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[edit] Daily anonymous IP POV edits to Israel section

A (probably vain) effort to forestall the near-daily anonymous POV interpolations, which are mostly variations on the following (italicized, bolded text denotes common POV interpolations):


  • According speculation described in the Washington Post, the ADL and and AJC had complained to Polish consul Krzysztof Kasprzyk that Judt was "too critical of Israel and American Jewry...":What the article says is,
'Two major American Jewish organizations helped block a prominent New York University historian from speaking at the Polish consulate here last week, saying the academic was too critical of Israel and American Jewry.'
Without grounds to question the accuracy of the report, calling it speculation is POV. "According to the Washington Post" will suffice. Moreover, the second half of the sentence -- "though both organizations deny asking that the talk be cancelled, ADL National Chairman Abraham Foxman calling Judt's claims of interference 'wild conspiracy theories'" -- provides adequate balance.
  • 'Judt ... called the implications of the cancellation "serious and frightening" but the Polish consulate asserted that it was not subject to the American first amendment.'
Can anyone tell me in what context or forum -- press release, interview, press conference? -- the Polish consulate made this assertion, and in what publication it was reported? I have seen no statement to this effect in any news report. It seems to me unlikely that the consulate would make any such statement, because the cancellation of a talk by a private party does not touch on any issue related to the First Amendment. No one connected with the affair has, in any published report I have seen, made any claim that anyone's First Amendment rights were being abridged, presumably because they knew the issue was not relevant.
  • 'Judt remarked that "only in America -- not in Israel -- is this a problem," thus speaking as if the Polish consulate were on American rather than Polish soil.'
I presume this is an attempt to pose the question questio quid juris, but I think the poster has misunderstood the issue. I don't know whether a consulate is, like an embassy, considered foreign territory, but it wouldn't make any difference even if it were: there's no question of which law prevails, because there's no issue of law involved. The "problem" Judt is referring to is an alleged campaign by those who consider themselves 'pro-Israel' to stifle debate on controversial Israeli policies. No one has claimed cancelling the talk violated any law -- American, Polish, divine or otherwise.
  • 'Judt went on to object to those who discourage foreign governments from sponsoring his talks'
This is a simple inaccuracy: the "Polish government" did not "sponsor" the talk: the Polish consulate in New York rented or provided a conference room to a private organization, Network 20/20, in which to hold the talk, and then withdrew their offer.

I presume these edits are being made by the same user. Coming out of the shadows by getting a user account and then discussing your concerns in an open forum would be better than spending time on edits that get reverted ten minutes later.

--Rrburke 12:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

If there are many attempts in a short period of time just request semi-page protection to prevent editing from IP users. This will force the user to get an account or stop. --Deodar 16:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NYT Magazine article on Tony Judt and Abe Foxman

Could be integrated into the article as it covers the subject at hand:

--70.48.240.99 18:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paragraph starting with "Highly respected in the United States.." would benefit from being rewritten

The NY Times quote is interesting but does not fit in with the flow of the text. Furthermore, the initial statement is not substantiated. I removed the paragraph that followed which seemed to argue against Judt's point of view. A reference to an article/s outlining an alternative point of view or to a discussion on that topic would seem to be more appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darren Kavanagh (talk • contribs) 20:58, 30 May 2008 (UTC)