Talk:Trịnh Sâm

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[edit] Removal of Sino-Vietnamese characters

The reason for not removing Hán tự (Sino-Vietnamese characters) from articles such as this is that that writing system, though originating in China, was in fact used by the Vietnamese people (along with Chữ Nôm, a special script developed by Vietnamese people to write Vietnamese literature) for well over one thousand years to record their own history and official documents, as well as to name their kings, places, and important books. It also allows one to easily find the meaning behind a person's or place name. They are used judiciously for this purpose in articles relating to the history of Vietnam. Wikipedia is a place where subjects should be treated thoroughly, and leaving out clarifying characters where they are appropriate (as has been explained to the editor repeatedly removing the characters no fewer than three previous times), solely because of anti-Chinese POV, does not help our readers in their pursuit of a complete treatment of these subjects. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia, but the continued blanking, as seen today (February 11, 2008) is not helpful.

An examination of the comparable articles at the Vietnamese Wikipedia, which are on the whole very well written and comprehensive, shows that they do include these characters, for the same reasons outlined above.

Note: the editor referred to such Sino-Vietnamese characters as "ugly" and "dirty" in this edit.

  • Quotes from the above post by user Jacques Nguyen:
It's like that no care about the dirty Han tu.
And the final answer is that we must must remove all ugly Chinese characters from Vietnamese articles.

Badagnani (talk) 23:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)