Talk:Trapped in the Closet
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I'm posting here because no 'create new topic' option is given. Can I ask why the voice actors who have dubbed the opera for Spanish-speaking audiences are credited in the cast? I believe there is an existing Spanish Wikipedia. The information would be far more useful there. I was personally very confused when I first read the cast list. DanTheShrew (talk) 15:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the Spanish-speaking voice actors. This seems to be no place for them. It looks much nicer now. DanTheShrew (talk) 15:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The article claims that Kelly's endeavour is pioneering a new genre 'hip hopera'...the fusion of opera and hip hop predates Trapped in the Closet. Most notabley- Carmen the Hip Hopera..(released 2001) is listed on wikipedia and indicates that Kelly did not invent the approach...in fact the variety of musical styles and lyrical diversity of Carmen the Hip Hopera suggest that is is much more developed then kelly's admirable project. 83.105.63.235 14:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)Ben the impersonator
The article refers to the main character in the song as "R. Kelly." Although the song is sung in the first person, I would recommend changing this to "the singer" given that the song is not meant to be taken literally as an autobiographical experience. --Metropolitan90 02:59, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
"'"Trapped in the Closet"' is often called a rap opera despite the fact that it doesn't contain any rapping." Or: "Trapped in the Closet" is often called a rap opera despite the fact that it is in no way an opera whatsoever.
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[edit] Chapter 11
Isn't Chapter 11 where Bridget reveals that the Midget is her baby's Daddy? So, that would mean this has 13 Chapters?
- Yes, Chapter 11 is the one that ends "the midget is the baby's daddy..." and is the last episode before we jump back to Kathy, Rufus and Chuck. Don't know why someone keeps removing it. I haven't seen or heard a 13th chapter yet, though. The last one I'm aware of is Chapter 12 and ends with "that ho was me..." as Kathy explains to Gwen what happened with her and Sylvester. --Patrick T. Wynne 19:45, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
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- However, at the VMAs, availible at the link below, R. Kelly cuts out "the midget's the baby's daddy," instead using the DVD's Chapter 12. Chapter 13 (in DVD continuity) is Chapter 12 at the VMAs.
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- Then perhaps this should be mentioned somewhere in the article as an alternate presentation of the storyline. The DVD continuity, however, would appear to be the "canonical" Trapped in the Closet and should be the one described as it's R. Kelly's official release of his story. At least, that's my opinion. --Patrick T. Wynne 21:27, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
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===Chapter 13=== I think this might be smeone joke.. cause I've never heard of it
No... This is correct what has been stated about chapter 11 is true. and chapter 12 ends in "that ho was me" Noone yet has heard of chapter 13, but if you have please post it.. I have chapters 1-12 on dvd. Im up to date with evreything. So any questions ask me
Heres a link for chapter 13... Anyone know if this is supposed to be the last one? http://www.geocities.com/anthony_t_ogunware/Chapter13_Lyrics_TITC.html -corrine
[edit] One for the Ages
Did anyone else almost pee themselves at the falsetto "spatula" in Number 8? I, for one, think that the series will probably be infinite and consume the entirety of R. Kelly's remaining life on this earth...or maybe I'm just secretly wishing it to be true. --TheGrza 09:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Personally, I never pee myself unless I am engaged in an intimate act with a minor. ;-)
[edit] Questions
Please put your answers if you think you know them.
Q. So who are Tina and Roxanne?
A. They are prostitutes in the house that Rosy runs.
Q. How does the cop know Chuck and Rufus? A. Gwendolyn explains the chain of evets: a girl named Roxanna is a friend of hers who knows Chuck, who's cool with Rufus who likes Cathy - they both went to high school and Cathy introduced her to James. This will probably all be explained in some other big love circle like everything else.
Q. How do Rufus and Big Man know each other? A. I Have A Feeling Rufus And Big Man Know Eachother, From The Club Dixies Which Big Man Strips At. (Rufus & Chuck Are Gay) And If You Remember, Big Man Strips At The Club Called Dixies.. It Could Be A Gay Club?? Q. How will Gwen react to Cathy sleeping with Sylvester?
Q.Why are there 2 different cops in the video?
A. The first cop probably quit or was fired and they just changed. R. Kelly is really weird when he talks about it, so it must have been a firing or something.
Q. How else is Rosy the Nosy neighbor involved?
A. I think that Rosy the Nosy neighbor was put in there to humor the audience; with all the commotion, it was funny to just put in some random lady who seemed funny and had nothing to do with the already twisted story. A. I think that Rosy runs a prostitute house.
Q. I believe the singer Trey Songs did a verison of Chapter 1 that was online in which he played the husband waking up in another woman's bed, left to return to his wife, only to hear the cell phone go off and search for some one in his home, ending with opening the closet ect. does anyone else know about this? A.Trey Songz - “Open The Closet (Husband Version)”, mp3, 4.6mb, 3:20
Shortly after “Chapter 1″ appeared on the B-side to “Sex In The Kitchen,” Trey Songz answered back with the “Husband Version”, re-telling the story as Rufus. This track was released on Trey Songz/DJ Kool Kid mixtape titled the Prince of R&B.
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[edit] Mad TV Parody
Mad TV also made a parody R. Kelly's urban opera entitled "Trapped in the Cupboard." Here is a link to the Trapped in the Cupboard video: [1]
[edit] MTV compare
What was the name of the weird guy who introduced chapter 6 at the MTV Music Video awards? He looked like Eddie Vedder after decades of abusing drugs.
- That was Eric Roberts, older brother of Julia. --Patrick T. Wynne 04:53, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "Song" to "Video"
The article only ever explicitly refers to Trapped... as a song, yet clearly the article is about the video version. Can someone fix this please? Canonblack 11:24, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Obvious Homosexual References ignored
This article totally ignores the value of this peice for the gay community. It is about the author R. Kelly coming to terms with his true sexuality and he displays it by both staying in the closet as well emphasizing a promicious lifestyle with females in his life much like a ruse.
- Hahahahaha. If you can find any other sources which take this point of view, post them here. Now I'm interested. --Liface 00:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- NOT EVERYTHING WITH GAY PEOPLE IN IT HAS VALUE TO THE GAY COMMUNITY. Jeez. Thunderbunny 05:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I'll be frank: I have only heard of this because of the connection to the South Park episode. Skimming over the article, I have to ask this: Does R. Kelly's "Trapped in the Closet" have anything at all to do with homosexuality? If it does, the article does not mention it; if not, Kelly has missed his own pun. Where is the connection? — Mütze 01:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Where is chapter 13??
- it's not produced yet or not completely and it may end at 15
[edit] Genius?
This article states that "Kelly maintains that he is a genius for pioneering" hip-hopera. However, there is no source or citation for this statement. I would love to know if he truly claims this.
- Watch the commentary on the DVD. It is inherent in everything he says. I believe one of the quotes was "I think trapped in the closet is something that going to be around for a long time, even after I die." He constantly mentions how it's so new and exciting and going to inspire a lot of people. Kells is awesome... --Liface 19:01, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Comedic value
I removed stuff about the comedic value - although I agree with it, there was no sources cited for this. It's obvious that Trapped in the Closet is hilarious, but we don't even have any concrete evidence that Trapped in the Closet is "serious" and not comedic.
If you watch the behind the scenes video on youtube he talks about how some of it is supposed to be funny. I'm guessing he's referring to things like including a midget and having the neighbour holding a spatula.
- I agree, so I'm removing the claim that Trapped in the Closet is unintentional comedy.
- Whatever it is, British TV have torn into its comedy levels. To be honest I personally think hes deadly serious, but until we get a quote, I'm just gonna laugh 90.192.92.47 16:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cliffhanger lines
Do we really need these? First of all, I'm going to remove the "opening" cliffhanger lines because an opening line is not a cliffhanger. If no one objects I'm removing the rest too. --Liface 03:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes we REALLY need these. --Dee4leeds 11:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be explained that the cliffhanger in Chapter 9 is that there's no cliffhanger? He makes a big deal of it on the DVD commentary.Kgppra17 02:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Point of clarification: the lines are clearly "cliffhangas" not a "cliffhangers".DEFmagic (talk) 19:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Chart positions
The infobox gives a chart position for the single, but is this for just one chapter or what?
[edit] I found a Shakesploitation 2 reference...
I found a Shakesploitation 2 reference... in their original poster on their website
Antmusic 22:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clean up
I did some major clean up on this page. I took out all the broken links, cleaned up the actor and actress board and a few other things here and there. I think this article looks a hell of alot better now. Anyone agree? --FSX-2007 02:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chapters 13-22 Are Out
Just thought I'd let you guys know... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.229.64.24 (talk) 01:16, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pimp Luscious
Technically, Pimp Luscious first appeared in Chapter 18, yet it says he first appeared in 19.
- Well if you have a source, please fix it. Carl.bunderson (talk) 23:22, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Here is a link proving it. 1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.210.0.224 (talk) 19:53, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, then just use that as a reference and change it. Carl.bunderson (talk) 00:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- Here is a link proving it. 1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.210.0.224 (talk) 19:53, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
