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[edit] waziristan

mislim da bi bilo najbolje opsadu spomenuti u recimo backgroundu.

Inače razmišljam da sve te Waziristan conflict-e spojimo u jedan članak--TheFEARgod (Ч) 10:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm to treba videti u izvorima. Inače moje lično mišljenje jeste da su opsada đamije, konflikt u Vaziristanu i nasilje u Karačiju (ima i članak) sve deo jednog opšteg "anti-mušarafskog" filinga u Pakistanu koji bi mogao da preraste u građanski rat. Za sad bi ih držao odvojeno, ali ako se moje slutnje obistine, događaji će morati da se pominju POVEZANO. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:44, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kutijica

hmm napiši taj tvoj stav u diskusiju. Ja bi sad da ostane ovaj izgled ali da se nekako podesi da bude sa strane kao onaj stari. Pridružiću se u diskusiji --TheFEARgod (Ч) 00:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

daj molim te pogle idiotizam na dnu stranice Operation Sledgehammer (2007), previše šablona. Ima još takvih str. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 00:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
pa dobro, napravi. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 17:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] july9 2007 sb

Hey - re july 9/10 I'm afraid you are wrong and I won't let this one go. First of all your dates are incorrect: both antiwar (i.e. iraqslogger) and MNF state that the bombing occured on MONDAY 9 JULY (read the articles more carefully) - there is never any suggestion of an attack on 10 June.

Also as far as the casualty discrepancy is concerned, I already explained this. Different news agencies will invariably provide different figures and this is what's happened here. MNF citing US military sources reported seven dead, whereas as Iraqslogger (a much less reliable source) citing WNA reported one dead.

The simple fact is that on the SAME day, in the SAME district of Baghdad we have two separate reports of the SAME suicide bombing incident. The similarities are too great for us to assume it was not one and the same incident, and unless you can find a report suggesting two separate bombings occured, we cannot count it as two.

(Think about it - in terms of media reports if there HAD been a double suicide bombing, wouldn't that have justified greater media attention? Why would the various news agencies under-report a newsworthy item like that? Just use your common sense) Barflyuk 03:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iraq operations

There are currently 3 Different lists of Iraq Operations; Iraqi coalition counter-insurgency operations(which is also somewhat POV), a chonological list and an alphabetical list. I have added a lot of operations to the alphabetical listing and have been updating it faithfully but I haven't updated the counter insurgency or the Chonological listing much. Before I do I recommend that we consider other methods. I figured out how to add a column sort function and added it to the Alphabetical listing. I recommend the other 2 articles be merged into the alphabetical listing and then we can rename the alphabetical listing to something more appropriate like Iraq Military Operations since 2003 perhaps. I added a blurb on the discussion page and recommended the merge for the chronological list and the counter insurgency operations page. You seem to do a lot with the Iraq war articles what do you think? --Kumioko 15:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Waziristan

Nije baš da se slažem trenutno, ali neću ništa revertovati :) Ajde molim te mi pomozi da napravimo od svih Waziristan conflict-a jedan članak, to je isti konflikt sa manjim prekidima! I Sri Lanka Civil War je imao prekid od 5 god pa opet je to jedan konflikt. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 00:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Sutra. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 00:38, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
vidi Waziristan War --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:03, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Dobro si napravio ipak sa povezivanjem događaja. BBC kaže: The assault (on the mosque) prompted pro-Taleban rebels along the border with Afghanistan to scrap a controversial 10-month-old peace agreement with the government. [1]

Ako možeš dio sa listom terorističkih napada (pazi, napad na vojnike nije baš teroristički!) nekako spojiti sa već postojećim člankom Terrorism in Pakistan, koji se bavi time. Također, kako je ovaj zadnji konflikt ništa doli nastavak prethodnih, trebalo bi ga eliminirati, tj. spojiti u glavni. Glavni ne bi trebao imati timeline-stil teksta tipa:

On July 12...

On July 17...

ali da ne bi izgubili te informacije dobro bi bilo da napravimo članak 2007 timeline of the Waziristan War ili sl. pozdrav, --TheFEARgod (Ч) 17:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Otkriće

A ti si 87.116.171.227! Vidim već 2 mjeseca taj IP prati članke koje radiš ti (i ja neke) ali nikako da povežem. Skoro sam ušao u edit conflict s tobom par puta (nekako sam imao osjećaj više razine nad običnim anonimnim korisnikom). Pardon, --TheFEARgod (Ч) 00:45, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of insurgents killed in Iraq

An article that you have been involved in editing, List of insurgents killed in Iraq, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of insurgents killed in Iraq. Thank you. D4g0thur 09:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] july9/10 #2

Hey - re july9/10 I still don't want that attack duplicated. I don't accept your evidence that a different attack occured in the evening, because MNF is a specialist military source for news (not a public news agency) and so they will frequently announce attacks belatedly (in this instance they announced it the day after, which also accounts for their higher death toll as they had extra time to collect precise details). Furthermore, I have already accounted for the casualty discrepancies; and indeed when I checked antiwar it did not list two separate attacks. So let's please leave it as a single attack until any evidence arrives to the contray.

NB have you noticed it's been four days without a suicide bombing? That's very rare nowadays. Hope nothing big is in the offing. Barflyuk 06:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Iraq War

Why does the image have to stay? There is already someone on the template discussion page that wants the infobox to look horizontal like other infoboxes. I personally think it wastes too much space especially on the Iraq War article. If it's a matter of going around and altering every article that has the template, it's not a problem. And we can just as well put the picture on the horizontal infobox if you insist that it just has to stay. Please discuss this issue. -- VegitaU 06:12, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] July SB count

Hey re your comment...

>I am not counting the number of attacks but the number of bombers

...that runs contrary to what we already agreed. Regarding the 2003/4 attacks we already agreed that we should focus only on the number of separate suicide bombing incidents, rather than the number of bombers involved. If a vehicle detonates with three people on board, it is still just a single suicide bombing. Also as far as the toll is concerned we can't reasonably count attacks where no detonation occurred! For all we know the would-be suicide bomber had second thoughts and so deliberately handed himself into police custody. Therefore counting such incidents as actual bombings is totally misrepresentative.

Just remember... we want this to be an accurate compendium of the number of ACTUAL SUICIDE BOMBINGS that Iraq has endured. So if we either inflate the number of attacks, or if we show a tendency to assuming attacks involved suicide elements when the evidence doesn't support that; then all we are doing is shooting ourselves in the foot. It makes our compendium worthless.

As of 1am GMT on 30 July 2007 I count exactly 38 suicide bombings in the month of July. Barflyuk 04:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need Your Opinion

Hi Top Gun, I noticed that your quite active with ragards to articles relating to the Vietnam War, so I need your opinion on a historical matter. In 1967 the Australian army launched Operation Bribie with the objective of stopping the Viet Cong from withdrawing from the battlefield following an attack, but they failed to do so. Despite that failure the Australian army claimed victory, and as usual, the Viet Cong also claimed victory. So I wandering if you could read the sources from the links below and tell me who you believe to have been victorious? Thank you for your help.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~marshalle/6RAR/6RAR5.html http://www.hotkey.net.au/~marshalle/6RAR/Bribie2.html Canpark 07:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your reply bro;)Here is the article on Operation Bribie, still have work to do. Help anyway you can, thanks again;) Canpark 11:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iraq Operations

That's fine I was already in the process of doing that. I created Separate tables for each year under the Chronological page and I was in the process of copying them over. If you know a faster way that's great. I also believe that there will come a point where we may want to split them of into separate pages if not by year by something else and then link them back to the Chronological page. With the number of operations and the fact the tables take up more space and I still have A lot more operations to add prior to 2007 alone and better explanations of the operational changes over time this page will hit critical mass soon. We also need to eliminate the other Insurgency operations page that is out there.--Kumioko 20:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

No but you can delete the Iraqi coalition counter-insurgency operationsarticle. That information has already been incorporated. Question, when you do a merge, does it actually merge the article or just delete one? Also, What do you recommend we do with the operations that I haven't verfied the dates of yet. I know the operations exist and I have references but there are no dates.--Kumioko 00:23, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I copied what I needed into a word doc so you can merge the article. I will update the other article over the next few days as I get the time.--Kumioko 01:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Casualties

Just curious, what were the additions that you made from? I added things from the Iraq War, Philippines, Afghanistan, Somalia, Waziristan, Saudi Arabia, and 2006 Lebanon. ~Rangeley (talk) 13:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

The problem here is that the "War on Terror" article is about a specific, US-led campaign. It is not about a conflict, per se, but instead can be best viewed as a super-operation. Just like operations can include sub operations, operations themselves can be included within a campaign. Russia certainly has played a part in the US-led campaign, but the Chechnyan war predates it - and therefore is not, organizationally, part of the campaign. Only things specifically started or designated as parts of the US-led campaign are parts of it.
The other template seems to include terrorist attacks from around the world, but this article does not. But for this reason, nations such as Russia or India or even Indonesia cannot be viewed as major enough to include on the main page (though they can be included on the seperate page for combatants.) As to the PKK, they are not a major combatant either. ~Rangeley (talk) 13:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Even so, Indonesia is a minor combatant. Being attacked a lot doesnt mean they are participating to a large degree in one of the operations ongoing, which they are not. ~Rangeley (talk) 13:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Even if there is a larger conflict, this article deals specifically with the US-led campaign, which would be a component of the conflict.
And while Chechen rebel groups may be designated terror groups, that does not automatically make them a combatant in this campaign. Until a major operation is waged against them that is organizationally part of the US-led campaign, we cannot consider them a target of this campaign. And given the relationship between Russia and the United States, this seems very unlikely to occur anytime soon, given that the chechen rebels are pretty much confined to within Russia. ~Rangeley (talk) 13:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Pazi, maknuo sam UNIFIL i Ugandu (AMISOM) iz spiska žrtava rata protiv terorizma jer oni ne učestvuju u operacijama, tj. oni su stacionirani samo zbog sprečavanja sukoba (UNIFIL zbog Libana i Izraela a AMISOM zbog različitih plemena) --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
TopGun, please stop reverting the article without participating in discussion. ~Rangeley (talk) 00:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
ali u Afganistanu i Iraku učestvuju u operacijama a UNIFIL u Libanu sjedi od 1978. + UN ne učestvije u ratu protiv terorizma kao što je to napravio u Korejskom i Zaljevskom ratu. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:00, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iraqi coalition counter-insurgency operations

I see that you merged the articles as we discussed. Could you also please merge the Iraqi coalition counter-insurgency operations article.--Kumioko 15:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] july count (please read in full)

Hi - further to my previous message your July count is still incorrect. You count 47 whereas I count 39; and I believe the discrepancy is due to the following dates. I have put in brackets the reasons why you may have miscounted these incidents...

Date: number of attacks
1st: 3 (ramadi attack likely duplicated therefore should only be counted once)
6th: 2 (ramadi detonation failed therefore is not an actual suicide bombing, just an attempted one)
7th: 2 (zayuna attack likely duplicated therefore should only be counted once)
8th: 3 (hilla attack only involves ONE single bomber - there is no indication that the three accomplices intended to commit suicide during the attack, they were only killed as the explosives that the lone bomber was wearing detonated prematurely)
22nd: 1 (taji vehicle bomb had two attackers on board, but still that counts as just one suicide bombing - there was only one VBIED)

Please don't amend the count again. My above count for July is in line with our previous discussions regarding duplicate attacks, failed attacks, and multiple-person attacks; and having counted it a number of time I am 100% certain that the correct figure is 39.

--Barflyuk 15:48, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

PS Your insistence on the history page that you are counting 'the number of attackers' is completely contrary to what we have already agreed on. Remember this is a count of ACTUAL suicide bombings. A suicide bombing must involve a human element and an explosive element. You are counting, for example, the 8th July attack as being a quadruple suicide bombing, which is INSANE. Such a count is totally misleading, and it massively devalues the merit of our page. Seriously dude just think about it logically! And stop trying to artifically inflate the number of attacks! (For Christ's sake there's enough already isn't there?!)

If you change the count again and make other counts like it I will change them back, as I'm sorry but we already agreed on policy about this.

[edit] Iraq War Operations

I have a question regarding adding military operations to Wikipedia. I was previously under the impression that all named Military operations should be added but THeFEARGOD keeps putting notibility tags on the pages. I was wondering if you could add some clarification to what qualifies an operation to be added. Based on the notibility tag manu of the operations already on wikipedia (and other articles for that matter) don't meet the qualifications. Thanks in advance.--Kumioko 13:54, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Casualty Counts

I was just wondering but where do you get the casualty count updates so quickly?--Kumioko 20:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject:Terrorism

Greetings,

I was hoping I could get some input from you, about the proposed mergerof Wikipedia:WikiProject Terrorism and counter-terrorism with Wikiproject:Terrorism. It seems there's a lot of overlap between the two projects, and if we spent a few days merging the lists of articles, sharing ideas and collaborating on improving the same articles which both projects are focused on improving...we could really make some headway. Whether you're in favour, or against, the idea of a merger - I'd appreciate some feedback regardless. Much thanks. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 21:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] lal masjid

if you don't know then please don't edit.Waziristan has noting to do with lal masjid except that some of it's students were from that area.it was totally separate affair.User talk:Yousaf465 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yousaf465 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] lal masjid

if you don't know then please don't edit.Waziristan has noting to do with lal masjid except that some of it's students were from that area.it was totally separate affair.who said to you they fought under orders from warizatain or they were mostly from that area.GoP doesn't say that it's a part of that campaign how you can say that. It's was all Islamabad affair as the lal masjid demands was to reconstruct the mosques which GoP has demolished.so what this has to do with Wazrisatain. User talk:Yousaf465

[edit] Fatah al-Islam

Ej, ti si dodao zrtve Fatah al-Islama kako kaze Elias Mur ministar odbrane. Stavi i onu drugu brojku, koja je bila prije. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Haditha

Hello , as i remeber CBS or ABC News mentioned that after the IED that destroyed the vehicle , the Marines launched full attack on the city that last 3 days and killed 36 insurgents ...i think you should add this to the Battle page .--Jonybond 10:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] War on Terrorism casualties

Good work! Ja bi uveo nekakvu tabelu kao i u Casualties of the 2006 Lebanon War --TheFEARgod (Ч) 22:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A question about image Image:Baghdad-bombings.jpg

The Image:Baghdad-bombings.jpg has been removed from the article Operation Law and order twice already and it had been in the article for the previous five months. It is stated that the imahe has been removed because there is no soruce information. But there is. I have stated that the source of the image was antiwar.com but they have removed the image from their site. That is not my fault. The source is still antiwar.com so how can we resolve this. The imga has to stick because it represents an important event during Operation Law and order. And there is no other image of the event OR free equivalent. Please send me a reply. Thank you. Top Gun —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.116.174.132 (talk) 03:10, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

If you can find out who the photographer or copyright holder is, and can explain why the image (not the subject of the image, the image itself) is historically significant, then the image can be kept. Otherwise, it needs to be deleted. --Carnildo 03:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sri Lanka

Odluicno, procitati cu ih sve! Dodaj Operation Definite Victory tj. pogledaj ima li jos bitaka (ja sam bio napravio i jednu pomorsku al zaboravih de je). --TheFEARgod (Ч) 08:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

nasao sam je: Battle of Point Pedro. Ako imas vremena sredi molim te. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
evo jos jedne: [2] --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:18, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Tvoj Battle of Jaffna izgleda da je isto bio kraj Point Pedra, stavio sam CNN-ov link vidi: Battle of Point Pedro (2006), jedno smo znači riješili. Za ovo drugo, probaj Battle of Jaffna (2006), a Battle of Jaffna da bude nekakav disambiguation u slučaju ako napišeš još članaka ako je bilo tako velikih bitaka za Đžafnu (npr. sad ću lupnuti - "Battle of Jaffna (19xx) . --TheFEARgod (Ч) 23:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
dobro. Nadam se da neces pustiti bez referenci. Takodje, šta sa Battle of Jaffna? --TheFEARgod (Ч) 19:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
dodaj reference još bar ili ti trud neće imati vrijednosti ako obrišu jednog dana. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 20:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
A mozes i Bandaranaike Airport attack --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zrtve u Vaziristanu

Ovako. Revertovao sam jednu tvoju izmenu gdje si ubacio 7 civila poginulih u Baludžistanu. To ima poseban konflit odvojen od onog u Vaziristanu: Balochistan conflict.

Pazi da ako budes update-o zrtve da postoji mogucnost da ne bude vazece. Npr. referenca kaze 300 zrtava ti dodas 20 ali to mozda nema referencu. Poz, --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tursko-Kurdski konflikt

Ne bih. To bi u ovom trenutku bilo jako POV i bez referenci--TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC) Inace, dobro bi bilo da bacis oko na nove članke 21 October 2007 cross-border attack on Turkey, October 7, 2007 Yüksekova incident --TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi there

Firstly I humbly appreciate your edits for the Sri Lankan conflict related topics. But I see that your {{Campaignbox Sri Lanka massacres}} conflicting with the deleted template {{State terrorism in Sri Lanka}}, while your {{Campaignbox Sri Lankan Civil War}} conflicting with {{Sri Lankan Conflict}}. Anyway your campaign box in Military operations of the Sri Lankan Civil War seems to be great but if you agree with me for the above mentioned problems please place a {{db-author}} on those respective template pages because the traditional way of deleting templates takes out our valuable time. Cheers --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ walkie-talkie | tool box 13:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nova bitka u Mogadišu

..je u tijeku: Battle of Mogadishu (November 2007) --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] War on terrorism infobox

I think you might be interested in reading what I wrote at Talk:Taliban_insurgency#Combatant_flags--victor falk (talk) 18:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A few points

  1. The official policy states that when unsourced content is challenged the burder of proof is not on the one challenging it, it is on the one defeding it, hence you. See WP:PROVEIT.
  2. Please do not remove my tags from unsourced articles, if you continue to do so you will be reported.
  3. I have tried to discuss with you but you refused to do so. Your violations of the 3 revert rule on War on Terrorism have been reported to WP:AN/3RR.
  4. After your block expires please try to discuss rather than revert war over unsourced content.
  5. Please comment on content and not the contributor.

--Sir Anon (talk) 21:43, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] November 2007

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Hmm ja mislim da je bolje da uopce ne bude lista kombatanata na strani WoT, bolje nego 30 izlistanih drzava. Po meni, nebi trebao uopce imati kutijicu jer je, kao Hladni rat rat samo po imenu, zbog POV americke administracije koja je dala totalno nepovezanim ratovima isti pridjev (npr. Rat u Libanu 2006. nemoze u isti kos kao i Rat u Libanu 2007. ili Afganistanski rat - jer Sijitski Hezbolah se ogradio od al Kaide i cak osudio Sunitsku grupu Fatah el-Islam. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Za WoT casualties malo pripazi, nemas argumenata ako ne das povjerljiv izvor, drugi useri ce te uvijek na temelju toga moci osudjivati. Jedna mala kritika sa moje strane: nije dobro da se previse igras sa brojem zrtvama - to moze zakomplicirati stvari jer npr. ako u izvoru pise 1,000, a ti si u medjuvremenu izbrojao jos 50, i napises 1,050 - u izvoru dalje pise 1,000 i neko ce to skuzit i revertovat. On nece znat kako si ti to uspio (ja znam da je pouzdano) i smatrat ce originalnim istrazivanjem. A brojevi zrtava se izdaju svakih par mjeseci pa nemaoras brinuti - pogotovo kod malih ratova. Medjutim, dobra ti je List of insurgent fatality reports in Iraq! Trebalo bi vise takvih, pogotovo u Somaliji (za Etiopljane-jer nezele priznat gubitke)

Glasao sam protiv brisanja Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/War on Terrorism: Allies jer mi se ne cini fer, mada se i ja nebih složio u nekim stvarima sa clankom.

I ja sam bio blokiran, nadam se da neces odustati od rada. Ako mislis da sam nesto krivo shvatio slobodno me ispravi.

Pozdrav, --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding War on Terrorism: Allies AfD

I have withdrawn my support to delete your page. Please have a look at the proposal by Victor falk to move and restructure this page as War on Terrorism: Combatants in order to present the full information on this in an unbiased manner.--Sir Anon (talk) 04:35, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Swat

Ja bih obadve bitke spojio u jedan članak, jer pauza od 8 dana ne mora znacit da su to dve bitke. Vidi Battle of Mogadishu (2007) (ona u Martu) kakve pauze je imala. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

slazem se sa tvojim proračunom (koji je vjerojatno točan) al uz broj koji si naveo MORA biti izvor sa baš tim brojem. Kažeš ((600+26)-(321+98))=207. Ja ću to shvatiti, ali čitalac neće nigdje naći u izvorima taj broj. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 18:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
vidi treći period: civilne zrtve 1,378. Kliknem na referencu i pise 1300. Neki čitaoc će se pitati "a otkud ovih 78 ako u referenci piše 1,300? Imam dobru ideju. Napiši 1,300 confirmed<ref>sa tom referencom<ref> + 78 reported (bez reference ili 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 - poredane reference)--TheFEARgod (Ч) 18:16, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Tvoja strana

..malo sam ti sredio, žao mi je bilo gledati imena članaka bez linka. Neznam zašto su neki crveni. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

..hm. ako nije u redu revertuj. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Musa Qala

Hi! Just a quick message to let you know why I reverted your edit on the casualties. There was only one British soldier killed in the actual battle, Sgt Lee Johnson, whom I knew - I took the photo of him shown on the article. I am involved with the HQ of his regiment and am fully aware there were no other UK deaths from the engagement. Had there been so it would have been published here:- UK Ministry of Defence Fatalities list. Can you supply a name or a reference for the US soldier you claim was killed in the battle I have not been able to confirm there was one? I suspect news media reports are confusing news reports of the death of a British Territiorial Army soldier from a few days previous, which only appeared that day as being from the battle, which is incorrect. See the article Talk page. Richard Harvey (talk) 02:33, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pozdrav

I tebi, hvala! Za puno vise clanaka u 2008! --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Žrtve rata u Vaziristanu

Vidi War in Waziristan. Pod Casualties. Dodao sam kutijicu u kojoj mozes dodavati zrtve, da ne mora članak imati 4 x infobox military conflict, to ni jedan članak nema. Ionako se sve ponavljalo u njima osim žrtava. Tako ćeš sada na miru dodavati tamo brojke. Sources dodaj iza onog malog "sources" i molim te da ne pises odvojeno poginuli vojnici/poginuli policajci. To je apsolutno nebitna podjela, zato sam napisao Pakistani forces a to se misli na oboje. Provjeri brojke koje sam ja dodao i ispravi.

Pozdrav i sretan božić--TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Poginuli u Irackom ratu

Pusti Iraq Body Count, jučer je izašao najprecizniji broj do sada: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7180055.stm --TheFEARgod (Ч) 09:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Sto se tiče napada na Marez i Nasiriju (Italijani), to NISU teroristički napadi nego legitimna diverzija protiv okupatora. I nema potrebe spajat ona dva napada na đamije u jedan članak.--TheFEARgod (Ч) 10:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] War in Waziristan

Baci oko na talk page. Poz --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Jedan prijedlog: tablicu sa zrtvama u Pakistanu bi mogao podijeliti na godine, ne na periode. Imaš dobar izvor ovdje za Vaziristan, ali i za NWF Province, što ide skupa. Naravno počni od 2004. Svakako, na tebi je odabir. Pozdrav, --TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:23, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rat u Somaliji

Takodje, volio bih cuti komentar i savjete za ovaj moj način vođenja evidencije: 2008 timeline of the War in Somalia. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 16:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

bez izvora nemože stajati informacija. Neko će vidjeti 4 a u izvoru dalje piše 2, misliće da smo ludi.--TheFEARgod (Ч) 19:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ukraine and Kosovo

diff Just so you know, Avala's link talks about a Committee, not a Ministry. Read both sources again. The Ministry has the official say on this, while a Committee needs to be backed by the majority of parliament. Therefore, Ukraine's position on Kosovo is still unclear. — Alex Khristov 07:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo > Other Entities > The European United Left–Nordic Green Left political group in the European Parliament

Hi, I had originally deleted The European United Left–Nordic Green Left political group in the European Parliament from Other Entities as there is no reason why this smaller political group of the European Parliament is mentioned and not the others. Also, we should then start listing all the views of all the groups of all the other international parliamentary assemblies. I suggested deleting; do you have a reason why it should be kept to the list of Other Entities? Thanks, --Scotchorama (talk) 09:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Kosovo Forces fatalities

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[edit] PKK and Turkish casualties

Hey Top Gun, What do you think about separating out the PKK and Turkish army casualties? Right now you're putting them with the regular insurgents casualties from the Iraq war. I'm thinking it might be more helpful to separate them out, similar to the way we're currently separating out the al Qaeda casualties from the insurgents. The main reason I think this might be helpful is due to the increased levels of violence in that part of the conflict-with the Turks actually invading with ground troops in their latest offensive. Any thoughts on this are welcome, since you're the "casualty tracker" guy. Cheers. Publicus 14:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

mislim da nije u redu da navodimo samo Turski vid žrtava (Iraq War). Moj savjet: čekati nezavisan broj. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 21:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
ne radi mi internet, molim te provjeravaj da na 2008 Turkish incursion into northern Iraq ne bude samo turski broj poginulih. Hvala , TheFEARgod --78.2.35.167 (talk) 15:05, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Babes

Hey TopGun. Theres no need getting all personnel with me. Just calm down mate, go watch an episode of Star Trek or sumet, release all your anger by watching fictional aliens getting killed yeh. Theres no need to discriminate against me because of my age and saying "you shouldn't be involving yourself with things like this and have no right speaking on this discussion page because you are just a 17-year-old kid who really doesn't know what he is talking about." thats just fascist and not a very nice think to say. Its a bit like me saying "you have no right here, because your Serbian and this is English Wikipedia, not Serbian Wikipedia" But luckily im not like that. I think its fair for me to say that we should all be equal here and ive got as much right to be here as you do. I thought you knew about the 5 pillars of wikipedia, as its on the top of your talk page. Obviously not. Also please stop criticizing me for things you don't even know about me. Have you got any evidence to suggest that i don't know what i'm talking about? Because i would love to see it. And Ive not been attacking any of them users you have named. In fact ive been working with Avala, and im pretty sure Avala will back me up when i say I'm neutral on this article. One last thing TopGun, if you have any problems just let me know. I'll help you out, you can have my shoulder to cry on. Cheers mate x x x x x x x x x x x
Ijanderson977 (talk) 23:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2008 timeline of the War in Somalia

Opisani događaj ([3]) dogodio se 5 Marta, i već je naveden pod 5. mart. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 11:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Ramadi 2004

Hello, Top Gun. I noticed you changed the Battle of Ramadi (2004) article back to a pyrrhic victory. I've reverted it, because it simply isn't. A pyrrhic victory implies that the victory was won at the cost of the majority of the victor's combatants. 16 killed and 25 wounded, while a tragic loss of life, isn't in any way crippling to the combat effectiveness of either the Marine battalion or Army regiment involved. Hence, it's an indecisive victory, because as you stated in your edit summary, they did lose the city shortly thereafter. Parsecboy (talk) 15:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shia unrest

Odlicno. Provjeri nove vjesti, mnogo poginulih u vazdusnom napadu u Hilli--TheFEARgod (Ч) 19:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Evo al-Sadrovci ušli u Nasiriju.[4] probaj stavit naslov teksta u google da nađeš link koji nije reutersov, jer se on vremenom gubi.--TheFEARgod (Ч) 09:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
borbe su prilicno zestoke. vidi sliku --TheFEARgod (Ч) 10:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
izvjestaj od 22 mrtvih je od 29 marta, moj BBC link sa 120 mrtvih je od 30 marta.--TheFEARgod (Ч) 16:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
molim te, post-campaign clashes nam ne trebaju, oni ce se desavati svakog dana, pa necemo jos mjesec dana listati incidente na toj stranici? --TheFEARgod (Ч) 20:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Mahdi Army fighters take up positions during the street fighting in Basra.jpg

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[edit] Need Help on another Kosovo Article

I am planning to do an article on the World's Response, (or lack thereof) to the Independence of Kosovo. I think that you will find what I have to say totally NPOV. If interested, e-mail me: ilya_7@yahoo.com Please type in "Response to Kosovo" in the subject line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricWarrior (talk • contribs) 18:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] War on Terrorism

If you can find me these references that you talk about (other Wikipedia articles are NOT reliable sources even if they are referenced themselves) then we can have a proper discussion. As it is you are re-inserting completely unreferenced material - there is no topic to argue about, one of the founding principles of the whole website is verifiability and it states very plainly: "Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed".--Sir Anon (talk) 10:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Koment

Deshta met vet si e ndjen veten per Shqiptart qi e kan marr pavarsin e jo si ju shkijet? Cka mendon? Kosova2008 (talk) 07:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I only asked you a simple question, I thought you spoke Shqip. You didn't have to insult me or whatever that said. Also to translate the above, "Just wanned to ask ya how you feel about those Albanians that got independence and not like you Serbs [who didnt]?" Kosova2008 (talk) 16:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


We both know that Kosova is independent. I just think you are in denial. Also nearly 40 countries have recognized...all the powerful ones, not the weak and crappy ones like Mexico, Indonesia or Russia. As far as electricity, it comes from somewhere called KEK (Kompania Elektrike e Kosoves) --- Serbian? I assume you also believe that Kosova is the cradle of Serbia? How is that possible since 17:1 is the ratio of Kosovars to Serbs. Learn your propaganda better, and have fun in Belgrade (i presume you live there). Kosova2008 (talk) 03:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

You sound so ridiculous that I thought I'd copy and paste what you wrote so you could read it as well, here you go: Kosova IS the cradle of Serbia, and always will be despite your burning down of our churches. In regards to that ratio of 17:1, that was not always the case. At the very least it was 2:1 until 15 years ago when you butchers started killing us and expelled the majority of our people from Kosovo, and then you started breeding like rabits. In regards to the ooooo-powerfull ones that have recognised you. Your great saviour the U.S. can't take care of itself why do you think they will take care of you. Their economy is in recesion and they are getting their asses kicked in Iraq and Afghanistan. And what's this Kompania Elektrike e Kosoves? Some backwater electricity plant from the stone ages? You guys are the ones in denial. Don't know if Russia is so weak and crappy since their word will be the final one in the U.N. in regards to your supposed independence. And Indonesia crappy? Don't know if you should talk like that about the country with the biggest muslim population in the world. That is if you want to be accepted by the Muslims of the world, which you are evidently not. Wake up my man, the U.S. is no longer the only super power in the world. Russia is standing back up on it's feat thanks to Putin. And the U.S. is slowly going down in flames like the Roman Empire. And, you are wrong on that last bit too. I am not from Belgrade but from Kragujevac, capital of Shumadia. Now go get ready because, it may take a year, or 5 years, or even 10 years, but we are coming back and when we do you are done for. And the next time there will be no NATO to save your asses. KOSOVO IS SERBIA! (Top Gun) Kosova2008 (talk) 12:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC) PS Kosova is Kosovar!!

I'm glad you're satisfied. I haven't retreated to deragatory propaganda like you have. We all know that "Nokia është Serbia" or in your language (Nokija je Serbija). Kosova2008 (talk) 15:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Siege of Sadr City

Neznam da li je od 2004. u tijeku opsada..., ili da li se to moze tako nazvati. Mislim da je članku mjesto u članku Sadr City-spajanje. Tako bi, po meni, bilo najbolje. Ili ne? --TheFEARgod (Ч) 18:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image source problem with Image:Mahdi Army fighters take up positions during the street fighting in Basra.jpg

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Thank you, but that's not enough. We still don't know who created the video ("insurgent" is very vague). The Youtube URL at least would be helpful. Superm401 - Talk 06:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Regarding, "How the hell should I know who created it", I could just as easily ask you why the hell Wikipedia should host a video without knowing where it's really from? NPOV does not override image copyright policy. Superm401 - Talk 18:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
You have to understand that "it was distributed on the net for propaganda purposes. So anybody can use it." is not a valid license. Insurgent legal problems are not a factor for Wikipedia. There's no explicit license, so it's non-free and can only be used under fair use. With the inclusion of the Youtube URL, it's in about the same position as many other fair use images. It's semi-justifiable legally, and will probably remain unless a free replacement can be found. Superm401 - Talk 20:49, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trolling

Please read WP:TROLL. --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 11:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Writing all around that "KOSOVO IS SERBIA" in nonsensical Wikipedia-unrelated manner is trolling and/or spamming. --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 19:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Pax, please do not keep my talk-page in mind when you are issuing this warning. It was a discussion and I am okay that Top Gun wrote that, it is a discussion and I take his/her opinion equal as mine. Thank you. Ari Kosova2008 (talk) 22:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:War on Terrorism#Compromise proposal

Please have a look.--Sir Anon (talk) 14:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Terrorism Newsletter

The Terrorism WikiProject
April 2008 Newsletter

News
Archives • Discussion

Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 06:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Casualty figures

Hello,

As you probably know, I've been working on the Operation Phantom Phoenix article and I'm just curious where you kept the tally of casualties for that operation. I'm not disputing your figures, I'd just to know how you kept track of them. Lawrencema (talk) 13:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mogadishu

Evo malo sam preradio. Morao sam stavit da bitka počinje Aprila 19, jer tako svi izvori kažu. Masovnim napadom na etiopske patrole. Ono prije su rutinski napadi, ako pogledaš timeline razumijećeš. Također stavio sam da je (zasad) kraj bitke April 20, jer kažu izvori sada je mirno. Naravno, ako dođe (vjerojatno) druga runda istaknut ćemo. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 18:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

a, bravo brz si--TheFEARgod (Ч) 18:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
de, u BiH?--TheFEARgod (Ч) 18:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Šri Lanka

možda će te interesirati brojevi: http://www.france24.com/en/20080424-over-200-slain-sri-lankas-bloodiest-battle-18-months-0 Tamo je pakao --TheFEARgod (Ч) 08:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

obavezno stavi u bokmarks, to je nova agencija: evo jos http://www.france24.com/en/20080425-sri-lanka-lost-185-soldiers-jaffna-battle-military-sources-0 --TheFEARgod (Ч) 08:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Sri Lankan Civil War- trebao si tipa prijaviti za WP:3RR --TheFEARgod (Ч) 10:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Resolving disputes

Re this comment: It's not productive to continue to post to the noticeboard after the situation there has been dealt with (i.e. admins have protected the pages). Talking about who reverted first won't solve anything. Please assume good faith and try to establish a positive, cooperative working relationship with Watchdogb so that you can work towards consensus by discussing things on the article talk pages. If necessary, see dispute resolution. As soon as you agree with each other about the disputed article content, you can use {{editprotected}} to request an edit to a protected page, or request that the page be unprotected. Feel free to contact me on my talk page if you have questions or need help. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 02:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please respect the Sri Lanka Dispute Resolution Agreement

This is a friendly notice. You may have overlooked that the article Sri Lankan Civil War, which you reverted, is under the Sri Lanka Dispute Resolution Agreement subject to edit restrictions. This means, among other things, that it is not allowed to revert to the same version more than once a day. Since there was also an other account who performed the same reversions as you, please be advised that this restriction is on a per version basis, not on a per account basis. Please therefore best avoid reverting articles that are subject to this agreement. As the blue box specifies, please instead report any issues at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sri Lanka Reconciliation. Thank you for your understanding and future cooperation. --— Sebastian 08:10, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

dobro je cak proslo, tip je prijavljen na noticeboardu o Šri Lankanskom sukobu. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 21:02, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply on my page. I am not planning on edit war anymore and if you feel that you have added the right information to wikipedia, then please do so. However, I have adapted a new policy in wikipedia after this warning. I do not intend to have any more edit wars because I am going to focus on improving articles and discuss rather than try to engage in edit wars. Anyways, sorry for any inconvenience I have caused you by edit warring. Watchdogb (talk) 04:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Unprotect article

Partially resolved? What does that mean? Anyhow, feel free to request unprotection at WP:RFUP. - Rjd0060 (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sadr City

Jel to možemo nazvat opsadom? Evo ti još jedan članak http://www.france24.com/en/20080430-least-925-killed-iraqs-sadr-city-clashes Pogledaj campaignbox WoT tamo sam nešto odgovorio --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

i vidi što sam našao ovaj članak List of military strikes against presumed terrorist targets, trenutno je očajan. Treba ga linkovati --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Basra

Premjestio sam post-operation basra clashes u clanak Iraq Spring Fighting of 2008 jer vise nema smisla nastavljati tamo. Ako bude nova bitka u basri najbolje novi clanak jer je previse vremena proslo. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 10:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jemen

Template_talk:Campaignbox_War_on_Terror: možda si Šijitsku pobunu koja nema nikakve veze sa ratom protiv terorizma zamijenio sa napadima al-Qaide u Jemenu koji jesu dio WoT. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 09:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ofanziva

Izgleda da se nešto sprema http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7387960.stm --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:40, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Liban

Drugi put, molim te, pogledaj u Portal:Current events dal clanak vec postoji :) --TheFEARgod (Ч) 08:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Template_talk:Campaignbox_War_on_Terror#About_adding_new_wars --TheFEARgod (Ч) 16:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
dobar argumenat, nisam se sjetio Fatah-Hamas conflict :) --TheFEARgod (Ч) 16:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Libanonska Vojska je neutralna, nemože biti u kutiji jer: a) ta 2 poginula ne moraju biti u izravnom sukobu sa militantima, b) nema službeni mandat za ulazak u sukobe, c) izvori ne govore o ulasku u konflikt: ta 2 su poginula, ali vojska u Bejrutu ne puca uopće na militante.--TheFEARgod (Ч) 19:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Stavio sam sve poginule u jedan broj, zbog zbrke. Naravno da bi bilo dobro imati sve brojeve, al zato predlažem da napraviš zbrajanje kao u mom članku 2008 timeline of the War in Somalia (tabela, broj poginulih ispod datuma...). Probaj sa Timeline of the 2008 unrest in Lebanon. Pomoći ću ti, svakako. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 19:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

da ne tražiš brojeve: [5] i još nešto, arhiviraj si talk page--TheFEARgod (Ч) 19:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2008 unrest in Lebanon

Regarding your editing. It is important to leave an edit summary, no matter how obvious your edit may seem. This is especially true if you remove material. This is extraordinarily true if you remove references. Check out Wikipedia:Edit_summary#Recommendations for why I'm bringing this fundamental idea to your attention. Have a great day. E_dog95 Hi 06:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

predlažem tabelu na vrh. Zanima me kada će biti kraj nekakve "prve runde" da napravim mapu. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 11:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] War on Terrorism casualties

About the french casualties, what do you mean by Contractors ? The total is wrong: 49 french died, military or civilians, mostly tourists. Here is the timeline, in French:

2001 1 employé (11/09/01) USA 2 journalistes (12/11/01) Afghanistan 2002 1 touriste (11/04/02) Tunisie 11 employés (08/05/02) Pakistan 4 touristes (12/10/02) Indonésie 2003 1 journaliste (20/03/03) Iraq 2004 2 contacteurs (06/01/04) Iraq 1 civil (11/03/04) Espagne 1 contacteurs (14/06/04) Iraq 1 combattant islamiste (17/07/04) Iraq 1 combattant islamiste (17/09/04) Iraq 1 employé (26/09/04) Arabie 1 combattant islamiste (20/10/04) Iraq 2 militaires (21/10/04) accident Afghanistan 2005 2 touristes (07/04/05) Egypte 1 civil (07/07/05) UK 1 militaire (17/09/05) Afghanistan 2006 1 militaire (03/03/06) Afghanistan 1 militaire (15/05/06) Afghanistan 2 militaires (20/05/06) Afghanistan 2 militaires (24/08/06) Afghanistan 1 agent DGSE (21/11/06) Iraq 2007 4 touristes (26/02/07) Arabie 1 militaire (25/07/07) Afghanistan 1 militaire (23/08/07) accident Afghanistan 1 militaire (21/09/07) Afghanistan 4 touristes (24/12/07) Mauritanie

Kormin (talk) 16:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cease-fire broken

12 May, there where new clashes between the al-Mahdi Amry and Iraqi security forces 2 killed, 25 wounded in clashes in Sadr city .Here, more clashes: U.S. troops repel attacks in Baghdad slum, kill 3.The Honorable Kermanshahi (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Here, more clashes.[6] The Honorable Kermanshahi (talk) 12:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

What's this? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

That's fine; I'm sure you know now that I was actually talking to that user, not myself. Best anyways. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of 2005 Hit convoy ambush

A tag has been placed on 2005 Hit convoy ambush, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

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[edit] Hit convoy ambush

No need to fly off the handle. Firstly, if you've read my CSD notice on the page (which i'm assuming you have, since you posted exactly the same message there as you did on my talk page, rendering your message moot) you would have seen that i dont "consider it nonsense" wikipedia just doesnt have a template for non-notable skirmishes. Secondly, a platoon is 30-50 men, not 17, and is military rather than PMC based. if the skirmish invoked debate about japanese PMC involvement, put that in the article so said article is more relevant. Iraq skirmishes such as Operation Planet X which are in a small area/involve few men simply redirect to the list of coalition operations; even battles like Operation Abilene involving brigade-sized units simply have a place on a list rather than an individual article. Ironholds (talk) 07:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm watching the articles talk page, i do so for any article i nominate for csd. I've responded in a bit more detail on said talk page, anyhoo. I meant moot for me, not for the other users; since i was watching the talk page i saw it twice. The iraqi insurgent numbering is marked as "Unknown", so i have no IDEA if the group was platoon sized. Since the attack used IED's, the number of insurgents doesnt neccessarily have to be platoon sized; a small group could just hose down anyone who pokes their head up over the wreckage. My point with the PMC is this; If you read the Blackwater, for example, article, any attacks are given in a timeline, since they are not notable enough for their own page. this whole article could be summarised as "on may 9th 2005, 16 contractors were killed and one captured when the convoy they were escorting was ambushed"; the issue is its notability for its own page, not its inclusion within wikipedia. Ironholds (talk) 08:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 Hit convoy ambush

I appreciate we disagree on whether it should be on wikipedia or not, but i've just corrected a lot of spelling and have a request; could you put it all through some kind of spellchecker next time? thanks. Ironholds (talk) 14:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sudan

Bilo je teških sukoba u gradu Abyei. Dal bi bilo dobro imati poseban članak? Po meni, samo od Maja 2008. (kada su uključene vladine snage protiv separatista), a ne prije (militanti protiv separatista) --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

izolirani događaj poput Battle of Malakal? --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
SPLA je organizacija (bivši gerilci) koja prolazi transformaciju u regularnu armiju buduće države South Sudan. Izgleda da je konvencionalno naoružana (T-55, oklopni transporteri...) tako da bi pogranične borbe mogle biti žestoke, nešto kao Etiopija i Eritreja. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 11:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)