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Contents 1 Disadvantages 2 Basic topics, Wikitravel 3 First Tourist 4 missing word 5 Articles relating to Tourism 6 intro 7 Opening paragraphs 8 Further updates needed 9 Hi, what about dark tourism? 10 Effect of globalization 11 Butler's tourism life cycle model 12 Tourism Guide/ Guide Book/ Travel Guide 13 Origin of sun-and-beach tourism 14 The Definitions 15 Chapter 3 (History) 16 Overly British 17 Criticism of tourism? 18 Football tourism in South Africa 19 Tourism Industry notes in Wikiversity 20 Please create more "Wildlife of ....." articles for all countries. 21 Invitation for Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India & Conservation

Disadvantages

I'd like to see more info on the downside of a local government promoting a tourist economy over several decades. Things like mass migration, tax increases, deforestation, sprawl, economic incentive abuse, etc.

==Contribution== goby

Acknowledgement: the majority of this article as at Feb 25, 2002 was contributed by Dr. Andrew Rossiter of the Université de Besançon - France.

Basic topics, Wikitravel

What are our priorities for writing in this area? To help develop a list of the most basic topics about tourism, please see tourism basic topics.

Those writing the tourism articles may be interested in http://www.wikitravel.org/ --Jiang

First Tourist

Was King George III really the first tourist? Just because he took trips to Weymouth when in poor health? Surely somebody must have done the same before the 18th century. Unless somebody can provide some sort of proof of this "widely acknowledged" fact, I'm going to erase it.

Peregrine981 23:13, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

George may not have been the first tourist, but is responsible for the rise in popularity of tourism. --Steinsky 02:04, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps we could include an explanation of why George III's trips to Weymouth led to a rise in popularity for tourism. Does this apply only to the British or is it a more wide spread European phenomenon? --Peregrine981 19:26, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

missing word

Shouldn't we add the word recreational into the first sentence: "to include recreational any travel outside of one's normal working or living area, from daytrips to overseas holidays" otherwise it reads so as to include business travel, which I do not think is ever included in tourism? --BozMo|talk 14:43, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Actually, business tourism has been identifed as a niche market deserving of further development by the Australian Government who regularly collect statistics on the growth of the sector.210.193.176.115 01:27, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Articles relating to Tourism

Does anyone know of a place where I might find international stats on tourism? I'm particularly hoping to find out how much the international market is worth, and which countries contribute the most, if such information is available (my Googling and wiki searching had been for naught). JKnight 23:30, Jun 26, 2004 (UTC)

Yes - if you want to pay for it! Organisations such as IPK International or Global Insight can provide the data. 80.43.102.213 20:55, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

intro

"Most people confuse Tourism with Travel."

The article should not start like that. --Joy [shallot] 03:23, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

It's still not satisfactory, and I'm sure it was better before. Has some deletion vandalism slipped through the net? I would propose this introduction:

"Tourism can be defined as travel for recreation."

Any better ideas? --Steinsky 12:56, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Yes.... Tourism can be defined as travel for leisure or business. In today's world, business tourism is the most profitable source of tourism revenue, as business tourists spend considerably more per head than leisure tourists. Business tourism is defined as travel for business purposes - congresses, trade fairs, conventions or just meetings in a distant location. Andrew Rossiter - original contributor of this article.

I reckon that Business tourism is NOT just defined as travel for business purposes - congresses, trade fairs, conventions or just meetings in a distant location. If the person just does the business stuff while there then the person has done zero recreation and I don't think that would then be business tourism. More typically a business person making a trip to an exciting new location will try and fit in a dinner out - or a quick visit to a local attraction during the boring afternoon session - or a swim between meetings. Its only if the business person fits in the recrational activities that they are participating in business tourism. The point is that these people decided to make the trip for over 50% business reasons - but do add in some tourist and recreational experiences to the overall trip. A common example is people who add on a weeks holiday after a conference - the flight to the place was triggered by the business need - but the person also ends up being a tourist. If they don't do anything but the business stuff - then it shouldn't be counted as business tourism. Another example perhaps is the partners programs for many conferences - the main delegates go to sessions - while partners have a program of tourist experiences prepared for them. Conference organisers know that if the wifes are happy - they will get more delegates. 203.3.64.1 22:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Can't seem to get its name, but what do you call the group of people who sell information about tour destination. See this article, if i sound like an idiot [1]

Opening paragraphs

The term tourism is sometimes used pejoratively, implying a shallow interest in the societies and natural wonders that the tourist visits. As such it is used as a pejorative term about heterosexuals who visit gay bars to "watch the natives" and "experience the culture" without integrating themselves into it (unlike a Dyke Tyke), or bisexuals, typically already in a heterosexual relationship, who frequent gay bars for the purpose of procuring one-off gay sex (both terms are used almost exclusively by the gay community).

Does this seem a little esoteric (especially for the top of the page), or is it just me? --Quercus 20:11, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Further updates needed

I noticed nothing in here on The War on Tourism or Osama bin Travelocity.

Hi, what about dark tourism?

Hi, I'm curious-- why is there no mention of dark tourism? thanks!

Effect of globalization

What effect does globalization have on tourism industry? I think that for answering this question we need the year from which we may say that globalization started. Kindly update me if anyone has any ideas about the topic. I doing some search on the same and will post my views as soon as i get through. bingo

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Butler's tourism life cycle model

shouldn't this model be placed inside this article as well?

Tourism Guide/ Guide Book/ Travel Guide

This article does nothing for the industry of travel guide/guide book, and to subsume the series into 'consumer guides' is misleading. There is a need for a separate article on the subject, as this tourism article does not even give the industry a sufficient coverage.vcxlor 11:18, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Origin of sun-and-beach tourism

Why did sun-and-beach holidays become popular in the first place? Has anyone got any links or citations? GCarty 12:40, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

The Definitions

I have added some definitions relating to Tourism. It'll make things a little clear.Merishi 07:59, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Chapter 3 (History)

I find this chapter a bit British-centered. What about other countries?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.221.92.82 (talk • contribs) .

Overly British

The main countries mentioned by an overly large extent are England and France, which seems overly biased

I agree; much more is needed, for example, on the rise of German tourism after WWII...the Germans are currently the world's most prevalent tourists. Cjs2111 00:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Criticism of tourism?

I suggest the possibility of a Criticism of Tourism section. Tourists are widely considered to be boorish and ill mannered, or to otherwise behave in opposition to local customs and values, and tourism is frequently the subject of mixed emotions by locals for a variety of reasons. --Xyzzyplugh 11:35, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The addition of a section perhaps devoted to the ethics of tourism, in terms of social and envrionmental ramifications would produce a more complete article. Keeping NPOV would be more challenging, yet still possible.

Football tourism in South Africa

Breaching on the subject of the 2010 Football World Cup, will South Africa be ready? It is speculated that the major infracture changes needed will cause the most hiccups. How will South Africa cope with the added influx of football tourists over such a short period of time. http://www.bougainvillas.co.uk 11:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC) RenoBuild —Preceding unsigned comment added by Renobuild (talk • contribs)

Please do not add in-line advertising links. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. → friedfish 12:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Tourism Industry notes in Wikiversity

Hello everyone, I managed to get the school where I work to test out Wikiversity and load some of their resources. Here are their handouts stripped from their MSWord format and loaded as text into a Wikiversity page called Tourism Industry. After doing it, I realised that it would probably be better suited as a wikibook.. I searched "tourism industry" in wikipedia and it redirected to this page? I guess that's fare enough, but I'd like to see some of the content we have loaded into Wikiversity, be covered in this wikipedia article. What do others think? --Leighblackall 01:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Please create more "Wildlife of ....." articles for all countries.

.... and kindly contribute to these new articles when you get time, and request others too.

See Wildlife of India for reference.

Thanks

Atulsnischal 18:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Invitation for Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India & Conservation

If you are interested in Environment, Wildlife, Conservation and Nature etc. please join in to contribute, even starting off with making new stub class articles will be a great contribution.

Sincerely

Atulsnischal 16:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

We need senior administrators or people who are long in Wikipedia to help us with the templates and for other further helps. Details can be seen in its talk page. IT's urgent. We want this wkiproject to be added to the exsisting WP:IND banner. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 05:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

oh yeah 3000miles