Talk:Tony Rice (American football)
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[edit] Proposition 48
I'm a little confused as to why "Proposition 48" is at all significant to this article. The article begins by saying that "Rice was one of the first (and few) Notre Dame players ever admitted under the NCAA rules of Proposition 48." Huh? Don't all athletes have to qualify under Prop. 48 in order to compete? What's so special about Rice in this regard?
Then the article goes to great lengths to explain what it is and what the qualifications are, only to reveal at the end that Rice did not qualify for Proposition 48, and therefore had to sit out his freshman year just like everybody else. So, isn't it a contradiction to say that he "was admitted" under Prop. 48 if he actually, y'know, wasn't???
The only thing that would make sense is if the writer meant to say that Rice was the first ND player to be disqualified under Prop. 48. But that's the exact opposite of what they actually wrote. -- Trowbridge (talk) 22:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Following up on my previous comment, I read the referenced Sports Illustrated artice, which I believe may be the source of much of the confusion.
First of all, SI is a notoriously innacurate source. It's more like a tabloid than a legitimate sports magazine. And this article in particular contains a few factual errors, including the claim that Rice was "the first black full-time starting quarterback for Notre Dame." That would actually be Cliff Brown in 1971.
But it's the following quote that makes no sense: "But Tony Rice was more than an ethnic pioneer. He was an academic pilgrim as well, the university's first Prop 48 student-athlete." As I explained before, all student-athletes from 1986 onward who played as freshmen were "Prop 48 student-athletes"—a fact that seems lost upon this writer. And since Rice was in fact disqualified under Prop 48, the fact remains that he wasn't the first, nor was he ever, a Prop 48 athlete.
In light of the preceding data, I am revising the article. -- Trowbridge (talk) 14:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Arch-rival Miami??
"Michigan, USC, and arch-rival Miami"??
USC is Notre Dame's arch-rival. And, at least nowadays, Michigan is its second-biggest rival. Maybe that wasn't the case in 1988, I'm not sure, but certainly USC was always the team's #1 rival. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.141.68.2 (talk) 14:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. Granted, ND-Miami was a huge rivalry in the 1980s, but USC has unquestionably been the "arch-rival" of ND since the 1920s. —Trowbridge (talk) 18:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
