Talk:Torban

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[edit] Bass strings

The article says:

It differed from the torban by the absence of the bass strings, and was closely related in its organology to central European Mandora and Pandora (see Lute).

Okay, every bandura I've seen has had bass strings, so I'm confused.

I'm guessing I must be familiar with only the modern chromatic concert bandura, then? And the bandura referred to in this article is one of the older (Starovtitska) ones? Did the old ones lack bass strings? The bandura article claims the evolution of the bandura is explained here, but it isn't. Can an expert help me out, and fix one article or the other? Thanks! Corvi 05:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

The problem is that bandurists have a foggy idea as to their own instrument organology.
In a nut-shell: Bandura and kobza is the same thing until ca. 1800. "Bass strings" are simply the long ones on the neck, still frettable even later.
Gusli (unfrettable) assume the bandura shape around this time and this becomes "starosvitska" (20th century coinage) bandura. Large diatonic instruments are developed ca. 1900, and chromatic after 1930.
Galassi 01:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)