Talk:Towel Day

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[edit] Trivia warning

Added trivia warning. Please integrate trivia content into article. 24.15.182.247 08:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

How? What's in the trivia section is just trivial. Should I remove the whole section? --KOJV 13:16, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I've been asking around on the #wikipedia IRC channel and they all say Trivias don't belong on Wikipedia. Therefore the Trivia section will be removed. People interested in Towel Day trivia are most welcome to the Towel Day forums to post, share and discuss towel trivials.

[edit] Image

More of a "fair warning" than anything else. The current Image:Towelday_Towel.jpg is sourced as "(Uploaded from the en.wikipedia: en:Image:Towelday.jpg, there Uploaded by en:User:Bazillus on 28 September 2005 under GFDL.[sic]"

So it seems it's a copy of another image that was deleted from wikipedia for failing GFDL. A copy of a failed image is a failed image. Mdbrownmsw 19:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

You're confusing Towelday.gif for Towelday.jpg.
The picture that failed GFDL was the Towel Day animated GIF banner from the Towel Day site.
--KOJV (talk) 22:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origin

  1. The extended quote is far too long (roughly 1/2 the article). Yeah, maybe a quote from the posting, but the whole thing?
  2. The link to the source is cobwebbed. As it was a link to a "reprint" (?), a wayback link seems "off" to me. Does "anyone" have the (now dead) URL for the original posting so we can put a wayback to the original up?
  3. "[reprinted here with permission]" Er, I guess that applied to the "reprint"? If it was meant to be permission for wikipedia, we don't need it (for fair use)/can't use it (any other circumstance) for text.

Mdbrownmsw 20:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

  1. The quote used to be like a small paragraph of the article, but since Wikipedia standards are so hard to follow we had to cut down the article to a microscopic part of it's original size...
  2. What's a wayback? The original post doesn't exist anymore so it can't be linked back to. Neither does the "original copy". I'll cut down the quote though.
  3. Yeah, just applied to the reprint. I'm not the one who put the quote in here to begin with, but I'm fairly sure.

--KOJV (talk) 23:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alternative dates

This whole section is unsourced. (Prempt: KOJV's page is not a wp:rs.) Mdbrownmsw 20:34, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Thus will be removed (the whole section, aye) in my next revision.
--KOJV (talk) 23:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Towel

Ugh. I just yanked this: "People ask Why a towel? and the answer is found in the third chapter of the first book. This and any further questions are answered at the Towel Day website where there also is a forum and a wiki for trivial discussions and additions."

Now that was the kind of thing the {{tone}} tag was up for. "People ask, 'Why a towel?'" They also ask, "Why is my encyclopedia using this lighthearted approach? "This and further questions..." are not answered here. Psych! Gotcha. Oh, and there's a forum there (please join!) where you can add anything that doesn't belong <str>here</str> in an encyclopedia.

Also, the "answer" to that question on kojv.net is essentially the synthesis yanked from this article earlier, but on another page.

Yeah, it'd be great if we had a reliable source that explained the towel bit. We don't. Mdbrownmsw 20:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

How is The Hitch-Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy for a reliable source? The explanation for Why a towel? on KOJV.NET is actually just a quote from the novel - not anything yanked from Wikipedia...
--KOJV (talk) 23:08, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyrighted excerpt

The quotation from chapter three of HGTTG may be an "excessively long copyrighted excerpt" and may not satisfy the requirements of WP:FAIR. Walter Siegmund (talk) 11:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. Look up the definition of excessive and you will notice it's not excessive. The article only uses a mere two paragraphs, short ones too, compared to approx. 300 pages of text the novel has. It's less than 0,1% of the copyrighted work and thus I don't think excessive is the right word for it, I'd rather say it's exactly what WP:FAIR#Text specifies... --SoWhy Talk 11:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)