Talk:Tom (Lost)

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[edit] Delete?

? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hippi ippi (talk • contribs) 10:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC). (Dont worry about this) — hippi ippi++++ 09:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In-Universe

So, what is wrong with the article and how do we fix it? It even has a lead, unlike many of the Lost character pages. --thedemonhog talk contributions 00:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Needs more out-of-universe information. We probably have some interviews and other such stuff to get that kind of information from. I'll see what I can dig up. -- Ned Scott 01:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Isabel?

In his "position" in the hierarchy section, he is subordinate to "Isabel" which links to a page about the others, which does not mention the name Isabel. TheHYPO 15:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

It used to. I guess Isabel should be linked to Stranger in a Strange Land (Lost). --thedemonhog talk • edits • count 01:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Triva problem

I really have no idea what to do with this

  • M.C Gainey's portrayal as Tom has received quite a large fanbase, with his most famous quote being "You got yourself a fish biscuit! How'd you do that?"

Any ideas?(Black Dalek 18:33, 6 June 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Appearances

What is wrong with the Appearances section for it to be removed? It's an easy way of showing which episodes Tom is in.(Zeldanum1 22 December 2007) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.31.87 (talk) 01:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tom (Lost).PNG

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BetacommandBot 18:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Y Done –thedemonhog talk • edits • box 04:20, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mr. Friendly

It is stated in the article that he was never called "Mr Friendly" on-screen, but I remember clearly that someone did, I believe in one of the four last episodes of the Season three. I think it was Sawyer (surprise, surprise), I'll see if I can check that up. Arny (talk) 09:41, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

He continued to be called "Mr. Friendly" in closed captioning but never in dialogue. –thedemonhog talk • edits 09:43, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beginning of the End appearance?

Anyone else see his blink-and-you-miss-it dead body in the quick shot of Juliet digging at the beach? His head is clearly visible poking out of a blanket behind her. Can this be added as a (albeit uncredited) appearance? Tphi (talk) 11:44, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure. –thedemonhog talk • edits 16:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gay cat

Just because he was gay doesn't mean he belongs in the Category:Fictional gay men. Unless it's notable for some reason, the category isn't serving any purpose. See WP:OVERCAT. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 15:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

My understanding about reading WP:OVERCAT was about making overtly broad category definitions. I.E "Horror writers who eat broccoli" or some such thing. It never said to remove existing categories from valid articles if said category was accurate.--CyberGhostface (talk) 15:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
OVERCAT also applies to putting categories on an article when the classifications don't play a significant role in the article. We don't put Category:Fictional gamblers on every character that rolls some dice. We don't put Category:Fictional orphans on every character who's parents have died. Only if it plays a significant part in the character's development or back-story or is in some way important. In this article, we only find out he's gay in season four, and evidently it hasn't played a big part in either the character's development or in the storyline. Is there a reason for the cat that I'm missing? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 19:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, we found out he was gay in Season 4. He only really appeared in the third season (having some cameos in Season 2) which hinted at him being gay and it was revealed that he was in fact gay in Season 4. Nothing on OVERCAT says to remove valid categories from existing articles. They just don't want trivial categories to exist. Just because his sexuality isn't the driving focus behind his character doesn't make the classification any less valid.
And if anything, the character is undercategorized.--CyberGhostface (talk) 23:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with CyberGhostface and I have added a paragraph to the article in the "behind the scenes" section. –thedemonhog talk • edits 01:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Should we add him to Category:Fictional left-handers, Category:Fictional blue-eyed men and Category:Fictional gamblers? That's what I mean by overcategorization. There's no reason to put him in a cat if it's not a significant part of the character's development. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 06:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
"Fictional blue-eyed men" isn't a valid category. "Fictional gay men" is. There's nothing to suggest that valid categories should be removed from articles if the category is accurate for the article.--CyberGhostface (talk) 12:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
You've missed my point. The simple fact that he is gay is not enough to put him in the category. It has to be significant to the character or the show. TheDemonHog has added some good material that explains that situation, so I agree with the cat. Thanks, -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 22:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)