Talk:Todd Manning

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Todd Manning was a Arts good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: June 9, 2008

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A fact from Todd Manning appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 1 September 2007.

Contents 1 March 24, 2007 dispute 2 Resolution of dispute 2.1 Votes 3 Gave this article an overhaul 4 Rape victim? 5 Article is a few tweaks away from GA 6 GA Review

[edit] March 24, 2007 dispute

I have archived the lengthy March 24, 2007 dispute here: Talk:Todd Manning/Archive1. The resolution is below. TAnthony 19:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Resolution of dispute

OK, this article will never be unblocked if this continues. Allow me to suggest some edits and everyone can agree or disagree with a simple Yes or No vote and perhaps some notes. Then someone can request the unblock and the edits can be implemented. I suggest:

• Courtship/Affairs heading be renamed "Romantic Entanglements"
• Evangeline be added
• Marty remains in this section, but the note (pre-rape) be added after her entry
• Everything else pretty much stays as-is.

I agree but can there be a way to stop stuff like this from happening? It makes Wikipedia look bad and untrustworthy, like a moderator can only protect a page, because if people protect a page with vandalism there that is insane.--Migospia 02:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

The page was protected to stop the edit war, and there is a clear note in the protection template that states that the protected version is not necessarily the "correct" one. It could have easily been your version that became locked. If it had been blatant vandalism or profanity, it would not have been kept as is, but it was really just a difference of opinion about a minor point. I think the current system works fine. TAnthony 19:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Votes

Please, no further inflammatory talk and accusations:

• Agree TAnthony 01:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
• Agree --Migospia 02:13, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
• Agree—The Real One Returns 02:25, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

We all seem to agree, when is the change going to take place?--Migospia 04:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I got the article unprotected, and made the edits. TAnthony 19:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gave this article an overhaul

• I have given this article an overhaul. It now provides signifcant real-world context, in the form of character creation, writing, and cultural impact. Flyer22 09:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rape victim?

Why is Todd in the "Fictonal rape victims" category? I remember during his trial in '98 or '99 he alledged sexual abuse by Peter Manning, but he later admitted he lied. Evernut 17:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

He was help captive and raped by Margaret Cochran a couple of years ago, which is how she got pregnant with his baby. — TAnthony^Talk 18:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

You know, Todd never admitted that he lied about the sexual abuse of Peter Manning. It was left as though it seemingly did happen to Todd. He admitted to faking split-personalities, sure. But when Sam Rappaport asked Todd (in a pained way) if it was true that Peter Manning did that to him, Todd, in a hesitant reply (after Sam pressed him further on the matter, and Todd said that it didn't, which seemed to be more about easing Sam's mindset), said, "The truth is a lie and the lie is the truth." And Sam didn't press after that, and they hugged each other, all emotional, as Sam called Todd Boomer (his nickname for Todd), and Todd had tears in his eyes, then left for his plane. Even after that, while Todd was on the plane in his own section by himself, he hallucinated the split-personalities he had made up, and Viki, back at her house, told Sam that she felt that Todd's split-personalities were real after all, and alluded to Todd being able to control them. It was really left as this questioning subject.

Also, Evernut, I watched a little of One Life to Live at the time that Margaret Cochran was around. Todd had an injured leg while she held him captive, an injury she caused and continued to add to, while she had him tied up to a bed, if you're wondering how Margaret could have sexually forced her way onto Todd. Flyer22 18:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you both for explaining, especially Flyer22 for leaving me the message. I haven't really watched OLTL since about 2000. Wow, this Margaret person sounds mean! I don't believe anyone should be raped, not even former rapists. Anyway, thanks again for the info. Evernut 00:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I haven't really watched One Life to Live since 2003. I must say that I was one of the viewers who were devastated by Todd Manning being recast (still am a little devastated by that). Though I watch every now and then, or keep up by seeing certain recent storylines mentioned. But, yeah, you're welcome. Flyer22 00:30, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article is a few tweaks away from GA

The editor who has been running around nominating soap opera articles for Good Article status, noticeably only the ones I've greatly improved, has been wrong in all instances...except this one. Having "studied" fictional character GA articles such as Homer Simpson, fictional character Featured (FA) Articles such as Jason Voorhees, I know for a fact that this is a GA article. It just so happens it needs a few tweaks before being nominated for GA. But in other instances, this article would have already gotten its GA stamp. Sometimes it depends on the GA reviewer. If an article such as Andrew Van de Kamp (even though it had its title yanked) can be considered Featured Article material, then this article (Todd Manning) surely reached GA status months ago.

In conclusion, there is some tweaking that I will continue to do to this article and I want to add some additional references to it, but it already is one of the best fictional character articles on Wikipedia. I honestly say that without bias. Flyer22 (talk) 01:05, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review

The review is taking place at Talk:Todd Manning/GA1. Noble Story (talk) 03:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)