Talk:Tohono O'odham

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Where on earth did the following statement come from:

"...Rather than await the "quick fix" diabetes cure, which medical authorities have promised to develop for 30 years..."

Statements like this do not inspire confidence in the data presented. Is there a reference to the "medical authorities" promising to develop a "quick fix diabetes cure"???


Made typo correction (the word 'under' was typed twice in a row) --fixman88 23:49, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)


It would be nice to include an image by Mike Chiago and/or Leonard Chana (I just added a paragraph on their work), but copyright issues probably make it impossible (they would have to be licensed properly for use on Wikipedia) --Dsewell 01:24, 30 July 2005 (UTC)



NPOV is needed in this article. Also, many items are cited as "fact" that are unverified or unverifiable. It is perhaps insensitive to say this, but the article is often more polemic than instructive. "Where does the number 25,000 come from?" "Where is the 52-year life expectancy referenced?" "'It is said' that additional funds would help - by whom? And with what relevance?"

Simply because there is a bitter history is not a good reason not to give sources of verification: if anything it is a very good reason to give irrefutable evidence and to keep the claims completely verifiable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.60.159.10 (talkcontribs) 20:15, 26 September 2006.

It would be more helpful if you could identify which parts of the post display a particular POV and could flag those items which you found objectionable, using (for example) {{fact}}. --Kynn 19:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

A previous edit claimed that many on the reservation were involved in and profiting from illegal drug trafficking and the smuggling of undocumented ("illegal") immigrants. In response to a citation request, they cited David Kelly's LA Times article "Illegal Traffic Disrupts Reservation in Arizona." An incorrect web address was given for this in the citation section. I tracked down the article, which should be able to accessed at this [[1]]

However, there is absolutely NO REFERENCE in this article to the possibility that reservation residents are profiting from or actively involved in either drug trade or illegal immigration enterprises. Instead, the article consistently demonstrates reservation residents as opposed and irritated by both practices. I have no doubt that there may in fact be individuals on the reservation (like anywhere else) who choose to become involved in illegal enterprises, but David Kelly's article is a lousy source for this. If you want to insist on this point, you need to find a decent source which actually supports this, or else leave it out.Erik.w.davis 20:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

The statement "In addition, there is a one-time monetary distribution to each Tohono O'odham upon reaching 18 years of age. The one-time distribution (called "the Thou" from the fact that at one point it was one thousand dollars) is presently $2,000 and is from the United States government in satisfaction of treaty obligations with the tribe" has no refrence work cited. What treaty is the writer refering to. Unsupoported statements such as these perpetuate the thought that Native Americans are living off of the government.---Julturney (talk) 15:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)