User talk:TravKoolBreeze
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[edit] image deletion
I noticed you nominated for deletion on Images for Deleteion your own upload. In future, you are able to apply the {{db-author}} tag to the image page of uploads you have contributed. I have applied it to the Ron&fez image for you with an appropriate edit summary; it is always better to have the author apply the author speedy tag. If there are any questions, please drop me a note on my talk page.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 20:03, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Flagicons
I noticed your revert of my flagicon removals from Talk Radio (XM) and ESPN Xtra. I also noticed that you added flagicons to XM Sports Nation. I am not sure if you read the link instead of just the description of the header but if it is the former I suggest you read it, Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags)#Help the reader rather than decorate.
On these pages the flagicons were put into an infobox that is set up to put a wikilink of the country next to the flag. In these cases the flagicons added nothing of encyclopedic value because the name of the country is next to the flag and are merely being used as decoration therefore not being helpful to the reader. Aspects (talk) 14:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have read the link before changing the page. Once again, I state, who decides what helps and what does not. People may not know the country but understand where the flag represents what area of stated coverage. Therefore, there is an encyclopedic value to help the reader identity what is being covered. It is always better to give more clues to the reader than less to help them understand what is being discussed. TravKoolBreeze (talk) 16:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags)#Help the reader rather than decorate, "Adding a country's flag next to its name does not provide additional encyclopedic information..." As to who decides what helps and what does not help, the answer is all the editors on Wikipedia. The editors at Template:Infobox_Radio_Station determined that having just the flagicon in the infobox was not helpful enough so they set the field to added the name of the country with the flagicon. The editors at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags) decided that having a country's flagicon next to its name does not provide additional encyclopedic information. Unecyclopedic information has no place in Wikipedia, therefore in these cases the flagicons should be deleted. Aspects (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
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- Once again, I have noted that I have read the ruling. As for the editors on the Template:Infobox_Radio_Station, there was no discussion onto which if a flagicon was to used or not. Therefore, it is purely assumption that you have stated that they did not rule this in. Once again, from the eye of the user, a flag is more identifiable than the country name for people who are not of that native country or just learning about that country. Thus there ecyclopedic information to the topic. Unecyclopedic information is in the eye of the user and not a black and white defining topic, like many rulings on this site; therefore, will be judged on a case by case topic by me as such until this account is shut down.
- TravKoolBreeze (talk) 20:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
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- I did not state that the editors on Template:Infobox_Radio_Station discussed it or ruled on it. I said they determined it because the infobox has been set up to add the name of the country whenever the flagicon is added to the template. Because no one has yet discussed it in the talk page of the template, they agree with the way the infobox is set up. In these cases, the flagicons add nothing of encyclopedic value when placed next to the name of the country. I have a problem with you saying the articles should be "judged on a case by case topic" when Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags) states that decorative flagicons that add no encyclopedic value should not be used in any case and you seem to be adding them in all cases. Aspects (talk) 21:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
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- If they have set up the Template:Infobox_Radio_Station to add the name, then they must have no problem to keep the flag icon out and see it as helpful information.
- I'm sorry you have a problem with my statement, yet this is how I feel and have stated repeatedly that I do not agree with the ruling. I do not see adding the flag as decoration for I do not just add the flag anywhere within the article. Thus the statement of a case by case topic where it is used in only one place (infobox). My opinion will not change on whether or not they are encyclopedic for I am looking at the article in the mind of the user and more information is always helpful. (Majored in Information Techolnogy)
- TravKoolBreeze (talk) 05:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Invite
Jccort (talk) 19:58, 18 March 2008 (UTC)