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Um...I think this page has been vandalized...who is Sam Clifford?

If you just define tramp it isn't enough for an encyclopedia. The wikipedia isn't a dictionary.

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Actually it's about hobos. Ellsworth

Tramp is a very common term in the UK, used both as a derogatory term and to describe homeless people. A certain "shabby" look is associated with it. It's also become, for some of the younger generations, a synonym for "slut" or "tart". -- Sam

The latter is also common in American English. Ellsworth 15:13, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bum archaic?

I would argue that 'bum' is not in archaic usage. I hear it somewhat regularly and use it myself.

to is officially mentioned in books of trades guilds. they were paid a daily rate to tramp from village to village or town seeking work within their guild. workers would seeki work tramping throughout france, germany and other european countries in this way.

[edit] Picture

The caption on the picture of a tramp reads "Another photo of the tramp I see day-to-day in Sheffield city centre." If you see him in the same place every day, is he a "tramp"?

66.135.159.226 04:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture removed

I have removed the picture from the article due to several concerns.

• It does not further illustrate the concept of 'tramp' to the reader.
• Since there is an offensive connotation to the word 'tramp', especially in the US, it is unkind to label the person in the picture as such. No pictures on pages like slut, etc...
• From this picture, it is not even clear that he IS a 'tramp'. He just looks like a bearded man, standing there, arms folded. He could be anyone. There is no indication from this picture that he even is homeless. For all we know, this could be a man who has a house and just doesn't keep up his appearance.

I think not only is this picture unsuitable for the article, but using any picture of a real person to illustrate a pejorative term is inappropriate. ~Eliz81^(C) 05:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with all of the above. It is inappropriate to make assumptions about what may simply be a man with a beard standing bundled up in cold weather. The term "tramp" is more far-reaching, has multiple meanings and definitions to many people, and a picture really cannot illustrate the concept in a way words cannot. To the anonymous IP that continues to re-add the image, please discuss it here and let us know why you are so interested in having this particular image in the article, perhaps there is something that we're unaware of. Thanks! Ariel♥Gold 03:59, 15 December 2007 (UTC)