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What was the "unsporting run out" mentioned? Seems silly to make mention of something but provide no details! --Plattopus 19:06, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

Helping Kerry Packer establish World Series Cricket was a lot more daring than a run out! jguk 19:33, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Indeed, but since it's deemed important enough to warrant a mention on the page, I think it might be a good idea to actually explain it. I would do it, but I have no idea what the run out in question actually is! --Plattopus 12:00, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

It's before my time too. There is this, which states:

In 1973/4 Tony Greig toured the West Indies with England and showed the entire cricket world what he was capable of. His sensational record of 430 runs and 24 wickets in 5 tests contained a string of breathtaking performances.

His first contribution to the series, however, was to spark a controversy that set the tone for this volatile all-rounder. Greig bowled the last ball of the day to Julien who played it back down the pitch. Alvin Kallicharan, the non-striker saw Greig field the ball and walked off towards the dressing room. Impetuously Greig threw the ball at the stumps and appealed for a run out. The appeal was upheld and the uproar started. After many hurried conversations England withdrew the appeal, much to Greig's annoyance.

I don't have much time at the immediate present, but something along these lines ought to be added, jguk 12:54, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I added a section on this, mostly gleaned from the account in Rae's book. I'm not sure I wrote it very well, but I think all the facts are there. --Deville 14:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maybe a statement (or link) to avoid confusion, especially for non-Commonwealth readers?

Both Greig and Denness were actually Scottish (O the irony...). Possibly something in the text should briefly mention the unusual qualification arrangements in international cricket to avoid confusion for readers not familiar with the system?Badgerpatrol 09:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC) Tony Grieg does not like the Austrailai team,. I belive that he is byast to the South Africans and the Engllish when he commentates.

[edit] Near death from Greig's bowling

Could somebody please supply details of the incident in, I am sure it was, New Zealand where Greig was bowling and the ball unexpectedly rose very steeply and hit the batsman in the throat, nearly killing him. This incident had a great bearing on Greig's later work promoting the use of batsmen's helmets and, especially the addition of face and throat guards. Also mention should be made of batsman Greig's appearance at the wicket wearing a motorcycle helmet (and, even, perhaps, Bishan Bedi's turban at the World XI match at the M.C.G.). It would seem that the Greig and safety gear aspect is an important issue relating to Greig and his career that should be completed and included by someone with a good knowledge of such things.Lindsay658 06:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Are you thinking about Graeme Watson in a match for Rest of the World in 1971-72. A beamer by Greig hit Watson on the nose. He lost a large amount of blood and had to undergo transfusion. Tintin 10:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

No, that is not the incident I was thinking of -- in fact, I was at the M.C.G. for each magnificent day of the match you refer to, so I can be very certain that what I am referring to was at some other time and some other location (and, moreover, I have not confused it with the incident where Rick McCosker has his jaw broken, also at the M.C.G.). As I remember the incident (which I saw on TV, rather than in person), Tony Greig was bowling and, from his enormous height he had delivered a rather fast ball to somewhere near the batsman's feet and, for some extraordinary reason, the ball came off the pitch almost vertically and struck the batsman in the windpipe. I can't remember whether it was during his time with "official" cricket or his time with "Packer" cricket, nor can I remember whether it was one-day cricket or "longer" cricket, but I do have a strong feeling that the batsman was Kiwi, and I am fairly certain that Greig was the bowler.Lindsay658 00:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

1st Test NZ v England Auckland 1974-75. Batsman was Ewan Chatfield (a specialist no 11) who was struck by a bouncer from Peter Lever. Chatfield swallowed his tongue and was revived by the England physio Bernie Thomas as his heart stopped for a moment and he couldn't breath. See: [1]. BTW, Grieg started the bouncer war in the 1974-75 series when he let Dennis Lillee have one in the 1st Test at Brisbane.Phanto282 15:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)