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[edit] New section: terminology

I think most of the argument about what should and what should not be part of the transman identity, comes from the fact that there are two completely different identities (tanssexual man and transgender man) referred to as transman. Thus I tried to put a section that clarifies the differences between the two. Critics is welcome. Thru the night 18:12, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

External links to chat boards, blogs, and bookselling sites are normally not accepted on Wikipedia. Please read the external links policy (and perhaps the specific rules for medicine-related articles) before adding more external links. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I know that some people want blogs and chat boards and so forth to be included in this article. I realize that this information is useful to some people, such as transmen and their families. However, a link to purchase books at Amazon.com is not an encyclopedic link. It's a commercial link. Pretty much the only article in all of Wikipedia which should have an external link to Amazon.com is the article about the business itself. If you want to list the books, then please figure out how to list them without the links to Amazon.com.
Additionally, the personal webpage section is specifically prohibited under the external links policy. If you will look at item #12 under the "Links normally to be avoided" section, you'll see that it says, "Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority" should not be included except under exceptional circumstances. There is no way to revise a link to a blog or a personal web page that will make it quit being a blog or a personal web page. These are "helpful to patients" kinds of links, not "encyclopedic" links. Wikipedia only includes encyclopedic links. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed other articles sometimes have a "Further reading" section. Perhaps one of those could be created and the books could be listed there without needing to be a link. Neitherday (talk) 01:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I have no objection to a "Further reading" section for books. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

First of all I have seen many articles (including the featured ones) that use links to Amazon. You can see Amazon as a commercial site, or you can see it as a source of information: it tells you when and where the book was published. But my main point was not even that particular list: If the rules are so important to you, then imply them to existing content. I definitely object the situation when you just DELETE the content that doesn't follow some rule. Advice to review it, review it, or put it in discussion area with explanation what needs to be done about it. DO NOT delete it. And for personal pages section: though I agree that some of the pages can be removed, as they are personal ads more then anything else, others are very good, for instance "Successful TransMen: Links and Photos" and "Why Don't you Tell Them I'm a Boy] Article on raising a gender non-conforming child by Florence Dillon. A mother's experience raising a transgender (FTM) son." are not. Again: it's so easy to delete some content. It's much more difficult to edit it and make it valuable. Thru The Night (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redlinked transmen moved here

The following are the transmen from "List of notable transmen" who are redlinked; meaning that there is not an article written about them. There is a great opportunity here to create articles on these transmen if you can assert their notability. Joie de Vivre 04:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Alan Hart (1890-1962), physician
  • Louis Graydon Sullivan (1951-1991), writer, biographer and founder of FTM International [1]
  • Shannon Minter, attorney
  • River Allan, activist, public speaker, photographer, subject of documentary "CurrentTV's River"
  • Spencer Bergstadt, attorney
  • Kylar Broadus, attorney
  • Mauro Isaac Cabral, educator [2][3]
  • Aaron H. Devor, writer and educator [4]
  • Jacob Hale, philosopher [5]
  • David Harrison, actor, performer and playwright[6]
  • Michael M. Hernandez, writer and activist
  • Zander Keig, Speaker, Facilitator, Trainer [7]
  • Del Lagrace Volcano, performer and photographer [8] [9]
  • Blaine Paxton Hill, physics [10]
  • Martin Rawlings-Fein, editor, writer, filmmaker [11] and activist [12]
  • Mark Rees, activist
  • Stephen Thorne, police officer
  • Daniel Van Oosterwijck, attorney
  • Jacob Nash, activist, educator, In Re Nash (Ohio courts)
  • Raven Kaldera, shaman & writer [13]
  • Mark Angelo Cummings, speaker [14]
  • Gavin Katz-Athens Boys Choir, trans activist, poet, spoken word performer
  • Scott Turner Schoefield, trans activist, actor, author, performance artist
  • Nick Mardian, porn star
  • Patrick Boyle, humanitarian
  • Dhillon Khosla, musician, author of "Both Sides Now"

more red linked names Thru the night (talk) 04:03, 25 May 2008 (UTC)