Talk:Torquay

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Torquay was a good article, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Delisted version: March 25, 2006


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[edit] help for another article

I need a reference for something, I can't find anything about this elsewhere so its possible its a misunderstanding, anyway... Theres a reference on a celtic language article about a carving ina a celtic tongue in a butchers in torquay. Now i've never heard of this before and If it is true it could be quite interesting... However it could be a)a misunderstanding b)modern or even just made up somewhere. Does anyone know where this is and any reliable references to it or pictures? cheers 131.111.8.99


[edit] NPOV?

Description of Adrian Sanders as "well loved" is POV - attitudes towards him are mixed.

[edit] Elected Mayor

Recent elections of Nick Bye as directly-elected Mayor needs to be included; I can put this and correct NPOV but not right now - no time! Mike

[edit] William III

William III (also known as William of Orange) landed at Brixham in Torbay on 5 November 1688 before marching to London, on his way to gaining control of the country in the "Glorious Revolution".

This really belongs in the article on Brixham (and/or that on Torbay), since it does not directly involve Torquay itself. -- Picapica 19:54, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Torqunion

Adjective used to describe natives or inhabitants of Torquay --Anonymous

I've only heard the term Torquin used for that purpose. It also happens to be the name of the official paper of Torquay Boys' Grammar School --Safalra 15:48, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delisted GA

Hi. I have removed this article from the Wikipedia:Good article listing due to the following:

  • No references. One of the GA criteria is that a reference section must be provided. Inline citations are preferred but not required. When this issue has been addressed, please feel free to re-nominate. Thanks! Air.dance 04:06, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Additionally, the history section needs to be split to History of Torquay and reduced to a 4-6 paragraph summary with no subheadings. Joe D (t) 18:39, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
This article could benefit from some general editing and pruning. It is becoming too long and disjointed.--Ianmacm 19:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I've shortened the history section to six paragraphs on the themes of early Torquay, the 19th century, WW1, WW2, the 1948 Olympics, and post 1948. Now I just need to track down sources... --Safalra 19:31, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accessing Census data

Finding Census data for Torquay can be a little tricky as it is usually listed, with Paignton and Brixham, as Torbay. To find Torquay specific data:

  1. Go to http://www.nomisweb.co.uk/
  2. Click 'Wizard Query' (middle of page)
  3. Click '2001 census - census area statistics (2001)'
  4. Select 'Some' next to 'urban area subdivisions'
  5. Select 'South West' under 'urban area subdivisions'
  6. Check the box next to 'Torbay - Torquay'
  7. Click 'next'
  8. Select a table (unfortunately many are poorly named - for example, headline employment figures come under 'economic activity', rather than in any of three tables with 'employment' in the title)
  9. Click 'next'
  10. Check the boxes you want
  11. Click 'next'
  12. Select a format and download the data you want
  13. Click 'finish'

--Safalra 18:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eponymous Royal Navy ships

I see no reason for the section Eponymous Royal Navy ships. Only one ship is actually called HMS Torquay (as opposed to HMS Torbay), and its only relation to Torquay is its name. I think it would be better replaced with a disambiguation link ('for the ship, see HMS Torquay') at the top of the article. I don't want to remove content without a second opinion, though. --Safalra 18:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Paignton - inextricably linked?

There is still a gap between Torquay and Paignton, running down through Scadson Plantation, Ten Acre Brake and Hollicombe, where there are no buildings. Now that the gasworks have gone, the two towns are visibly seperate. Totnesmartin 20:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Good point. I've changed the introduction to describe the two towns as 'adjoining' (as there's less than 50m between the two) rather than 'inextricably linked'. --Safalra 14:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Singer

"Isaac Merritt Singer and his family held a strong presence in the area, especially during the late 19th century, building Oldway Mansion in nearby Paignton (partially in the style of the Palace of Versailles)." Is this really needed in this article? It belongs in the Paignton article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birddrz (talk • contribs) 20:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Deliniations of Torquay

I Noticed this map (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Map-of-torquay.png) in the article being used for the transport links of the town and thought it'd be a decent map for superimposing the various parts of Torquay onto it, i.e Wellswood, Ellacombe, Babbacombe, Upton, Hele, Shiphay, Cockington, Plainmoor, Saint Marychurch (and any others I may have missed), I'm a local and I don't even have a clue about their actual boundaries and have never found a map detailing them.

If anyone did and could create a map showing it, it'd make a very nice addition to the article with a bit of flavour text about the different parts of Torquay. Ajp100688 21:14, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

Some of the references look hideous. They display the full URL, which looks appalling when using reflist2 as the first column appears over the second. The JPStalk to me 18:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Better late than never! I've just fixed the web citations using WP:CITE. Several had changed since 2006, and a couple were apparently dead (noted as such in the refs), but I've left them in case it's a temporary blip.  —SMALLJIM  22:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Culture

Is FHM and Zoo really culture? RedRabbit1983 14:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] World War II History

I removed part of the Histry section concering World War II that stated "over a quarter" of the US 4th Infantry Division which departed Torquay "never returned." This implies they died. In reality, only 700 of the 32,000 that landed at Utah Beach were "casualties" which includes deaths and listed injuries. That's <3% casualties, not >25%. Without me even going into the argument that approxamitely 75% of "casualties" are usually the injured (although it depends on the time period and method of counting casualties) - placing the actual "never return"/deaths at <1%. Need I say more? 68.254.173.30 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)