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[edit] IRA Abwehr WW2

Hello, Barry had liasons with German intelligence leading to the "barry plan". Some details IRA Abwehr World War II Fluffy999 18:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

1 year later still not in the article? Details on Nazi links are here and Barry Plan/S-Plan dispute -> [1] Fluffy999 20:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kilmichael Ambush

I added some more pictures that I took from Crossbarry and Kilmichael last month. Kilmichael defintely deserves its own article. The controversy that Peter Hart has created about it is exceptional even for Irish history debates. It has been raging for years with Brian Murphy, Peter Hart and of course Meda Ryan three of the chief parties to it. Indymedia is riddled with this often nasty debate. These letters from History Ireland might give some idea as to who is winning/has won(?) this: http://www.historyireland.com/magazine/features/13.5FeatC.html El Gringo 15:27, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Birthplace

Meda Ryan in her book Tom Barry - IRA Freedom Fighter states that Tom Barry was born in Killorglin, Co. Kerry and in fact did not move with his family to his parent's native Rosscarbery, Co. Cork until he was 10 years old. Yet this Wikipedia entry states he was born in Rosscarbery and most people I have spoken to believe that this is the case. In his own book Guerilla Days in Ireland Barry does not deal with his early life and starts the story during his service in Mesopotamia (Iraq)? Can anyone verify the truth of the situation regarding his birthplace? Coolavokig 18:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tom barry gdii.jpg

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BetacommandBot 23:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tom barry gdii.jpg

Image:Tom barry gdii.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 16:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tom barry gdii.jpg

Image:Tom barry gdii.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 08:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of song for copyright and other reasons

I've removed the text of the song written by Bobby Sands in memory of Tom Barry, for two reasons. The first reason is copyright: the source provided (http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/hstrike/sands/sands81.htm) clearly states that (emphasis mine):

"These extracts are included on the CAIN site by permission of the publishers. You may not edit, adapt, or redistribute changed versions of this for other than your personal use without the express written permission of the publishers, Sinn Féin Publicity Department. Redistribution for commercial purposes is not permitted."

Secondly, it is debatable whether encyclopaedia articles should contain complete texts of songs written in people's honour. WP:NOT suggests that Wikisource is the place for complete source texts. For example, there is an article about the song Christ the Lord Is Risen Today on Wikipedia, while the text of the song itself is on Wikisource.--Damac (talk) 20:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)