User talk:TobyRush

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You may also be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Music. Hyacinth 21:09, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Naming

Please do not rename articles without a consensus especially when it is controversial, ive reverted you again. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 19:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Alot of shows do it: (xyz episode), I my self dispute the renaming and so a consensus is needed before renaming.. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 19:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Thats liekly because I objected pretty fast, and I also do not see anything on the talk page its sel (not the to do) discussing a rename, the project you cite is there guideline that some shows follow, scroll down and it lists (just some) that do not follow there naming pattern. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 20:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
The project you cite is something small with a few paticpants, a discussion among them does not equate to a project consensus - before changing articles which use a different style you need to get a consensus especially when so many shows do it a different way. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 20:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] revert

Don't revert a page just out of "fear" that there is a "heated discussion" on talk. My change was not related to the main argument (use (Futurama) or (Futurama episode) ). It was an extension of a long-time practice and one that was mentioned on talk. Also, please do not use edit summaries to try and communicate with editors. Use them just to describe your change, and make use of talk pages for everything else. -- Netoholic @ 17:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming

Hi, I very much appreciate your comment, and yes, I think we agree on many things. I also agree that a quieter discussion venue could be good, or even a more rapid "back and forth" communication venue (do you use AIM or Google Talk?). My off-wiki life has been busier than usual lately, which has made it frustrating for me to participate in a discussion where I can only pop in once a day, but others are posting multiple times per day. There are also other, unfortunately bad faith, reasons for why I find it very difficult to listen closely to some of the other opinions being offered (see my talk page under "Stalking", and then repeated other messages from those individuals on other matters). In one case, one of them actually deleted one of my messages off of someone else's talkpage [1].

Anyway, let me know which style of communication you would prefer, and then we can go from there? :) --Elonka 00:35, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, we can keep things on-wiki, that's fine. I have posted my latest suggestion at new poll wording, and I would appreciate your thoughts as to whether it needs any further tweaking. Also, as for Josiah's summary, I'm not entirely certain which of his posts that you want me to reply to... There's so much noise in there, that I may have lost track of a civil question in the mix. It's another reason that I'd like a new poll, is that if I can't keep up with the chatter in there, what hope does an occasional editor have? I think a well-worded poll would allow a clear way to let others weigh in with their opinion, so we wouldn't just be listening to the same people posting over and over. --Elonka 23:57, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I actually just posted an extensive reply to Josiah's comment, so please feel free to review it at your leisure. There's also some controversy about the wisdom of another poll, so I would appreciate if you would weigh in with your own opinion there as well. :) --Elonka 22:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation request

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television), and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 04:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wording

(reply) Pretty much. On #1, I could actually go with either position, meaning "disambiguate only when necessary", or "always disambiguate", but I generally stated the former, because I was trying for a compromise position. On #2, I'm a bit uncomfortable with the phrasing "exceptional case", because I think that makes it sound like a series needs to have a clear and pressing reason to be an "exception", whereas my opinion is more that the decision should be left to the interested editors of that series. In other words, if there are two series, call them "Apple-men" and "Pear-men", that are effectively identical in all ways except for the fruit, and the "Apple" editors want suffixes and the "Pear" editors don't, then I'd support that, as long as they clearly documented at their respective Apple/pear guideline pages, which standard they wanted for their episodes, and they stuck to their stated guidelines.

Hope that helps! If you have any questions, let me know.  :) --Elonka 00:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure, I could go with that. :) --Elonka 00:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Dude, you just earned my neverending respect/support with your thoughtful and excellent post/proposal. Riverbend 16:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page moves

Toby, I am confused as to why you are moving pages... Can you please explain? --Elonka 23:05, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Mediation

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[edit] ArbCom

Toby, hiya, hope your holidays are going well. :) When you have a moment, could you please pop in to the ArbCom case to offer a statement with your view of the dispute? If you would like, you can add yourself as a party to the case, or you can simply post a statement at the talkpage. You may also wish to glance through the evidence and workshop pages, where you are welcome to offer your own evidence or opinions. Thanks, --Elonka 23:10, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: When the River Meets the Sea

It's the true that the lyrics aren't holiday related, but like any original song, it is open to a wide variety of interpretations. Maybe Paul Williams (the original writer) had some other meaning he intended to give the song. I could have removed the statement altogether, however, in keeping with Wikipedia's Assume Good Faith policy, I asked for a citation that backs up the claim of this one interpretation (no lyrics site is going to cut it). However, I'll tell you what. I'll remove the citation tag since the line "our souls leave this land" could have some credence to what the article says, but I can't guarantee that other Wikipedians will let it go by. Brittany Ka 18:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)