Talk:Trams in Melbourne

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[edit] Size

A quick question: it says Melbourne has the third largest tram network in world but nowhere on wikipedia can i find which two cities have bigger networks. does anyone know which cities they are?

  • They are European. Moscow is the largest from memory, I've been trying to locate the second for some time. Melbourne is definitely the biggest in the Anglosphere. SM247My Talk 20:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
    • IINM, the second is Milan. 82.36.26.229 00:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

It is my impression that Milan is the biggest and Melbourne is next but if someone has some actual hard facts to deny or confirm this it would be nice.

The biggest tram systems in Poland are: Warsaw (470 km - 292 mi); Wrocław (258 km), Silesian_Interurbans (207 km, in 1970s - 235 km). I can't find any information on Moscow tram length. Tram system in Sankt Petersburg operated on 370 km of track, currently - 220 km. Information from various Wikipedia articles and sites on Polish trams. ----84.10.164.171 (talk) 16:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

It would be nice to have a picture of a W-class tram...

Hi Adam. Are you sure that move was wise?

We had a good little article about the W-class trams, now we have a disjointed mess. If you intend to do something with it, that's fine, but in its present state this entry would be better reverted. Better a competent article about a small subject than a poor one about a larger subject. Tannin

Once the bug that is preventing me editing is fixed, I will write a proper article about the whole tram system, of which the W-class is only a part, and not very meaningful to anyone who doesn't live in Melbourne. Adam 12:17, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Cool. Go to it! Tannin

Does this article really need the ", Australia" in its name? The main Melbourne article long ago changed from Melbourne, Australia; I think the city is significant enough to loose the suffix in page titles. Hypernovean 07:02, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Classes of Melbourne trams in service

I don't know exactly what they should be, but the dates in the table in this section are wrong. Philip J. Rayment 15:47, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

They're meant to be an indication of the 'era' the trams were introduced in - if you can fix them up, please do so. T.P.K. 08:30, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] A1 class

The article has picture of an A1 class tram, but the text has no reference to this class. Which is right?. -- Chris j wood 17:53, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Z class

There seems to me to be some differences in Z class trams, particularly door configuration (2 wide doors at front/middle vs 2 small (each end), 1 wide (central)). If anyone has more info on Z-class, it might be good to add it...? Natronomonas 05:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tram stop closures in CBD

Shouldn't it possibly be noted here about the stop closures in the CBD to make way for "more efficient" service with the Super-Stops? The other month their was actually a funeral for the stop on Collins and Exhibition street, I am searching for the program I had to upload onto this site, but I remember they placed the sign into a coffin and littered it with expired metcards then marched it to Spring Street to ask the Transport minister to bring it back to life... S.george 08:37, 20 July 2005 (UTC)


[edit] New Extended tram

At the risk of raising hackles.. I have noticed that there has been 'extended' lenght trams (at least one) introduced into the city recently.. (Its more than three sections) does anyone know about these.. would be a good additional note to make Abeorch 04:45, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Future tram designs

The Melba 2011 model is currently being designed as a State government plan to upgrade tram services. (text now scrubbed)

Actually, not. It is part of a design competition held by United Group Rail (Goninan)/Alstom for an internship at Alstom's design HQ in France, only open to University students, and designs such as Melba 2011 have little to do with what the Government/Yarra Trams will eventually purchase, apart from any feedback and design decisions, such as those in Melba 2011.

Unlike the privatisation process where tenderers specified what rollingstock they would like the government to order for them, AFAIK the next one is open to anyone - *rumoured* to have local content+build as a preference - apparently Bombardier is chasing it. --Mcbridematt 13:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gauge

I think this article would benefit from adding the gauge of the tram rail network, with a comment that it is different from melbourne's heavy rail network gauge. --NcLean 25 September 2006

Good idea. Do you want to add that? Or would you rather someone else add it? See WP:Bold if you are not sure. Philip J. Rayment
Speaking of gauges, I would like to know what these trams run on? Uzaiyaro 11:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
They're standard gauge (1435mm). It's in one of the tram pages... maybe not this one yet.Natronomonas 10:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
The Tram network is 4' 8.5" Standard Gauge while the trains are 5' 3" Victorian Broad Gauge.

[edit] Proposed policy on public transport

Please see User:Mangoe/Wikipedia_is_not_a_timetable for a proposed policy on public transport. Josh Parris#: 01:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Combino Plus ???

Any info on the new Seimens Combino Plus [1] trams running on the network ? These things rock. --Biatch 23:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it's only on loan as a trial: http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/government-to-buy-30-new-trains/2007/03/15/1173722655201.html Natronomonas 01:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)