User talk:TobyJ

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[edit] User talk:WikiProject Streetcars=edit

The information at the above page: where did you want it to go? It can't stay where it is because there is no such user as User:WikiProject Streetcars=edit -- Francs2000 | Talk 18:45, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Either go to Talk:Tram or Talk:Streetcar, click on "edit this page" and then add your comment at the bottom, remembering to sign your name. I will delete the other page you created. -- Francs2000 | Talk 19:01, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
I have restored the message to User:TobyJ/Streetcars message. The 'project' is Wikipedia:WikiProject Streetcars. -- Francs2000 | Talk 21:40, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Chimaera (geography)

You may be interested in this article; and if care to comment on Talk:Chimera, this would been a good time. Septentrionalis 06:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SFEDI

I am not sure why they deleted SFEDI, but I am sure they had a good reason. I was just there to clean up the loose redirect. Cheers.- the.crazy.russian τ ç ë 16:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Interesting, I left a note with the deleter. Depending on what he says, I might apply for deletion review. Tell me, what is SFEDI? Do you have a link to a website about it, perhaps? - the.crazy.russian τ ç ë 16:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey, see the SFEDI listing at Wikipedia:Deletion_review. You can vote as well. - the.crazy.russian τ ç ë 00:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Congrats on the undeletion and AfD. Just goes to show you - the processes here work. I am gratified. See you around. - the.crazy.russian τ ç ë 04:05, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

CONGRATS! It was kept. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 06:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Visual pun

You may be interested in the new Stub at Visual pun. —Toby Bartels 01:31, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gable stone

Hi, I am not an admin so I couldn't have deleted it. Nor would I have wanted to. :) It might have had something to do with the database lockup wikipedia had yesterday. I purged the article and it's back again. Thanks for the warning, Garion96 (talk) 12:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I posted this over at Talk:Co-oepratives, but I'll cross-post it here. I'm interested in your comments...

I'm actually somewhat tempted to rewrite the 'Legal entity' section when I get the chance. The situation, in practice, seems to be more complex than the text makes out:
1) I think that unincorporated Co-operatives may be more common than you think. To cite one study, Alison Bourn's study of food co-operatives in Victoria, Australia (Bourn, Alison, et. al., “Food Co-operatives in Victoria by The Victorian Food Co-operative Study Group”, Collingwood: Victorian Food Co-operative Study Group, July 1984.) found that (particularly among poorer socio-economic groups in downtrodden small towns, housing estates, and the poorer inner urban areas) there were a significant number of buying groups or buying clubs which were, functionally, food co-operatives or consumers' co-operatives, but (due to a lack of resources, knowledge, etc.) had not formally been incorporated. To cite some higher profile examples, from the 1970s to the 1980s, the Co-operative Federation of Victoria had been an unincorporated body ( http://www.australia.coop/publish/article_240.php ). If memory serves me correct, weren't the Rochdale Pioneers (or at least some of their contemporaries or predecessors) unincorporated? It is also not uncommon for a Co-oeprative to begin as an unincorporated body amongst a group of friends and then, beyond a certain level of growth, to incorporate. Anyway, the phenomenon is also discussed by Ray Radford.(Radford, Ray; and Keenan, Michelle; "Food co-ops: A Resource Handbook," Melbourne: V.C.O.S.S., 1988.)
2) It is also not uncommon for small to medium Co-operatives, in which all (or at least most) of the members are also members of another organisation (for example, if a group of people who all attend the same school, live in the same housing estate, or are members of the same non-profit organisation) to operate under the legal auspice of that organisation. The reason, for example, why the food co-operatives at Melbourne, Monash, and Latrobe Unviersity are so concerned about VSU is because they are operating under te legal auspice of their respective student unions. Similarly, Under Current Co-op was run for a number of years under the legal auspice of the Brotherhood of St. Laurence(Manton, Joe, et. al., “Under Current Co-op Helpful Information for Co-ops”, Fitzroy: Under Current Co-op., September 1983.)
3) In some jursdictions, Co-operatives are not recognised by the State as a distinct organisational form; thus you have enterprises which are organsied along Co-operative lines (for example, observing the Rochdale Principles) which are nonetheless incorporated as - for example - a Friendly Society, Association, or LLC. For example, prior to - I think it was 1953 or 1954 - there was no Co-operatives Act in Victoria, even though Co-operatives had existed in the State since at least the 1870s; albeit incorporated under other Acts.
4) Similarly, in jursidictions where there is State recognition of Co-operatives as a distinct organisational form, there may be Co-operatives which, nonetheless, choose to incorporate themselves under other Acts. To cite one prominant example, the Murray Goulburn Co-operative (producers of the popular Devondale Brand of long life milk) is an Argricultural Producers' Co-operative which is nonetheless incorporated as a LLC. (in fact, Section 252 of Victoria's Co-operatives Act 1996 makes explicit provision for such arrangements: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/ca1996157/s252.html ).
There may, infact, be enough material (when you properly discuss different legal options for co-operatives, and the differences between different jurisdictions and countries in how co-operatives are recognised, and the relevant pieces of legislation), to branch off a Main Article fully discussing the issue. - AmishThrasher 11:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Worker Cooperative

i'm calling for a citation-finding drive to get rid of the 'no citation' banners at the top of Worker Cooperative. if you're interested in playing, i'd love to have you on board. -- frymaster 04:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] strema

I don't really have an opinion on whether strema or stremma is correct; I redirected because we should only have one article, and stremma was the older and better-developed article. If you think it should be moved to strema, feel free to suggest on the talk page. --Delirium 16:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Cyfenter

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[edit] Spam in ELWARE

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Allow me to point out some (and this being a very small sampling of some) of the problems here:
  • (section header) "A SMASHING IDEA – WITH BENEFITS ALL ROUND"
  • "has shown the way forward for...", "that forms part of the work of the HOT development partnership".
  • "Contact details:" followed by detailed contact information.
Boosterism of anyone or anything is not allowed. If the article started out as a puff piece, like ELWARE was, and there is no neutral version to which to revert, it will be deleted. If you can write an article from sources which are both reliable and independent of the company or initiative or whatever it is, that's fine, but it must be neutrally written. Boosterism will result in deletion and eventually either a block or dose of salt. This is not the place to promote anyone or anything, and that's non-negotiable. Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)