Talk:Tongue-twister

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[edit] Gulping sound

The "gulping sound" is the sound denoted by [q'] in the table. -phma

[edit] Liberty Lobby

There was an important court case some years back (1986 in the U.S. Supreme Court) that is referred to as "Liberty Lobby." For some reason, everyone I know who has to refer to it (including me) tends to slip and say "Liberty Lobbety." Does anyone know what it is about this combination of sounds that makes it a tongue-twister? It's driving us nuts. -- isis 07:43 Dec 3, 2002 (UTC)

I guess I'd consider that a tongue twister, if read fast (like "toy boat," "unique New York," etc.). I don't think it necessarily should be included in the article, thoughEebster the Great (talk) 22:18, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed section

I have just reinstated a large part of the article which was removed by 203.160.182.144 at 06:05 on 10th November 2002, without explanation either in the edit summary or in this Talk page. Was there any reason for its removal? -- Oliver PEREIRA 22:41 Dec 3, 2002 (UTC)

[edit] Why Polish?

why a polish tounge twister?? [maestro] 09:07, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Because it's important to note that English is not the only language with tongue twisters. • Benc • 21:44, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

by the way, "stół z powyłamywanymi nogami" doesn't excatly mean "table with broken legs", coz "powyłamywane" means "broken out" (or smthn like this :). It should be rather "table with legs broken out" (the first version should be translate to "stół z połamanymi nogami" and that is NOT a tongue-twister ;) http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wilqw3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.117.172.189 (talk) 17:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese text

Can someone do something about the long passage of Chinese text? It is so long in plain text that it is hard to view past edits... can it be broken up into a few lines but still look the same? Anyone? Also, I believe "drucken" soldier should be "drunken" soldier, but I don't read Mandarin. Anyone want to change it? --Dante Alighieri 22:52 Dec 3, 2002 (UTC)

[edit] Link suggestion

Hi, i wish to add a url for a dutch weblog/tongue twister database: http://www.tongbrekers.nl/ The site is totally devoted to it and will expand quite rapidly. 'Tongbreker' is the Dutch word for 'tongue twister' btw. I don't want to spam you, so i'll ask permission to place the link here first :) Thnx in advance, Ramon Eijkemans. p.s.: i would format the link as follows: Dutch weblog and tongue twister database or sth like that.

Update: i've added the link. Feel free to comment, update or even remove (though ofcourse i wouldn't want that :( )

Looks good to me. Λυδαcιτγ 01:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I remembered a list of tongue twisters that used to exist here at Wikipedia. It's now found at wikiquote: List of tongue-twisters --Emheryok 17:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes; it's already linked to at the bottom of the page. Λυδαcιτγ 18:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Better selection of tongue twisters

Why does this page make a big deal of the vulgar tongue twisters? I suppose it's fine to have those, but I'd like to see a list of better-known ones (similar to Peter Piper, but a larger selection) --Emheryok 17:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to copy a couple over from Wikiquote. Λυδαcιτγ 19:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup needed

This article could use some clean-up. As stated above, it could use different tongue twisters. Mostly, this means a more varied selection, though as one can tell, currently they consist of mostly vulgar ones. While wikipedia is NOT censored, there is no particular purpose for having one, let alone so many, vulgar twisters. —ScouterSig 19:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I think you're request is more for expansion than cleanup, so I changed the tag to the former.
You may find wikiquote:List of tongue-twisters helpful in replacing these messages with better ones. Λυδαcιτγ 22:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Betty Botter

Each person wants to use the version they remember from when they were a kid. But what they remember is a paraphrase rather than a quotation. Citing an external reference does not solve the problem, because the person who wrote the www.mamalisa.com reference wrote a paraphrase cluttered with extraneous words such as "she said", "twas", "put in", and "my" which do not contribute tongue-twister words. What we need is the original poem which was created long before 1950 when it was titled "Betty Barter" rather than "Betty Botter". But since hardly anybody calls it that now, I will concede that the title is now "Betty Botter". However, I will revert any changes that add extraneous words, until somebody produces a children's book from more than a half century ago that printed the original. Greensburger (talk) 06:10, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advertising

McDonald's used the rapidly spoken "Two all-beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame-seed bun" in early Big Mac commercials. NBK1122 (talk) 08:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

But that's not a tongue twister. That's just a long list of ingredients red fast. That would certainly belong in an article on speed speaking, but not in the tongue twister article.Eebster the Great (talk) 22:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

In the early 60s a dance program on TV invited kids to win a "Long Life Lite Ballpoint Pen," if they could say that. I would have preferred Alka-Seltzer, "Effervescent Analgesic Alkalizing Tablets."Dougie monty (talk) 05:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)