Talk:Tole Mour

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The second paragraph comes off as a bit flowery for an encyclopedia. Is there a reference that shows all other tall ships on the West Coast engage in mock battles (Could be Hollywood, I suppose....)? I'm pretty sure the Star of India (ship) isn't even armed. The present References section seems like it should be "See Also"--J Clear 15:01, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

actually, the star does have some canon, but she's not a working ship but a static museum display that gets turned around once a year. most working west coast tall ships do engage in canon battles to supplement their income, the exceptions being the two research vessels, tole mour and robert c. seamans.

Minor nit: USS Constitution gets "turned around once a year" by tug boats. As I understand it, Star of India actually goes out and sails every year. "Active" is a relative term. Have some respect for your elders. ;-) --J Clear 13:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

ok. the canon are a recent addition. they got them this year. as for "working", the generally accepted definition of "working" in the sailing industry is one that actively sails, employs liveabord crew paid to sail her and who's primary function is to sail, not a boat maintained as a museum ship. while i have the upmost respect for the star, the constitution, balclutha, falls of clyde, et. al, their primary function is as a static display. a yearly turn around, whether under it's own power or by tug is still just a turn around. i do get excited every time the star and the constitution go out. unfortunately, using the term "working" or "active" in regards to either of these vessels is a serious strech of the imagination. 70.36.210.211 23:54, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, the Tole Mour doesn't engage in paid battles to supplement income, but she does have a small (~2 ft long) cannon that she fires for fun sometimes. I was aboard the Tole last week, and we exchanged shots with the Exy Johnson, and also fired a shot to wake up the camp at Toyon Bay, Catalina. --Ohazi 06:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)