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[edit] Re: Sankebetsu brown bear incident

Thanks for your comment. I hope you don't mind my somewhat ruthless rewriting. Unfortunately I don't know if I'll have enough time to do the whole article. Good luck with this interesting story. I recommend providing links to a few sources though, if you can find any.Astarica 15:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Romanization

Before creating any more new articles in the English Wikipedia or doing any extensive editing to existing articles, please carefully study the conventions for writing Japanese words in English. For example, you created an article titled Tokyo-daigaku sougoh kenkyu-jyo Hakubutｓukann Koishikawa bunninn. In this romanization, you mark the long /o/ vowel in two different ways (ou and oh), you don't mark the long /u/ in kenkyu, you use a zenkaku s in the middle of Hakubutsukann, and you use the nonstandard double nn for ん. Such inconsistencies and mistakes make your articles practically useless and very time-consuming to fix. Please read and study the articles Romanization of Japanese, Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles), and the articles linked from those, and examine carefully other articles on Japan-related topics to get a better idea of how Japanese words and names are handled in Wikipedia. よろしくお願いします。 Tomgally 00:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks you.
I appreciate your pointing out my mistake.
Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.　 Kochirakoso yoroshiku onegaishimasu「こちらこそよろしくおねがいします」Tokyo Watcher 03:06, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I have a different opinion on this matter. Please read ja:ノート:ローマ字論#擴張ヘボン式. Kmns tsw 10:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shippai Gakkai

A tag has been placed on Shippai Gakkai, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because it is an article about a certain website, blog, forum, or other web content that does not assert the importance or significance of that web location. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles, as well as notability guidelines for websites. Please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources which verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on Talk:Shippai Gakkai. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. SkierRMH 02:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks you.
I attempt to review about this matter.Tokyo Watcher

[edit] Interwiki links

Please stop adding Japanese interwiki links to articles like Tohoku University. The people listed in that article already have their own English Wikipedia entries, and the Japanese wikipedia link is on that page.

Wikipedia:Interlanguage links says that

Ordinary interlanguage links are only suitable for linking to a corresponding page in another language. However, if a topic does not have its own page in the English Wikipedia, but has in another language version of Wikipedia, then linking to that is useful, from a page that mentions the topic, and/or covers a more general topic.

And, WP:MOS-JA says

do not provide the Japanese for any Japanese term that is linked to an article containing the Japanese for that term.

So, for example in Tohoku University, adding a link to the Japanese wikipedia for Koji Azuma is acceptable, because there is currently no article on him in the English wikipedia. But, adding kanji or the interwiki links for Koichi Tanaka or Jun-Ichi Nishizawa is against both of the two policies above. Regards. Neier 23:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

>>Do not repeat the Japanese for that term in the article. >>
It forbit "repeat" but not prohibit to write Japanese link, isn' it?.Tokyo Watcher 02:29, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

if a topic does not have its own page in the English Wikipedia, but has in another language version of Wikipedia, then linking to that is useful, from a page that mentions the topic, and/or covers a more general topic. For example>

I interpret above-mentioned sentences as follows. It is not forbitten link to another language. You understood your idea but I am not agree. I don't attach to your expectations and feel sorry.Tokyo Watcher 02:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Please understand what is meant by corresponding page in Wikipedia:Interlanguage links. It means, ONLY the article for the same title (so, the corresponding page of en:Tohoku University is ja:東北大学. For other pages (not corresponding pages), this applies: However, if a topic does not have its own page in the English Wikipedia, but has in another language version of Wikipedia, then linking to that is useful, from a page that mentions the topic, and/or covers a more general topic. If the topic (like a person) has its own article, then the interlanguage link should not be added to any other page -- just the main page.
Also, in the WP:MOS-JA, the first sentence says In a narrative article, provide the Japanese script for the subject of that article when first introducing it (ideally in the first line of the article).
Then, the next sentence follows: Do not repeat the Japanese for that term in the article.
So it means, in an article like Tohoku University, the kanji 東北大学 should be introduced at the beginning (that is the first sentence for the subject of that article), but, there is no point to write 東北大学 again in the article. It does not mean anything for kanji in the rest of the article.
For kanji of places or people mentioned inside an article, having Japanese is a distraction. That is why the WP:MOS-JA says However, do not provide the Japanese for any Japanese term that is linked to an article containing the Japanese for that term. With Wikipedia, if the reader is interested to know more details about something (including the kanji of a person's name), then, they can click the link and find out more.
If you disagree with this, then please ask at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) for other opinions. そのページで、日本語でもいい。 Many people on that discussion page can answer your questions in Japanese too. Neier 04:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi dear Neier!
I understood your claim.However, I am not in the step which can agree your claim at the time of now. Wiki doesn't prohibit the link of the foreign language using the character of the foreign language, and managed according to the rule. I wish to show you the rule which supports your claim.Tokyo Watcher

[edit] Hi dear Neier!

I understood your claim.However, I am not in the step which can agree your claim at the time of now. Wiki doesn't prohibit the link of the foreign language using the character of the foreign language, and managed according to the rule. I wish to show you the rule which supports your claim.Tokyo Watcher

WP:MOS-JA, which rules the format for any Japanese-subject articles, says However, do not provide the Japanese for any Japanese term that is linked to an article containing the Japanese for that term. In other words, in Tohoku University do not provide Japanese for Koichi Tanaka or Jun-Ichi Nishizawa, or for Hokkaido University either. Currently, you could add the Japanese kanji for Koji Azuma, as there is no article for him yet; but, once he has an English article with his kanji correctly displayed, then it should be deleted from the Tohoku University page too. That is the rule which supports my claim. Neier 13:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Tokyo Watcherさんの書込みの中二つの問題があった：
  1. 日本語名の使い方
  2. 日本語ウィキペディアへの参照方
基本的に英語のウィキペディアで日本語名（漢字・ひらがな・カタカナで書いている名前）の利用はその名前が表しているモノのページに限定している。ただ、そのモノの英語ウィキペディア・ページがない場合のみ、日本語名をモノを参照するページに書いてもいい。
同じく日本語ウィキペディア・ページへの参照は基本的に該当のモノのページに限定されて、その英語ウィキペディ・ページがない場合のみ参照するページに入れてもいい。
だから、Tokyo Walkerさんがもともと"Tohoku University"での田中耕一についての書込みでは、"Koichi Tanaka"という英語ウィキペディア・ページが既にあって、その中日本語名と日本語ウィキペディアへのリングがあったため、それぞれを東北大学の英語ページに入れることがルール違反だった。逆に、"Koji Azuma"という英語ページがないため、東北大学のページに彼の日本語名と日本語ウィキペディアへのリンクを入れたら問題ない。
--Meyer 08:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maintenance tags remain at the top of articles.

The next time you revert and put maintenance tags where they should not be, or remove them without fixing the problem, you will be blocked. Period. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi! Jeffrey see your page.12:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stop disrupting articles

I ask you why I returnan article violently.Tokyo Watcher 23:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

My changes to many of the articles you created were to bring them in line with the Manual of Style, and to clean them up. Many of the articles contained gratuitous Japanese (this is the English Wikipedia, after all), were difficult to read, and in some cases had hideous grammar and spelling to the point of utter incomprehensibility. My edits were within policy and greatly benefitted each and every one of those articles, your reverts are in violation of policy, and are bordering on vandalism and disruption. Keep it up and I will block you. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)！.Tokyo Watcher

Yup. Read it twice. And there was still too much Japanese in the articles. In addition, my removal of the Japanese played a very small part in the cleanup of the articles, which had other problems as outlined on your talk page. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Does the rule exist about the frequency which uses Japane？ Tokyo Watcher

Yes and no. What I'm using is Common Sense, and a basic understanding of proper article construction and, apparently, the English Language. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

OH, will Block is not me but you. I see your block log[1] , you have many previous convictions, aren't you?Tokyo Watcher

No,　Wiki is based on the rule, you are mistake. I see your block log[2], you have many previous convictions, I think that you aren't suitable to rewrite others article, please resign from a trickTokyo Watcher.

Ignoring the parts of the above I cannot understand, I will point out that they are not your articles (WP:OWN) and I will edit what I please. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand you refuse a conversation, isn't it.Why don't you show the attitude of the reconsideration? Tokyo Watcher

Refusing a conversation? I think I have clearly explained what my reasoning is. Your inability to understand it is not a refusal. So why don't you do something more productive than pestering me with your incomprehensible ramblings. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

　Blocking you is not me but by the administrator. Stop emotional reaction.Tokyo Watcher

[edit] Final Warning

This is your final warning. Your edits are disruptive and border on vandalism. Stop reverting articles to their prior, pre-cleaned up states (i.e. unreadable, poorly written, incomprehensible). --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 03:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

You erased my description.[3] This is an important forbidden act.
I contact a administrator if you don't answer a conversation and continue destructive act.Tokyo Watcher

Sigh... again... it is above. All I did was move the conversation. Don't hide it and accuse me of getting rid of it, that's not a very bright move. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

I gave you quite a bit of warning. I have been fairly patient with you. You have continued to revert to pre-cleanup states (poorly written, and incomprehensible) essentially vandalizing the articles in question. You have been blocked as a result. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stop

  • Why don't you go and ask some Japanese editors with a better command of English about your problems and leave the impressively patient Mr Gustafson alone? I really feel you're wasting his time with this, and will block you for disruption if you continue. Deiz talk 15:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yaoya Ohichi

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Thanks you.
In Japanese pronunciation for number 7 is shichi and hichi. There are many readings to one kanji. Therefore, I think the kanji must be written down in the English sentence.Tokyo Watcher 11:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I added several references for information in the article. If you have further references, please use the existing references format. Thanks! ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:33, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your photo, Image:八百屋お七の墓.JPG, has been moved to Commons

As you uploaded it under GFDL, this image has been moved to commons:Image:Grave of Yaoya Oshichi.jpg. If you wish to upload other GFDL images, you are encouraged to do so at commons.wikimedia.org so that the images can be more easily shared among all Wikimedia projects. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Japan-related edits

I would advise you not to contact Jeffrey O. Gustafson regarding Japan-related edits. If he deems that displaying kanji for secondary items mentioned in an article is unecessary and you disagree, from past experience you should undersand that this is a "content dispute" that you are unlikely to resolve from contacting him or inviting arguments on talk pages. Instead, consider contacting other editors with an interest in Japan articles, User:Nihonjoe for example, who is a highly experienced editor and administrator. I'm sure Jeffrey will be happy to respect any input from Nihonjoe in such matters. Deiz talk 02:51, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Dated cleanup tags

Hi, thanks for your message, SmackBot does not generally add tags, but merely dates those that are already there. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 12:15 15 August 2007 (GMT). [4] [5]

[edit] "Japanese woman" category

Hi. I suggest you rename the category Japanese women in the plural as per WP:NCCAT before adding any more articles to it. --DAJF 06:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Or, even better, just use the existing category: Cat:Japanese women. Neier 07:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I belatedly discovered that Cat:Japanese women should not be used for individual articles, so I have used Cat:Japanese people unless more specific (e.g. occupation-related) categories already exist for the articles originally assigned to Cat:Japanese woman. I propose to tag Cat:Japanese woman for speedy deletion once it has been left empty for a few days. --DAJF 09:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Sankebetsu brown bear incident

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