Talk:Trampolining

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"Trampolines were originally used in ancient Rome to get soldiers fit for war. " This statement may belong in Trampoline but I have never seen any reference to it in any source. If you can verify it then it could be moved. Dabbler 15:18, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] External Links

I am concerned about the wholesale (and still somewhat arbitrary) removal of a number of External Links from this article by Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry. In particular a number of links providing worthy additional and authoritative material have been excluded since they are hosted by trampoline clubs. Is it not just possible that these sites are the very ones most likely to have some authority on the subject matter? I would appreciate independent review (according to WP:EL) as to the worth of each of the following sites being linked:

DaveK@BTC 20:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Dave, what I'm worried about is a potential conflict of interest. I kept the top link, as it seems to be a national site. I also kept the next one down, as it lists trampoline clubs. Link number three was removed because the content from it should be included in the Wikipedia article History of trampolining. Site number four repeats what should be at Trampolining terms. Site number five is a conflict of interest - you are "Dave Kingaby, Club Coach & webmaster" of Brentwood trampoline club, yes?
Site number six is nothing like a forum. From what I can see, it's a trampolining news site - it's a news site, and if you look at the team who created it, it's run by world champions.
Site number seven I removed because although it's a 'Beginners guide', upon reading it, it's an explanation of the moves and scoring involved, and thus falls into a Wikipedia article. The final site, however, was this on, which is not a forum, yet I removed regardless. I was wrong in doing this, although the site is already linked from the article and does not need a second link.
I was also at fault with the DMOZ link. It should be 'Trampoline and Tumbling' and not just 'Trampolining'. I've rectified this. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 19:44, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Apart from most of the links being very UK-centric I also see that the top site seems to be really a commercial venture advertising clothing etc. I don't think that it should be in Wikipedia and will remove it.Dabbler 20:23, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with that removal. I left it in, though, because it's got a few helpful tools, and apparently lets you access the world rankings. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 22:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

The site providing listings of UK sites is 'useful' although is not a national site but a club site providing a good service. The correct national site is that provided by British Gymnastics, our governing body, but the 'find-a-club' tool is not trampolining-friendly although accessible through BG's site at http://www.british-gymnastics.org/maps/map.php.

I have never hidden my interest and I do still believe that the subject matter provided by Jack Kelly (National Trampoline Squad Director in BG) on the BrentwoodTC site is worthy, challenging, as it does, a number of misguided coaching practices over the years where difficulty was pushed before form. Other sites are similarly useful, for example the beginners guide, since this is regularly updated as the sport changes rules etc... and avoids Wikipedia (and/or its contributors) unnecessarily duplicating material. DaveK@BTC 08:25, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed as non-encyclopedic

While the following is true, it doesn't really belong in an encyclopedia article on the sport but in a manual of some sort. You could also consider whether it might be more appropriate in some modified form in Trampoline.

[edit] Trampoline Safety

While trampolining is exciting, fun and good exercise it does have its dangers. Most countries have trampoline associations and, from these, codes of conduct can be obtained. However, for the beginner, the following basic rules and recommendations should be followed.

1. No one would install a swimming pool and not teach their children to swim. So find out where your local trampoline club is and join otherwise read up on the subject as a basic coach or go on a coach course.

2. Follow the advice of the trampoline manufacturer about siting and play.

3. Discourage having more than one person at a time on the trampoline.(Two consecutive impacts can cause the second person to be "kipped" that is impelled with nearly twice the power expected.)

4. Have people who are not on the trampoline stand round the trampoline ready to push fallers back on or lower them safely to the ground. These are called "spotters" who should be "spotting". Spotters are compulsary at ALL trampoline competitions.

5. Do not attempt "moves" that you have not been trained to do.

6. If you feel you or your child has real talent then join a club early. Self taught moves are invariably of very poor technique and will have to be relearned. Dabbler 15:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello Dabbler - I think there is an argument for some reference here to safety since the dangers are known and recordable facts and worthy of note to anybody researching trampolining. I do not disagree that actual safety guidelines could be referred to as an external or alternative wiki-reference. One possibility might be my own club's website www.brentwoodtc.org/safety.htm (where I have just noted a couple of broken links!!) DaveK@BTC 16:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't disagree that safety is important, but there is already a Trampoline Safety section in the other article Trampoline which deals more with the actual apparatus. Perhaps we could put in something here about spotters and mats, end decks and padding since they are actually used during competitions.Dabbler 17:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Related Sports

Noting Dabblers removal of reference to Bossaball & Slamball - I almost did the same but they are 'legitimate' sports that use trampolines, they are just not trampolining. Maybe we should have a 'related sports' section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveK@BTC (talk • contribs)

Both sports are referenced on Trampoline which is appropriate because they do use trampoline apparatus. They bear no resemblance to the sport of trampolining. Dabbler 11:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)