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Archive 1 (until 7th of April 2006)
Archive 2 (until 14th of May 2006)
Archive 3 (until 4th of June 2006)
Archive 4 (until 7th of October 2006)
Archive 5 (until 4th of January 2007)
Archive 6 (until 6th of May 2007)
Archive 7 (until 28th of June 2007)
Archive 8 (until 21th of December 2007)

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[edit] Why did you delete Francis Cavanaugh, Lucas Cavanaugh, Francis Killian Cavanaugh

Francis Cavanaugh, Lucas Cavanaugh, Francis Killian Cavanaugh were all respected members of the North Side Gang, and gangsters in North Illinois(Chicago) and in Wisconsin. I wrote these articles from what I read out of books and on line on othere sites, if it was the fact i didn't reference them I have enough to do that, I can do a whole bibliography for you. I have books and websites on which I can reference to so please put them back on and I can edit it to make sense. These men should be reconized on your site, they were known in history. If you can not put these back can you send me the info I added so I can try in the future or go to another site? Thank You

Hi. These articles were deleted after a debate that took place here. If you have relevant sources, add the references by all means. I can restore the articles so you can work on them. But because they were deleted in a process, I would appreciate if you could fix them soon, like in a week or so. Just so that they other editors won't complain on recreation of deleted articles. Tell me if it's ok with you and when do you want me to restore them. Regards. --Tone 17:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes this is fine with me I can edit them at any time and i have sources that I can use for them. Thank you and I will edit them asap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hdxstunts1 (talk • contribs) 00:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok, restored. Greetings. --Tone 08:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank You, I have now cited some sources let me know if you need more or not! HDXstunts1 10:25:00, 22 January 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hdxstunts1 (talk • contribs)

[edit] List of historical figures in Civilization IV

Any chance you could restore the List of historical figures in Civilization IV? As I recall, there were objections on the talk page, and they were never responded to... rather, the article was just deleted. As I stated there, I believe this page is notable, and helpful, as a way to find further information on the historical figures from the game, since they all linked to their respective WP pages. Thanks! --Managerpants (talk) 14:58, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I don't object that the list is useful the way it is. However, it is not encyclopedic, as the WP content is supposed to be. If someone wants to have a look at the specific person, it is always possible to use the search box on the left. In my opinion, the list is redundant but if you want more people to join the discussion, I will be happy to restore it and put it to AfD. Greetings. --Tone 17:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
That sounds good. I appreciate it! --Managerpants (talk) 18:05, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advice on Quotations

Thank you for the warm welcome. I've found myself with an uncomfortable issue -- the author Humphrey Hawksley, who worked with my father, was for some reason unable to edit his page and I offered to put up his edits. He wanted his latest book to be up there, which I've done, but he also wanted "...which the Washington Post describes as “Die Hard meets 1984 . . . Fast-moving, sophisticated entertainment.” " to be up there (describing his latest book). I was wondering if this violated rules on using Wikipedia for advertising. It might be worthy to note that the Washington Post calls it "Fast-moving, sophisticated entertainment at its best..." and that particular paragraph is about the failings of the book.

I read through all the style guidelines I could find, but am still uncertain as to whether the inclusion of this quote would be appropriate, and if it isn't, why not. Thanks. Triacylglyceride (talk) 18:13, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello. Generally, citing relevant sources does not count as advertising. But make sure that it is within the context. For example, begin with the book, when was it published and all that and add a paragraph "critical reception" at the end. It will fit there just fine. I hope this helps, otherwise, ask again. Greetings, --Tone 18:58, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Part of what was deterring me was that the rest of his books were listed without even their publication date (only one has an article to itself). It seemed to me that having a quotation on the last book in the list would draw undue attention to it. Also, are "critical reception" sections appropriate for articles on authors? I thought they generally went on book's articles. Perhaps I was unclear on where the quote was intended for.Triacylglyceride (talk) 15:59, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, if there's no book article, why not having a critical reception section on the author? But then, only a comment on one book could indeed be weird. Try to find more on different books, I suggest. --Tone 17:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. The article is only a stub at the moment -- I'll suggest to him that we work to expand it, not just patch it up. You seem to keep a tidy talk page, so you should know that I'm set with this advice and you can take down this section when you want. Thanks again. Triacylglyceride (talk) 17:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you deleted David Gerstein (artist)???

DAvid Gerstein Is a good artist, considerable popular in US and Europe. In hebrew he has hes information in wikipedia. I wanted it to be abailble also in English. Please answer me!!!! my email is taly.i2@gmail.com --Taly.i2 (talk) 10:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)taly.i2

Hi. Ok, I can restore it but you should work on the article. In the present state, it is unacceptable. You should use full sentences and provide external references, not only a list of exhibitions. Greetings. --Tone 10:52, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

All the info was probided by DAvid Gerstein hem self the are not, than I remember, half sentences. It is a list of exhibitions. I was working on a translation of two articles from the newspapars. Also provided by the artist. I'll love to do more research. I read he is opening a new grand sculpture in Singapour, something like 18 metters tall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taly.i2 (talk • contribs) 11:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Good. Especially the biography needs to be written in prose. And according to the list of exhibitions, trimm it down and include just the most prominent ones. --Tone 11:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you delete "Chandler-David family property"

The page was historically correct and I do not understand why the page was deleted. While I did not create the page I did edit a portion of it. I can attest to its accuracy since the property talked about is in fact a part of my family's history. I would like to hear your reasoning behind it's deletion, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tchandler1 (talk • contribs) 06:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

The article was deleted in a prod process, the reason was that it was not sourced and an editor expressed doubts about notability. If you can address those issues, I can restore the article. Greetings. --Tone 10:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

What was the content that was questioned? I will address these issues if you could point out what exactly needs to be addressed. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tchandler1 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] why delete cheenu pillai

I had added an article on cheenu pillai, who is an emerging artist from india. Articles about him have been regularly appearing on all newspapers in India ( I had quoted two references as well) I have given added an image of a painting, for which i have digital rights.How better do I justify that he is a noteable artist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silkfort (talk • contribs) 08:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Hm... ok, restored. I would prefer more references that could be checked via internet though... Greetings. --Tone 10:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Westgarth Primary School - deletion

The Westgarth Primary School article has been deleted due to lack of notability. I've edited this page in the past, though I do not have a copy. The school has been the subject of a small book, Westgarth Memories (1992), which seems evidence of notability. The school is also frequently covered in local and state newspapers, particularly in relation to its music and performance program. It is certainly notable in its community, and the Wikipedia entry is an important way of building up a multi-author history of the school.

Additionally, it seems to me that any substantial school is worthy of a Wikipedia entry. A large number of Victorian schools large and small have Wikipedia entries. If school entries are to be deleted, there should at minimum be consistency and some guidelines. If these do not exist, I'd request you put the page back up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.213.91 (talk) 05:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, restored. There are some confusing guidelines regarding the school notability so I rather restore it straight away since the article is wikified and frperly sourced. Greetings. --Tone 14:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Paulo Bellinati deletion

I saw you deleted the Paulo Bellinati page. I disagree with that. Bellinati is an important guitarist and composer. A Google search for "Paulo Bellinati" (with quotes) gives 69000 entries and the German and Portuguese wikipedias have Bellinati entries too.Roffel (talk) 15:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, restored. But I would aprpeciate if you could expant the article. Greetings. --Tone 16:28, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1345

Thanks for the support on the talk page! Most people seem to favor this change. I'd like to invite you to help out as we try to improve 1346, or at least to pop in every once in awhile to see how it's going. Wrad (talk) 06:10, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Moving vs. blanking and copy-pasting

Thanks for the heads-up; it's not a situation I'd encountered before. -Juansmith (talk) 07:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] please restore Terry Silver

terry silver is a cult character. you may not know who he is, or the significance but there is a need for a wiki page. please restore! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrterrysilver (talk • contribs) 04:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I re-checked the article and basically all the content was the plot of the film regarding the character. To deserve a separate wiki article, there should be some justification why he is considered a cult character (with sources!). If you can address this concern, I will gladly restore it. Regards. --Tone 07:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Palm Harbor Fire Rescue

Why did you mark this for removal? Stevenc317 (talk) 13:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

An editor marked it as a csd. Having another look at the present form, I think the article is fine. Regards. --Tone 15:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slovenske občine

Na Template:Slovenia-municipalities in drugje nek anonim skuša uveljaviti nemška imena. Prosim poglej. --AndrejJ (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Glej tudi Talk:Sveti Andraž v Slovenskih goricah in Talk:Slovenske Konjice. --AndrejJ (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Steps to becoming an admin

You posted on my talk page and I was wondering if you could advise me a little more. I've tried to wait for an admin coach (number 26) and I've contacted Ieoth (the other user that made comments about my RfA) but I've not gotten anywhere. I don't want to burden you with "work" but I don't know another way to handle this. I'm trying to discern if another attempt at RfA would be viewed in a good light or bad light. You guys helped a lot the first time (saving me apparently considerable embarrassment) so I'm basically fishing for support before I make another stupid mistake :). Thanks for the input. Padillah (talk) 21:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Was going through the list of Mauritian personalities and noticed the bio note of Javed Bolah had been deleted. The latter is well-known in the Mauritian media scene. Would kindly suggest to restore that piece. KB —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bojakc (talk • contribs) 08:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, restored. Adding some references would be very useful. Greetings. --Tone 08:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Woah - Zero Hour (Stargate SG-1)

I hope you know what you're doing. I have greately expanded that article some weeks/months ago and may be too close to it, but I consider my prose and layout far from polished, and GAC has become really strict. I'd rather you give the article some more copyedit passes (I'll do so too, but I have some papers coming up soon). I previously needed to wait one month between nomination til GA review, so there is still enough time for improvement. – sgeureka t•c 17:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Austin Chick

Hi. I cannot find details of any AfD regarding the above film writer and director, so I assume that it was a Speedy (December 11, 2007). Could you please furnish details from memory as to exactly why he was not considered notable, given that he was nominated for an award for XX/XY, his 2002 film, and that he is certainly "talked about" (a pillar of the notability guidelines) in January 2008, especially during the lead-up to the release of his latest film, August? I find it odd also that both XX/XY and August qualify for articles quite comfortably, yet the writer and director of the former, and the director of the latter, has his article deleted.

I would like to re-create this article, and would like your assessment of whether or not this is now advisable. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 12:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello. The article was deleted in prod process, the reason was probably because there was basically one sentence in whole article. By all means, you are welcome to re-create the article, I only suggest you start from beginning because there isn't much useful content in the deleted version. Regards. --Tone 14:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah, yes, I found it - when the prod said "per WP:BIO", I assumed there were serious notability issues, whereas Google alone turns up some decent media discussion and blog interest, which is why I said he is talked about at the moment - there's quite an air of expectation over August - let's hope it's not all hype. I prefer to start from scratch anyway, so not to worry about the original. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 21:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Carlotta Champagne

Why did you deleted my page about Carlotta Champagne? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Didysik (talk • contribs) 08:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The reason was self promotion of unknown subject, use as model resume, no unusual accomplishments (as yet) when it was deleted for the first time. If you can address this issue, you are welcome to do so. Regards. --Tone 09:32, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slovenia

Meni se zdi, da je predloga o pomanjkanju virov v tem članku precej kontraproduktivna glede na to, da članek govori o splošnih dejstvih. Če bi jo dodal kak uveljavljeni uporabnik, morda ne bi rekel, da pa to naredi nek anonimnež, ki ni na wikipedijo prispeval ničesar uporabnega [1], pa se mi zdi rahlo domišljavo. LP --Jalen (talk) 12:14, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Mogoče je iz javnega računalnika in se ni prijavil. Lahko pa samo komplicira, tudi možno. Tukaj, na en:, je sicer navajanje virov veliko stožje kot na sl:, zato naj predloga kar ostane. Članek je itak treba precej predelati, ampak nekako se ne spravim oz. nimam navdiha. Enkrat bo pa treba. LP --Tone 12:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Browne Jacobson

Hi - I noticed that the article submitted for Browne Jacobson has been deleted again!! Sorry if I am getting something wrong when submitting information. I'm not sure why its listed as potential advertising - i've tried to remove all aspects of promotion of the firm to make it a suitable listing and make it more historic with some inclusion of the present situation. I tried to make it conform to many of the firms listed when you search "uk law firms". I referenced to external sites such as legal 500 and chambers. Is there anything else I can do? Or something in particular I am doing wrong!?

Thanks,

Richard —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjsmorley (talk • contribs) 13:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I deleted the article because it was prodded and noone complained in the time given. Hm... I suppose the best idea is to ask User:RHaworth, the user who initially tagged the article, for some suggestions. Hope it helps... Regards. --Tone 14:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
As Rjsmorley obviously contests the article's deletion, I've restored it. —David Levy 14:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why Delete Neil Michalares ?

Just wondering why Neil Michalares was deleted - he has been a very influential musician in the Bloomington Indiana Music scene, and many of his students often inquire about his history in music. I think having him on Wikipedia would be an excellent addition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by In3d (talk • contribs) 21:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you provide sources to prove he is influental? Google search returns few hits and the top are myspace and forums. If you can address this problem, I can restore the article. Regards. --Tone 22:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Internet wise I can't find much, and while myspace isn't factual it is very popular in the music promotions industry. The majority if his influence is through his private lessons, of which he teaches full time and has had hundreds of students, and continues to gain new students in the Bloomington, IN and Indianapolis, IN metro areas. As well, he has been a drummer and percussionist on CDs released by the bands in the articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by In3d (talk • contribs) 21:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

You see, one of the basic parts of Wikipedia is verifiability, especially when it comes to living persons. The sources don't have to be only internet, they can be newspaper coverage or things like that. Being a member of a band is a possible solution, I can restore the article and send it through afd process. If the community decides it is ok, there will be no problem in keeping it. Shall I do so? Regards. --Tone 21:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd like for you too, in discussion maybe I can update and edit changes which aren't wikipedia worthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by In3d (talk • contribs) 15:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Restored and adf-ed. I hope it helps. Regards. --Tone 16:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks from Happy-melon

I just wanted to say thanks for your support for my RfA, which closed (74/2/0) this morning. Your comment and support was very much appreciated. Happy‑melon 15:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Your GA nomination of Slovenian presidential election, 2007

The article Slovenian presidential election, 2007 you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Slovenian presidential election, 2007 for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. jackturner3 (talk) 22:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Blackblack

You really shouldn't have deleted the article for Los Angeles-based rock band Blackblack. You claim that it doesn't meet criteria for notability as outlined in WP:MUSIC, but Blackblack contains a member of another notable group (Alex Greenwald of Phantom Planet). Also, they have been written about in several notable publications, including a very positive review on the website Paper Thin Walls. Therefore, you had no right to delete the page, and I request that you put it back up. -Lamarcus (talk) 05:21, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Not to mention the fact that you didn't even discuss a possible deletion in the talk page, but you just outright deleted it. Gee, you seem to be getting a lot of complaints like this. -Lamarcus (talk) 09:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
The article was deleted in prod process because an editor expressed a doubt about the notability of the subject. I am restoring it but I am putting it to afd to generate a clear consensus. Regards. --Tone 11:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion Of Maritime Football League

I am curious how you figure official league pages, including from the Canadian Football governing body and the provincial football bodies from Nova Scotia and New Brunswick fail the reliability test? Granted, there is not a lot of information available regarding the league. The point is it is a major amateur football league in Eastern Canada and deserves to have a page written regarding it. I fail to see how the page can be deleted without a discussion about it. Please restore the page and follow the article for deletion discussion steps before arbitrarily deciding something doesn't fit. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 08:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

The article was deleted in the prod process. I put it to afd now to generate a consensus. Regards. --Tone 11:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rob Jacoby

I do not understand the deletion of Mr. Jacoby's wikipedia page. Several tunes from Mr. Jacoby's album have been put into rotation on several jazz stations across the country. In addition, Mr. Jacoby has been interviewed on air on one of those stations. It is safe to say that the artists featured on Mr. Jacoby's album, including David Hazeltine and Brian Lynch, who recently won a Grammy, are in a high enough caliber for Mr. Jacoby's wikipedia page to remain. As per the criteria for musicians and ensembles Mr. Jacoby meets the following: Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable, has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network and has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network. Though jazz may not be considered popular, the jazz stations that featured Mr. Jacoby are indeed major in the jazz world, and that is what counts. I sincerely hope you reconsider this pages deletion as it is a testimony to the jazz scene of today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.100.213.79 (talk) 07:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. The article was deleted in the prod process. An editor expressed concerns about notability of the person. Since you contest the prod, I am restoring the article and I will put it through afd. If it passes, I see no problems in keeping it. But you should certainly provide some references for the statements above, unreferenced articles are always a problem. Regards. --Tone 07:56, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wondering why Joyce Kim was deleted?

The GigaOm Show is pretty popular, and her name is already being linked to from Om Maliks wiki page.

I appreciate your consideration on this one.

24.5.78.60 (talk) 16:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The article basically had no content apart from two sentences. In two sentences, it is very hard to establish notability of the subject, add references and stick to the wiki-style. I guess there will be no problems in keeping the article if you rewrite it with some more content. Greetings. --Tone 17:59, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

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[edit] Deletion of Criticism of the Bhagavad Gita

Why was Criticism on Bhagavad Gita deleted? Chritianity has a section for criticism of the Bible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Bible).

I am a Hindu and want to criticise aspects of Gita that appears to be added or incoherent.

User Gourang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GourangaUK)looks biased and not ready to critisize his own religion.

I am a scientist and believe everything should be open for criticism including my own religion. More over his request for deletion was not appropriate as I had also added a response section that aanswered criticism.

Please put the article back so that unbiased analysis of this scripture gets an oppurtunity. Do not make riligiously biased win. It was deleted within minutes which is not fair. Author should get an oppurtunity to respond.

Raghavendra ~rAGU (talk)

Hello. There's no problem with the idea of the article itself. Of course, Wikipedia tends to be objective and treat various aspects and viewpoints. However, the article was only a sketch and contained no references. When dealing with a possibly controversial topic, this should be avoided. Have a look at WP:NOR as well, you should always provide sources for your claims. So I invite you to start the article from the beginning instead of restoring the previous versin. Regards. --Tone 22:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Meniskus speedy delete

Hi, Firstly, I want to say THANK YOU for all the work you do here. I am brand new as a contributor, but have used the site for years as a resource, and find it to be the best source of information on the internet, largely because of the work of people like you. As far as the article on Meniskus goes, this is my first page, and I modeled it after the page on DeVotchKa, who are peers of Meniskus. I would greatly appreciate the opportunity to revisit the page on meniskus and work to make it more relevant. I know that you are a musician as well, so perhaps you can give me some tips on what would make it more relevant. Larger significance of the band? I'm just not sure what gives a band relevancy. Thank you again, Eric —Preceding unsigned comment added by Webmanos (talk • contribs) 23:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the compliments :-) The problem with the article is that it does not assert the notability well enough and notability is the criteria a band deserves its article. You can find a good reading for the beginning at WP:MUSIC, the criteria are listed there. Two study albums is good but you only provide one website apart from the official one as the reference. For now, I will copy the article to your userpage so you can work on it and repost it when you think it's ready. Regards. --Tone 19:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Globant

Hi,

I would like to know why you deleted Globant ´s page. That company is commonly known in the IT world in Argentina, referred by lots of media and received different recognitions... It has been named as the top 5 leader in the south of the border and International Data Corporation has also mentioned the growth of the company as part of its 2008 trends. When writing the article, I followed the guidelines and used the articles of another companies as a model... Could you please let me know if we could restore it? if not, is there a chance to recover the source and point out how to improve it? Thanks --WandaWeigert (talk) 23:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. The article at the present state reads completely like an advertisment and can't stay like this. Things like Organization Culture don't fit into an encyclopedic article. And the prose should read more neutral (like Moreover, Globant has aligned its businesses specializing in different industries..., Globant's growth was reflected in its revenue and headcount, which were doubled each year and so on need to be rewritten). Because you say the company is notable in Argentina, I am going to restore it and put to afd. This will give you a week time to improve it and hopefully there will be some comments from other editors as well. Regards. --Tone 19:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tone, Thanks for restoring Globant´s article. I´ve been updating the content, trying to make it less advertising and adding more references. Do you think you could take a look at it to see if it has improved or if I still need to work on it? Thanks a lot, --WandaWeigert (talk) 16:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ITN

Could this image be put on the in the news section?, per the new Kosovo entry. Regards, Rudget. 14:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Can someone upload the image to English WP first, images need to be protected but if they are on Commons, it's a problem. --Tone 15:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Eeek, I'll do some digging. Rudget. 15:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Protection of Kosovo

Hello Tone. I don't think that full protection to this article is necessary. Edit warring is not that worrisome yet. And we do need editors to make changes to this article regarding Kosovo's declaration of independence. Regards, Húsönd 15:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, but I will still semi-protect it. Let's see how it develops... But you are right, updates are needed. --Tone 15:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
It hasn't stayed stable. It is clear that full protection is required. Abc30 (talk) 15:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I'll let another admin protect it. Though I see a full protection is in place, I don't want to change the protection status for the third time again. --Tone 15:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Main page mention of Kosovo

Would this be okay?

"Kosovo's parliament assembly has unanimously endorsed a declaration of independence from Serbia, a move without the support of Russia" - the western mention is easily findable if the reader clicks the bold link. Regards, Rudget. 16:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggest it on the talkpage, I am not only one to make decisions... Some variations may be good but I disencourage making bigger changes before we have more people agreeing. I need a break, I've had enough monitoring of the situation for a while... --Tone 16:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks for helping out before though. Appreciated. Regards, Rudget. 16:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slavic settlement of Eastern Alps

Živjo,

te lahko prosim, če občasno nadziraš ta članek. Hvala in LP, Jalen (talk) 09:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Bom dodal na spisek nadzorov. Zgodba iz sl: se ponavlja... LP --Tone 10:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tone and Jalen! I would like to particpate in the talk by my knowledge of slovenščina is very poor. I think that, as this is english Wikipedia it is better to talk in english.--Marcos G. Tusar (talk) 11:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure. The translation of the above: Jalen asked me to check the article and I said I'll put it to my watchlist. Since we've discussed the topic at sl:wiki, we already know what it is about. Regards. --Tone 11:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Tone --Marcos G. Tusar (talk) 14:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Karantanija

Zelo sem skeptičen glede primernosti slike Regnum Carentano na začetku članka. Kot prvič, projicira Slovence v 9. stoletje in jih enači s Karantanci. Opis Karantania around 597 je povsem neprimeren, saj Karantanije ni bilo pred letom 660, poleg tega ni dokazano, da bi kdajkoli segala tako daleč na jug in vzhod. Še drugi nesmisli so, ki izdajajo, da slika gotovo ni vzeta iz verodostojnega vira: Hrvati niso Hrvatians, temveč Croats, Ogri pa niso Ogres temveč Magyars ali v najboljšem primeru Hungarians. LP, Jalen (talk) 12:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Poleg tega postavlja Slovenijo v Slavonijo. Sicer nisem zgodovinsko kompetenten, ampak nesmisli so nesmisli. Slika je pa itak brez vseh podatkov in bo kot taka hitro izbrisana. Tako kot ostale slike istega uporabnika. Mimogrede, dajva raje na tej strani pisati po angleško, nenazadnje je to angleška wp. LP --Tone 13:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A voice from the past

A voice from the past :-). First, how has everything been Tone? I hope everything is going well with you and yours. Now that I buttered you up, was hoping you could look over an article and give some insight. To be honest, the material is so far over my head I would not know where to begin. The article in question is Cohen Modal Cluster Haplotype, which is involved in a very contentious Afd as shown here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cohen Modal Cluster Haplotype. Both parties, for and against, are looking to me to settle. Moreover, as I said, I do not even know what they are talking about, let alone contribute reasonably and rationally. Appreciate any and all insight you may be able to shed. In the mean time, take care. Shoessss |  Chat  17:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I'm doing fine... I'll have a look at the afd but probably in a day or two because I already see it's going to take some time... I am not an expert on the subject but maybe I can help anyway. Greetings. --Tone 17:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Appreciate. Have a great day.Shoessss |  Chat  09:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Yankee mb

Hi again,

sorry for annoying you, but this user's edits seem seriously problematic to me. He has been removing content and adding total nonsense (see Noricum, Noric language) and changing historic data (see Karantania- this article is now in a complete mess). Regards, Jalen (talk) 21:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CAT:CSD work

Could I please request your attention to a discussion here about the appropriateness of some speedy deletions you have recently made. Note that the discussion is not intended to be critcal of your actions in any way. I myself made some of the same deletions before I started to second guess myself over them. - TexasAndroid (talk) 20:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 80th Academy Awards nominees and winners article

Some technical details:

  • it is not really a common practice to use sentences like Please refer to the notation. Use footnotes instead.
  • if there is a link to list of oldest nominees, there is no need to say that Dee's nomination displaces Jessica Tandy, since it is easy to read this following the link.
  • no need to write that something is notable. If it is not, don't include it at all, that's the idea (for the notes section).
  • you really don't have to list all the 10 other people with multiple nominations. Make a link to the article about that or, if there is no article, create one.

I hope you find this useful. Greetings. --Tone 23:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the useful tips! Seems like much of this is stylistic preference, however, and not really "right or wrong" per se. Personally, I think that the article was better with all of the notable nomination information all clumped together in one comprehensive (i.e., easy-to-read, easy-to-find) section. Now, we have the same exact information --- just that it is intermittently interspersed throughout the entire article. What sense is that? How does that help the reader, really? Sometimes, unfortunately, people (translation, xxx) don't see the forest for the trees. And they insist on mechanically sticking with some published "rule" --- just for the sake of sticking to a rule --- regardless of its effect or disfunction. Such is life. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Carantania

Now that the unsourced images have been removed, I also removed some of the patent inaccuracies (such as the dating of Carantania prior to 660) and renewed a part of content that was removed by user Yankee mb. The same user also added a large part of content that speaks of the Ducal Coronation, which is unsourced and looks to me very much as if it were copied from a book: [2]. I have left that for the time being. Regards, Jalen (talk) 08:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yemeni_Tadamon_organization_defending_freedoms_and_rights

Unless im making a major mistake here, this article was about a Not for profit organisation which seemed notable enough to give the origional creator at least some time to source it. Are you sure this had to be a speedy? Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 17:13, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, it seemed pretty much as blatant advertizing to me. Written in first person and seems as copied from somewhere. Needs to be written from scratch again, IMO. I can restore it but it won't help much. --Tone 17:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BIBSYS

Hi I don't understand the deletion (Special:Log/delete&page=BIBSYS) of BIBSYS. Not very well written, but speedy deletion? This is the provider of library information systems for all universities and National_Library_of_Norway in Norway About BIBSYS [3] (Norwegian). I found this on the website (www.nb.no) for National_Library_of_Norway (not much information in english) "The library does not carry out extended genealogical research. Acquisitions catalogued from 1990 are listed in the national on-line catalogue BIBSYS. "[4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsaa (talk • contribs) 23:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

If you don't agree, please consider deleting Template:Bibsys (created, but still not in use. Used in 25+ articles in the Norwegian Wikipedia no:Spesial:Lenker_hit/Mal:Bibsys). Nsaa (talk) 23:23, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Restored after reconsideration. However, it would be nice if you could add more than one sentence of content. Greetings. --Tone 13:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanx. Did some small changes and added a sentence. Nsaa (talk) 22:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Coaching Re-confirmation

Hello, previously you expressed interest in participating in the Wikipedia:Admin coaching project. We are currently conducting a reconfirmation drive to give coaches the opportunity to update their information and capacity to participate in the project. Please visit Wikipedia:Admin coaching/Status to update your status and move your entry to the Active list. Also, please remember to update your capacity (5th table variable) in the form of a fraction (eg. 2/3 means you are currently coaching 2 students, and could accept 1 more student). Thank you. MBisanz talk 09:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching match

Hi Tone, I've just received a message to say that I've been matched with you for Admin coaching, so this is a quick message to introduce myself... and say thank you as well!

As the text I provided in my request states, I've been editing WP for three years now. Most of the articles I create and edit are related to football, but I edit pretty much anything where an edit needs making, or if I can expand an article.

As well as creating and editing articles, I've been taking an increasing interest in the community aspect, such as patrolling RC, getting involved in AfD, and involvement in WikiProjects. I'd like some coaching to broaden my knowledge of the different areas of WP so that I can be more effective as a user, and potentially progress onto adminship if suitable. The tools I use at the moment are TWINKLE, POPUPS and I've also been enabled to use the rollback feature.

Look forward to hearing from you! robwingfield «T•C» 08:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NYP photo question.

hi - i just left a question for you over at Main Page discussion. J. Van Meter (talk) 15:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re deletion of user ady-x categories

Were they deleted for WP:CRYSTAL issues or what? Your deletion summary didn't provide any enlightenment. Octane [improve me] 26.02.08 1608 (UTC)

I suppose you mean the language categories. They got deleted because they were empty and there is one of the speedy criteria for those. However, the deletion was already discussed, maybe it would be better to leave them as they fill in the system. The csd criteria could be adjusted a bit. I don't think we've got anywhere from that point... This will have to be addressed once more but in a more centralized discussion with more people participating. Greetings. --Tone 18:51, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Ah-ha. That's what I thought, but the red links made me twitch. Octane [improve me] 28.02.08 0643 (UTC)

[edit] Carantania- 3

The introductory paragraph currently states that Carantania was established in the 6th century. This is factually wrong and should be corrected, however, to avoid edit-warring with user Marcos G Tusar I will for some time refrain from editing that article (within the past week, he has reverted my correction three times). I left a note on the talk page [5]. The History section in the article Slovenia [6] gives the same wrong number. Also, any identification of Carantania as a Slovenian principality is untenable from the academic point of view. Regards, Jalen (talk) 09:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo

OK, I'll make my point short. How is endorsing Kosovo as a country neutral? --GOD OF JUSTICE 23:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cohen Modal Cluster Haplotype

Hello. I see the debate is closed now. I have read the article and the discussion and I found myself pretty much incompetent to give a wise suggestion so I rather said nothing. Looking at the result of afd, it seems reasonable to me. Sorry I was not much of a help, maybe next time. Greetings. --Tone 20:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment -Well hello Mr. Tone. First, sorry it took a day or two to get back to you. But real life keeps getting in the way! Thank you very much for looking into the article for me. Now, I do not feel so bad! If it was tad over your head, you can only imagine my predicament! However, all’s well that ends well. Both editors are unhappy with the finial decision, so I feel that the right one was made. Always believed if one individual comes out smiling after an opinion was voiced, it was probably the wrong outcome. In the mean time, you take care, and of course, you know, that you got off easy this time! The next time, I will get you involved at the very beginning and let you demonstrate your diplomatic skills and sit back in awe, and just take notes :-) . Shoessss |  Chat  04:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Straying far afield

This [7] was filed on a page I'm active at, so I figured you might want to handle it. MBisanz talk 04:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Green Dragons

I'm still not seeing any indication of notability. A Google search has not really thrown anything up- I take it you are familiar with the group? Could you perhaps just add a couple of references to the article that indicate notability? J Milburn (talk) 10:47, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


Did some googling for some references, they're all in Slovene though:
[8]
[9]
[10]
[11]
[12]
[13] - a short(9 min) movie about them

[14]
.... it goes on

A short history in three parts:
[15]
[16]
[17]

Nerby (talk) 15:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] coat of arms tag

Hey there, I'd like to add the coat of arms to the Vrhnika article, but I don't know how to classify it. I'm pretty sure coats of arms aren't copyrighted in Slovenia. Particularly eye-catching among other such signs is the [18] Washington state seal, which is in the public domain "under the terms of Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 105 of the US Code". Do we also have a law about this? Lep pozdrav. Nerby (talk) 15:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks like I'm not the only one with such problems: [19] o.o Nerby (talk) 15:57, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your adoptee

Hello Tone.

I haven't been a very good adoptee. I've been spening my time on to many things without doing anything properly. But I think I've sorted out what I want to do with my time now... so if you'll take me: I'm ready to get into Wikipedia editing - properly this time.

Thank you.

--Iomesus (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What happened to Big-O Software and AIM+ ?

Hi, I note you deleted the page referring to Big-O Software. Their site at www.big-o-software.com hasn't gone anywhere for some time, I am wondering if you know what "the story" is? If it might help anyone, I have discovered you can still download AIM+ from a download site, I think it was CNet but I have to check, I forgot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.16.12.252 (talk) 18:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The article about Big-O had no content whatsoever so no point in keeping an empty article. You can write some content. The other one is existing, I didn't delete it... --Tone 20:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] In the news

Hello, Tone. Your name was mentioned here as a person who might be able to help. Best wishes. -Susanlesch (talk) 03:09, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Taddle Creek (magazine)

I object strongly to your deletion of Taddle Creek (magazine). According to the deletion log, you decided to delete it because it's a "non-notable local magazine." This is a provably false assertion. Taddle Creek is not "local" -- it is a nationally distributed magazine in Canada. And it is not "non-notable." While you, personally, may not have heard of the magazine in Ljubljana, in Canada it has been nominated for several important national prizes -- a fact that had been noted in the body of the article.

I respectfully request that you restore the article.

Sincerely, CDT —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chief Detective Tokura (talk • contribs) 20:56, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The article was deleted in prod process, since you object, there is no problem with restoring. However, I invite you to add some references to the article to make it better. Greetings. --Tone 21:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:User br-3

Hello Tone! Why did you delete category User br-3? I do not understand, why category User br does not need this subcategory. --Stefan Knauf (talk) 20:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Well, the category was deleted because it was empty. This was addressed before, we should probably modify the guidelines to prevent such events in the future. You can recreate the category if you want. Greetings. --Tone 20:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
O.K. I recreated it. --Stefan Knauf (talk) 21:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question regarding deleted "Ruby Lopez" article

Hello, I was wondering why the article "Ruby Lopez" was deleted. I was hoping you could help me, I would really like to have that article restored. I'm not sure if it was deleted due to lack of references but I would really like to help correct this by providing the following references below. I hope this helps. Thank you so much for your consideration.

Here are the references: For Ms. Latina USA Winner: www.misslatina.com and http://misslatina.com/success.html For Final Fu Contestant: http://www.mtv2.com/#series/20597 For Ruby Lopez Official Website with Resume/Credits: www.RubyLopez.com For Hosting "Reset" on Yahoo.com: videogames.yahoo.com/reset As host of Intel's PC Advisor show: www.pc.com As Pit Reporter/Host for Various Race Series': http://knfilters.com/videos.htm SFSU Article/Q&A with Ruby Lopez: http://www.sfsu.edu/~news/2004/spring/73.htm San Francisco Chronicle Newspaper Article about Ruby Lopez: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/12/26/WBGMV3SPQJ1.DTL Oakland Tribune Newspaper Article about Ruby Lopez: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-6961091.html

Thanks Again =) MATKD (talk) 03:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The article was deleted in a standard prod procedure. Since you object, I restored it. You may want to fix the references in the article so that they will fit the wiki-style and so that they won't be just a bunch of external links. Regards. --Tone 17:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Institutions offering Mechatronics Engineering

Hi Tone,

Why did you delete the page called "Institutions offering Mechatronics Engineering"? I am a Mechatronics Engineering Student and I had added several universities on the list. I found the list EXTREMELY useful to find universities and colleges offering this program. I used it as a database from which I conducted my searches that have let me to the university I am presently studying at. I am sad to see the list has been deleted specially because it was growing rapidly and because Mechatronics is a new subject and many people do not know how to go about looking for information about it.

Could you please restore the list? It would be a massive favor to us all.. Thank you very much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.240.27.15 (talk) 19:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Teh article in question was just a list of external links and this is in direct contradiction with a guideline for an encyclopedic article. I believe that the content is useful, it is only not appropriate fot WP. If you need the content of the article, I can provide it to you but I don't think it would be ok to restore the article completely. Regards. --Tone 16:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slovenia

Hi there! You are welcome to join WikiProject Slovenia . We need as many Slovene members as possible!!

♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello friend welcome. I've been doing some work the last few days on the great country that is SLovenia.

Could you help with

v • d • e
Celje
Neighborhoods
Landmarks
Celje Castle - Spodnji Celjski grad - Celje Railway Station - Novo Celje Mansion - Celjsko mestno obzidje - Water Tower - Old County - Celje Ceiling - Kalvarija -Prothasi Mansion - Mary's Column - Town Hall - Iron Mansion -Slovene People's Theater - National Hall - Celje Hall - Celje Post Office -People's Savings Bank - Stari pisker Prison - Minorite Monastery - War and Peace (Monument) - Celje Hut -Grmada - Jošt's Mill
Local communities
Towns and villages
Culture
Notable people
Emerik Bernard - Jolanda Čeplak - Anica Černej - Janez Drnovšek - Janez Drozg - Thea Gammelin - Cvetko Golar - Damjana Golavšek - Andrej Hieng - Stane Jagodič - Romana Jordan Cizelj -Jelko Kacin - Ivan Kovačič Efenka - Alma Karlin - Janez K. Lapajne - Janez Lapajne -Vladimir Levstik - Stanko Lorger - Matija Lubanus - Vita Mavrič - Drago Medved - Brane Mihajlovič Kosta - Peter Muhič - Vatroslav Oblak - Janko Orožen - Darinka Pavletič-Lorenčak -Oto Pestner - Rok Praznik - Tomaž Prelokar - Brikcij Preprost - Franc Purg - Andreja Rihter - Fran Roš - Lojze Rozman - August Friderik Seebacher - Bina Štampe Žmavc - Josip Tominšek - Beno Udrih - Urška Žolnir
v • d • e
Bridges in Slovenia
Ljubljana
Elsewhere
v • d • e
Hydrography of Slovenia
Rivers
Lakes
Valleys
Waterfalls
v • d • e
Ljubljana
Districts
Landmarks
Palaces and houses
Churches
Culture
Science and education
People
Transport and infrastructure

Your translation help would be much appreciated! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I;ve created List of lakes in Slovenia but could you add the englishized some of the lake e.g Lake ... and then the slovenian name (.... jezero) in brackets? When that is done I can add the lakes to the hyrdology template with rivers cheers ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Nice idea with the project. About the templates, the problem with translation is that in Slovenian, you make an adjective while you don't use it in English as such. So there is Cerkniško jezero and Cerknica Lake. So shall I put both? Translation as such can be tricky, I don't want to invent new namings... I can help but be more specific. --Tone 16:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes could you do both. I don't mind as long as the links are set up ready for starting . Do whatever you think is appropriate ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC) Another thing many of the links in the Template:Celje are not translated yet. Could you change it to english -I;ve done a few that I could make out ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Recreation of a deleted article

Someone recreated an article you deleted last fall: Antagarich. I just thought you should know since it still lacks the real world info you cited as the reason for deletion. --Mika1h (talk) 23:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'd like to request that the Antagarich article be returned. The article is focused on a location which spans ten games in an already-popular gaming series and is more than notable in that context, at least.

Lack of real-world notability was cited - if you can direct me to some means of improving on the previous article and satisfying this requirement, I'll gladly try to work on that. If this is unreasonable and you'd prefer the article stay deleted, please let me know. Thanks for your time --Caddigan (talk) 9:58, 21 March 2008

Ok, I will recreate the article and put it to afd. During the process, there will be enough suggestions how to improve it. Greetings. --Tone 13:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, appreciate it. --Caddigan (talk) 2:36, 22 March 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.56.67 (talk)

[edit] Crnikal.jpg

Tone, lahko zbrišeš Image:Crnikal.jpg (fairuse) in jo zamenjaš s prosto istoimensko http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Crnikal.jpg? --AndrejJ (talk) 16:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Urejeno. LP --Tone 13:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] curse wikipedia

You have deleted an article Gounder (caste) which contained hard collected details. I was blocked from editing as it was under protected category. The curse of my ancestors shall fall upon wikipedia.

After re-checking, I see that the prod process was carried out not in the perfect way. So I will recreate the article and nominate it on afd, I hope you can fix the problems during the process. Regards. --Tone 13:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] anonymous deletion DENIED!

a while back, you tried to delete my page on the anonymous group for "no informative content". the thing is, it did have content. the only thing that was "wrong" or "uninformative" about my page was how i presented the info. the reason that i did this was to give the reader a sence of how anonymous is styled, if you will. the reason i didnt write the page like a grad student with to much time on his hands is that thats not how anonymous makes you feel. anonymous is not intulectual. dont get me wrong the guys a friken geniuses! but its just not how they would want there infomation to be delt with. i tried to give the reader a sence of how anonymous works, not just a hard print of there dictionary deffinition; something you just cant do with a pen and paper.


oh and by the way, every one i know decided to band together and fix the page because they found it important information (imagine that) so that people like you who go aroud and just try to get everything deleted, will just leave the encyclopedia alone. no offence or anythging, but just leave our damn articles alone! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimcoy27 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Can you tell me which article it was? I can't really help you if I don't know which article we talk about... Regards. --Tone 13:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Žiri

Prosim poglej, naveden je vir, pa kljub temu dodaja unreferenced. --AndrejJ (talk) 12:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Odstranjena predloga. LP --Tone 18:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Pa spet in spet, pa tudi Zidani Most, pravzaprav skoraj vsi slovenski kraji. --AndrejJ (talk) 18:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Ja kaj hočeš, saj res nima referenc. Osebno se zavzemam za referencirane članke, tukaj na en: imam nekoliko strožja načela kot na sl: Predlagam, da damo nalogo na taskforce Slovenia, da se članke opremi z referencami. Saj pri večini bi se dalo shajati s popisom, samo zunanjo povezavo je treba dodati (trenutno je samo np.) Potem pa AWB hitro opravi delo (samo jaz ga nimam). --Tone 18:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Zunanja povezava dodana v infobox, glej tudi User talk:Gooddays --AndrejJ (talk) 18:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Poglej prosim dopolnjen Zidani Most. --AndrejJ (talk) 07:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Sicer se načeloma z zahtevo po referencah strinjam, čeprav potem skoraj tukaj ne bi smelo biti članka brez te oznake. Poleg tega smo že pri nas razpravljali o "splošnem znanju" (xy je mesto v Sloveniji), za ilustracijo sem dodal nekaj (preveč) referenc. Meniš, da za občine ustreza povezava, ali jo je potrebno dati v <ref> </ref>?

MMG, Gooddays ima zanimiv pristop k uradnemu odstranjevanju pogovorne strani.

Prosim te tudi, če lahko zaščitiš User:Andrejj pred anonimi. --AndrejJ (talk) 08:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Sem zaščitil tvojo stran. Kar se tiče referenc, footnote notacija je verjetno boljša, če se ti da. Gooddays ima pa hecen smisel za humor, res je. Jaz sem tukaj admin in se mi ne zdi prav vpletati če ni ravno kršenja pravil, lahko pa prosiš za komentar kakšnega nevtralnega, da pove svoje mnenje (WP:RFC). Seveda mu lahko spet na pogovorno stran nalimaš komentar. --Tone 10:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Can I get a comment from your side?

Hi. How is it going? Could I ask you for a comment since you can be neutral here. I am having some hard times with User:Gooddays. He is massively tagging article with unref and cleanup templates, although a great part of the articles are in fact referenced and do not require cleanup, at least not an obvious one. Any attempts to clear this out have been met with an reaction that I consider a rude provocation (or with blanking user talk). Can you have a look? Thanks. --Tone 13:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Good, and you guy? I think you have a well-intentioned new editor here. I did look over the articles he/she was tagging, and your right. Just a tad over the top there :-). I left a note on the user’s page. Hope it helps. ShoesssS Talk 14:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! I just thought I'd make a clarification on the talk page archiving thing. Users are allowed to remove any comments from their talk page. If a user removes a comment, it's best to just take it as acknowledgement of the post. Seraphim♥ Whipp 17:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, acknowledged. After all, it's all in the history that should not get deleted. --Tone 17:09, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Exactly :)! That's why I wasn't sure why the talk page was deleted, but I see that the deleting admin would have deleted a page called "old" not "talk page archive" and that would mislead. Seraphim♥ Whipp 17:12, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Magillem, can you help me

Why this page is being deleted again, can you help i don't understand? what is missing?

Thank you. Andre —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andretalierciom (talk • contribs) 17:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. This article was nominated for deletion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magillem. The problem asserted is that it does not meet guidelines for organizations, see WP:CORP. If you want the article back, you should nominate it on deletion review, not recreate it. I hope it helps. Regards. --Tone 17:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank but how do i do that?

thanks Andretalierciom (talk) 18:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that the article was deleted in the AfD process. A repost of deleted content qualifies for deletion automatically, unless you bring up new reasons. So the correct procedure is to nominate it at Wikipedia:Deletion review. You should go there and ask to reconsider the deletion of the article (provide strong arguments also). The whole process is explained there but feel free to ask me if anything is unclear. --Tone 18:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

ok, thank you, but we added external links and references, like press article etc.. this is not good? what is missing? Andretalierciom (talk) 18:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Tone, how can have a copy of my last page ? someone added references i did not know.

Thank you.

Got the copy, what do i do now, what is missing in the magillem page? I appreciate our time and help. seriously. Andretalierciom (talk) 18:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. Now, what you do is wait for comments of administrators monitoring the page and they will present there opinions. You can also go in a discussion there. --Tone 19:09, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion Review for Magillem

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Magillem. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Andretalierciom (talk) 18:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lemuria

Hi there. I noticed you were the one who deleted the Tales, Ale and Fire (album) by Lemuria after I put up the deletion proposal. For some reason though the talk page for the article still exists: Talk:Tales, Ale and Fire (album). Could you delete it as well? While you're at it, maybe speedy delete the now empty Category:Lemuria albums too. --Bardin (talk) 02:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. Greetings. --Tone 19:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Coaching and Slovene AFD's

Hey there Tone, I was coming by to see if there was any chance you might be willing/interested in picking up another admin coachee? User:Master_son looks like a candidate that only needs some fine tuning before going up for an RfA... he has over 14K edits and doesn't use a tool to get there.

But now that I am here, I have another question for you... one of my coachees stumbled across two Slovene related AFDs. It appears to me that a debate from Slovene Wikipedia has crossed boundaries to the Eng Wikipedia. As I can't read the sources or discussions elsewhere, I was wondering if you could take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Festival of New Songs and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zeus (band) and give us your unique insight on these articles and the debates that are occuring between the two users?Balloonman (talk) 06:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'll have a look at the AfD cases and contact User:Master_son. Probably today. I hope I can help. Greetings. --Tone 19:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, your input into those AfD's will be invaluable as you can better assess the articles in question.Balloonman (talk) 19:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Magillem

Hello Tone, got this message: Permit reinsertion I think the sources in the present userified article are sufficient to support it, or at least justify another AfD. DGG (talk) 14:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

What can be done from now? the page will be put back or has to be recreated? Thanks Andretalierciom (talk) 16:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Take it easy, the case is not closed yet ;-) After a couple of days, when the case closes, if the final result is reinsert, the closing admin will recreate the article and potentially put it to AfD or keep it as such. No need to hurry. --Tone 19:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Coaching

Hello Tone

I am still interested in coaching and thank you for the offer. I accept an look forward to learning from you.  — master sonT - C 23:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I need your help

Mr. Tone, I just realize that it is written in the article Kosovo: "Kosova" redirects here. For other uses, see Kosova (disambiguation). but that is not the case as when I type Kosova it does redirect me to "Kosova (disambiguation) and not to Kosovo". So I would appreciate your help, Sir. --Tubesship (talk) 08:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Let's wait for the discussion on the talkpage to develop, then we can fix all the links in a way everyone is fine with it. Don't worry, I won't forget. Greetings. --Tone 08:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Sir, thank you, Sir. --Tubesship (talk) 13:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AFD: hvala

Tone, hvala za komentarje. Ko smo že pri tem, predlagam, da si daš na spisek nadzorov stran Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Slovenia. Trenutno sem za brisanje predlagal kar nekaj mostov v Ljubljani. Mislim, da so za angleško Wikipedijo relevantni samo mostovi, ki so res nekaj posebnega in o katerih se da kaj več povedati (recimo Šuštarski most, Zmajski most, Tromostovje, Zapornica na Ljubljanici, Trnovski most), ne pa kar vsi, ki vodijo čez Ljubljanico ali Gradaščico. Lahko podaš svoje mnenje še tukaj? Sem mogoče predlagal kakšnega preveč? --Eleassar my talk 12:58, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: Tukaj se lepo vidi, zakaj je treba tudi pri kratkih člankih preveriti in navesti vire. Seznam člankov o mostovih čez Ljubljanico je bil še precej daljši, od tega so bili nekateri preprosto druga imena za mostove[20] [21] [22], spet drugi pa ne vodijo čez Ljubljanico, ampak čez Gradaščico. [23] [24]. Jekarski Bridge pa sploh ne obstaja (pravilno črkovano je Jeklarski most). Blofeld of SPECTRE je pač preprosto skopiral isto vsebino za vse mostove iz seznama slovenske Wikipedije. --Eleassar my talk 13:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi there Tone. In regards to this situation with Gooddays, you mentioned "all the users reported and almost all the articles tagged are connected to Slovenia. Just a curious remark". Have you had a major dispute with someone or encountered a user who has done this before? Because I find a number of things about this situation peculiar and I hear quacking. Seraphim♥ Whipp 00:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello Tone I hope you do not mind, but asked DGG to take a look at the situation and advice. Take care and remember spring is just right around the comer for you. Here it has already arrived :-). ShoesssS Talk 02:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I left some comments: see User talk:Shoessss. If Seraphim's question is relevant, please email me. DGG (talk) 03:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I just blocked for 2 hrs for gaming the system--details of latest variations on his talk page.. Future blocks will be considerably longer if it resumes (eg 31 hours). DGG (talk) 17:13, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gooddays

I've archived the AN thread for trolling. I just wish I could do something more about it, but people hate me for not being cheery enough... create another thread about him if he continues. Sceptre (talk) 20:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I've created a thread about his behaviour on AN, your comments are appreciated. Sceptre (talk) 00:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Appreciation

Tone, I want to commend you for your patient work in reverting all of the nonsense that this user & his sockpuppets have been adding. DGG (talk) 14:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Well, someone has to do it and despite these edits were provocative, this will lead to better sourcing of several articles. --Tone 14:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I will help you

I will help you, but how can I help when you are maken at start a wrong step. The first step must be logicel. The rest is not so importen, beacose is coming from the base. It is simpel, we havet 1 and now we have 0,7 + 0,3. All the time you are starting from logic 1+0,3 or 1. If we wount to hold the step with a time than we must work based in 0,7+0,3 logic, other ways everything is or behaind of time, or confuse. Belive me, this hase not to do with propagander but with locigel meaning.

If you wount to go with time, I´m with you other ways, I don´t wount to lose my time (I have a oot to do in Sq.Wikipedia). And if you wount I cane go a way from this project. The problem is thate I don´t let from the propagander´s do be buntit--Hipi Zhdripi (talk) 00:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Answer

See :User talk:Hipi Zhdripi#To Tony. If you want to work in this basement, it is good for the future of wikipedia (in fact this is realty that both states have a problem) and this it would help the people down there in Balkan and protecting the people from disinformation. They must work together for there interest's. We, here and they in Balkan can not go in future with propaganda. Or they are going to go to hell but not to the future. For the future I will help you for the hell, sorry I have see it, I don´t want to go back.--Hipi Zhdripi (talk) 03:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Upss! I know and I understand (without making joke) that is a shock for normal people of Serbia, but is not a hell how it was for the people in Kosovo.--Hipi Zhdripi (talk) 03:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] If you wount to work

If you wount to work to make POV Wikipedia. You have my support. You must talk with administrators of serbian wikipedia.--Hipi Zhdripi (talk) 04:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Upss!!! When they accept this here I am--Hipi Zhdripi (talk) 04:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tone, my man!

Let's get the intro done today. I'm around. Beam (talk) 17:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)