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[edit] What is Toby's real name?

Since information was posted here incorrectly indicating that Toby's real, given name is Tobias, and that information has now spread to several other websites, and is now believed by many to be his true given name, I would like to settle this matter once and for all.

Toby's given name is Kevin Michael McKeehan. To prove it conclusively, I have created two screen captures of publicly available records. These are public records available to anyone on the internet, but to minimize an invasion to Toby's privacy, I have blurred out information that doesn't need to be so readily accessed and isn't pertinent to settling this matter.

The first public record I would like to show is from Google maps, showing the location of True Artist Management, Toby's management offices, at 227 3rd Ave. North, Franklin, TN 37064.

The next screen capture I'd like to show is from the Williamson County, Tennessee property records, indicating the owner of 227 3rd Ave. North, Franklin, TN 37064 is listed as "MCKEEHAN KEVIN M". There is no indication of a Tobias there, on an official property record.

As I stated in a note on Dec. 23, I have known Toby for 16 years. I have had occasion to see his passport and other official documents. Never have I seen any document indicating his given name is anything but Kevin Michael McKeehan, and never have I seen the name Tobias on any official document. Further, I have never heard the name Tobias mentioned by any of his friends, family, or business associates.

I do hope this is conclusive to everyone's satisfaction.

"Kevin, Michael, McKeehan"... doesn't that sound like the 3 members of dcTalk? -- Apprentice Anakin 02:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, it does sound a little coincidental, which still leaves me skeptical about “Kevin Michael McKeehan” being his real name. I'll have to check this out some time. --Wade A. Tisthammer 22:51, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Toby also made mention that his real name is Kevin Michael McKeehan during an interview in dc Talk's 1992 Nu Thang video. Maybe few people have seen that?

An interview done recently by Southern Exposure Magazine said his name was Kevin Michael as well . /current/current-profile --Micahgeek 21:09, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

OK off-topic, but while you did blur out the info, you failed to blur the URL at the top which just left it wide open to get toby's address and etc. And yeah, his name is Kevin Michael Mckeehan...Get Over It People!

Tobias (Toby) wasn't part of his birth name, though it made sense that he would've used Toby when starting dc Talk--if he didn't there would've been two vocalists going by name Kevin. Now he just carried Toby over for tobyMac since that's what he is always referred to.

[edit] Capitalization and punctuation

Toby seems to like to confuse everyone with his name and punctuation on album releases! While one of the users here reverted "TobyMac" to "Tobymac", it seems to me like most people are using "tobyMac". tobyMac.com and Forefront records sites both use this spelling, even when it's at the beginning of a sentence! I wonder if he's changed it around over the years...

tobyMac puts a fresh, smooth coat of paint on his 2005 Grammy nominated and Dove Award winning album, WELCOME TO DIVERSE CITY, with the August 30 release of the full-length remix disc, RENOVATING DIVERSE CITY. ForeFrontRecords.com

Press releases are leaving out the arrow on the new album, Renovating->Diverse City, but Amazon and AllMusic have it listed with one. --J. J. 13:10, 2005 August 30 (UTC)

We probably should iron out which one to use, just for claritys sake. It does seem that tobyMac is the one currently in use. TheJosher 21:31, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

It is tobyMac.

[edit] This Christmas

Is This Christmas really an album or an EP? why is it a "mini-album"? Dan, the CowMan 21:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I have only seen it listed as an actual album, but seeing as it contains just two track I personally wouldn't even call it an EP AlEX 17:23, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
So its a single then. Dan, the CowMan 20:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
If it has two tracks, doesn't that make it an LP? --Apprentice Anakin 02:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
No, generally an LP (long play) is a real album (8+ tracks). Two tracks makes a single, four an EP (Extended Play). Dan, the CowMan 04:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toby's record label

Just to clear up some confusion about what toby's record is. Last time I checked, toby was with ForeFront Records. He is the PRESIDENT of Gotee, not an artist. For a complete list of Gotee artists, go to [1] or Gotee Records. For a complete list of ForeFront artists, go to [2] or ForeFront Records.

Yeah, but generally, on an EP, the songs are usually put onto an LP, right? This isn't. It's just a really short album, I think. 71.102.100.109 17:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC) St. AltaPunk

[edit] McKeehan family

For anyone who wants to know, here is a list of the McKeehan family as of April 12th, 2006.


                         Kevin Michael McKeehan(Toby) -Amanda McKeehan
                                               |
                              Truett, Moses, Marlee, Leo, Judah

Moses and Marlee are adopted. Judah was born on March 24th, 2006. Truett is featured on all of the tobyMac CD's as TruDog. For pictures of the whole family and many other people, go to toby's online scrapbook. Later!!! User:152.163.101.10 01:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

They should get a track on some CD. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.17.18 (talk) 01:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Slam

The Slam is turning out to be quite a successful song. It has been featured on several commercials, part of the NCAA Championship Tournament, a Microsoft computer game, and it has won awards. This is just proof that Toby continues to make great music that can be appealing to anyone, while still being called "God music". If you want to hear this song, you can hear it on Toby's fourth album, "Welcome to Diverse City". It is the third track. You can also hear it remixed on the fifth tobyMac CD, "Renovating Diverse City". On there, it is the second track. Later!!! 205.188.116.135 18:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

It was used as the entrance music for a pro wrestler, and appeared in the ad campaign for Transporter 2 too. And it's a doggone catchy song too. :) MattSutton1 01:14, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

The slam is now being used for commericals for The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift

"Atmosphere" has been on several car commercials, I think Hondas.Sorry about capitalization, dang Dell's messed up.

It was also used in commercial for the TV show "Prisonbreak", and on Sportcenter's "Ultimate Highlight". And yes, "Atmosphere" was used for car commercials. "Burn For You" was used for a commercial too, I believe for cinnamon gum. RoryS89 04:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)RoryS89

[edit] Filmography

Should I put the videos from Dc Talk in the filmography? I feel like I should, because he was in them, as Toby McKeehan. And, he referred to himself as tobyMac in the song "Jesus is Just Alright". I am going to go ahead and put them in, and anyone who wants to get rid of them can talk about it on this talk page. Later!!! 64.12.116.71 01:46, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You know Toby?

In the original comment, I noticed you said that you have known him for 16 years. You lucky dog! What is he like? Just curious... -Soup

I would expect he'd be a pretty nice person. He likes to run and play sports. I wrote an email to him asking if I could use the image of the cover for the Welcome to Diverse City CD, and he said yes. So that shows how great of a guy he is. And plus, he likes God so much too. Later!!! Chili14 20:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I want to meet toby he rocks know dought about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.17.18 (talk) 01:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Sweet!

Chicken Soup 14:47, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I met him once, he's a very nice guy.

I've heard that he's a very humble guy, and that he doesn't act like a huge star at all. RoryS89 03:09, 31 May 2006 (UTC)RoryS89

To answer your question: Telling you what a person is like isn't a matter of one or two sentences, and honestly I'm not completely comfortable saying much. I want to be respectful of Toby's privacy. But I will say a few things. Unlike many well known people, Toby is pretty much what you see is what you get. There is not much difference between the public Toby and the private Toby.

I've always respected him for his integrity. That's one thing that first impressed me about him. He's also very loyal to his friends and family and will do just about anything for them. He's an easy going guy in general, and definitely likes to have fun. But he's also a very astute businessman and is not afraid to tell it like he sees it, even if that means someone gets scolded. If there is anything he's intimidated by, I've yet to see it. He's very ambitious and remarkably confident and competent at everything he gets involved in. More than anything else, there is no mistaking how much he loves his family and how much they mean to him.


Toby mac rules! He is the best no dought about it.

You should get him to write about stuff here that would be cool forgive me if i spell poorly.

[edit] The new album

The new album is coming out on December 5, 2006. I don't know what the name is or what any of the songs are called. You can see some video of them working on it at his website. Later!!! Chili14 (Talk) 21:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


its "Portable Sounds".. wiki it for all the info. but i guess you know that now. this is like a year old. Joooeeeelllll 23:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is tobyMac Mark Stuart's brother-in-law?

I read in the thank-you's of the Welcome to Diverse City CD that he thanked two people named "Mark and Kerri Stuart". He also said that photography was done by a lady called "Kerri McKeehan Stuart". This is possibly his sister, because I know he has one, along with an older brother. I wonder, is tobyMac's sister married to Mark Stuart from Audio Adrenaline? It would explain why they are on the same record label and why they co-headlined the Welcome to Diverse City tour.--Chili14 (Talk) 03:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Marc Stuart married Toby's sister.

The relationship between dc talk and Audio Adrenaline goes back to about 1990. The guys in Audio Adrenaline were attending college at Kentucky Christian College and were then in a band called A-180. Every summer the school put on an event called Summer in the Son [sic]. dc talk performed in concert at this festival in 1989 and 1990.

At the time of the 1990 show, A-180 had just recorded a somewhat flippant and goofy side project and called it Audio Adrenaline. The project contained two songs, "DC-10" and "My God". The guys had given a copy of this project to Toby McKeehan at Summer in the Son. They also contacted Nashville radio promoter Nancy Reece to pitch "My God" to Christian Rock radio. The single became a hit and landed on the national charts.

When the single appeared on the national charts, Toby suggested to his label, ForeFront, that they should sign Audio Adrenaline. A contract was offered and signed. The band members moved to Nashville in 1991 and recorded their first album for ForeFront.

Mark began dating Toby's sister Kerri a couple years later and they were married in January 1995.

A promo video filmed for (I think) a Winter WonderSlam tour (2004/5?) had Truett ("Tru-Dog") calling Mark Stuart "Uncle"...
Yeah, Gotee is very much a family record. Matt Hoopes of Relient K is married to the daughter of Mark Lee Townsend, former dc Talk guitarist and producer of all of Relient K's albums.RoryS89 04:31, 19 August 2006 (UTC)RoryS89

[edit] tobyMac's parents

I added the thing about toby's parents being divorced. I don't remember where I heard it, but if you listen to the lyrics of the first part of the song "Stories (Down to the Bottom)", you will figure out that his parents are divorced. Here is a lyrics site, so you can look it up for yourself:[3].--Chili14(Talk|Contribs) 06:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] label

why is toby's record label smaller than the one he owns?70.124.132.176 04:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Because he has a contract with them from Dc talk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.120.136.57 (talk) 20:03, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

No one cares about the contract they asked why is Fore front smaller and it is smaller because it doesn't get many pepole and its styles are least famos i think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.66.189 (talk) 02:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

There has got to be a Toby Mac photo somewhere online. Why not on here? --MrRandomGuy 03:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portable Sounds

Toby announces here that the new album will be called "Portable Sounds". Should I create a page for this?--Chilifix 00:10, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 6th Album?

Is the single really counted?

Nope it is just a single. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.17.18 (talk) 01:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Boomin' music video

Should I mention that there will be a video for Boomin' from Portable Sounds coming in May? I don't know where it would fit. They're filming it now, I think. I have a link to the page where they announce about it: Here it is.--CJ King 19:45, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I could add something there about it. Check though and make sure it's all correct. Jac roe 21:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Guest Appearances on Other Albums

OK, I am not positive if I'm right, but on the list of guest appearances it says "GRITS My Life Be Like" (with a red link) and just 2 lines down it says "GRITS Ooh Ahh." Aren't these the same song? My life be like Ooh aah.. It says they are both on "Art of Translation." Shouldnt that red linked one be erased, it doesn't exist. Joooeeeelllll 23:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In Whyville

TobyMac is having an online concert on the virtual world of whyville—Preceding unsigned comment added by Vancyon (talk • contribs)

[edit] Compilation Song?

I heard on the K-Love radio station http://klove.com/ that tobymac is currently writing a new song for a compilation album? Which album is this, and where can the song be heard? Jcpizzadude 17:38, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

K-love Talk about toby mac I thought they only had bad bands like third day and david krowder:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.17.18 (talk) 01:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Should we keep the new image on here or switch to the old one? If we decide to stay with the new one, the old one will be deleted. Jac roeBlank 21:43, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I like the old one better. The new one is a good photo, but it doesn't look like toby to me, although a change in imagery every so often is good. Jcpizzadude 13:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but if if the old one doesn't get used in an article, it will be removed from Wikipedia. I believe that we should switch back. It's fair use. Besides, you can see tobyMac's face better in the old one. Jac roeBlank 18:57, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I've used the old image in the article Portable Sounds. Now it doesn't matter. Jac roeBlank 22:08, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Whatever you do just please put it back in the artical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.67.47 (talk) 02:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Boomin/Underdog

Should we include a link to the Underdog commercial? Or was it exclusive to the Disney channel? Jcpizzadude 14:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I believe a link is necessary to show that we aren't making this up. I've added a {{fact}} tag to that statement. Jac roeBlank 20:52, 14 August 2007 (UTC
I looked at the official Underdog website, but I couldn't find an ad with Boomin' in it, so unless someone can find it I'm removing the quote..

I think that you should look it up on Youtube.com or Google.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.17.18 (talk) 01:20, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ill-M-I

What the heck is ill-m-i? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.120.136.57 (talk) 20:15, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Ill-M-I is a track on Welcome to Diverse City. It's mostly just a play on words, but there is an exclamation on toby's website.

Actully it origonaly was a song done by the band "Soul Junk"He covered it in the album previosly mentioned Here's the link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_%28album%29

[edit] Other kids

Why dosen't toby let any of his other kids sing on any cd's? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.17.18 (talk) 01:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC) he does. he had Marlee and Moses on there too. On #2 on "Welcome to Diverse City". RoxxiFoxxi

[edit] Portable sounds remix?

Does any one know when Toby's remix of portable sounds is coming out, Or if one is coming out at all. And if one is when will it?

(DC's talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.120.136.57 (talk) 20:09, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

In an interview with CMSpin, he said he's not planning one now, but that its a possibility. http://www.cmspin.com/newsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=4073&z=32 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcpizzadude (talk • contribs) 13:37, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How does tobyMac really look?

cause I look at this page and i thought he was black at first then i go to the official website and he looks white (not that it matters) and... honestly is this image really of tobymac on this article? i just got into tobyMac's music a bit thats why i'm wondering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.63.114 (talk) 13:15, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I've seen him and he's white though he is very tan so I can see how its confused you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.152.55 (talk) 01:20, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New CD

When will his new CD come out and what's it called?

Well, I'm not sure when you posted that, but his "new" albujm is Portable Sounds. As far as what he is going to do next, I expect a Remix album as he has done that for all his past albums. Who knows, though, he might surprise everyone. \

--Mr. Rings of Darkish  —Preceding unsigned comment added by RingsDarkish (talk • contribs) 20:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I wrote this a short time ago and I know about portable sounds i was at a concert i have a artographed poster but enough about that i heard that he wasn't remixing anymore but he made Portable sounds Delux adition with DVD's and stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.151.141 (talk) 03:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

This article needs a picture of Toby. Would someone post one please? User:Radman622 19:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah listen to this guy there was a picture someone fix it please :]

Come on the pic thats there now isn't good enough get something better PLZ.

Ok I just added a thing that lets you put your picture in easyley If you have a acount I don't so please add a picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.163.157 (talk) 02:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Someone just add a picture!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.67.222 (talk) 20:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discography

I think tobyMac should have a separate discography page. This article is big enough to have all the title get bold and stuff (idk if Wikipedia does that automatically or if a user did that but w/ever). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcpizzadude (talk • contribs) 17:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I did that thanks for noticeing=] Toby mac is my favorite singer that's why. There should be a separate artical I would make one but you have to have an acount and I don't.

Well you don't actually need account, but if you edit without one, Wikipedia retrieves your ID thingymabobber. But you can create an account for free. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcpizzadude (talk • contribs) 14:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Well I still can't but if you know so much why don't you do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.69.213 (talk) 18:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Come someone just make a discography page please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.155.141 (talk) 21:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Just created a discography page for him, removing most of the extensive info from this article and putting it all on the discography page. I'll try working on organizing the new disc article, since it's only okay as is. I, too, had noticed that the discography section was getting way too long, and in general this article is kind of a mess. It would be great if this article were a GA someday, but that's far off at this point. I'll be rewriting and expanding it more now. --JamieS93 15:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New EP

I heard in the first CCM magazine of 2008 that Tobymac is planing to make a Live album from his tour "Boomin beyong mesure" and hopes to release it in 2008. But don't put that in the artical cause he said he hopes to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.67.47 (talk) 03:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I got it!!! I know when the Live recording comes out and I found out that it has a DVD and a CD on it and it comes out on May 27th and I got this info off Tobymac's website so now its offical!

Thank's for adding the name=]

[edit] Images

Since there seems to be a problem with images getting deleted from this article, here's a record of the two free use images for this article. Royalbroil 05:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


Thank you very much=] Nobody mess with them.

[edit] Christian rap

Why doesn't it say that he was one of the first christian rappers ever? I think someone should change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.138.15 (talk) 15:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Major rewrite

I think this artical need a major rewrite for many resons. 1.This artical is about Tobymac, not about the band diversity. 2.It needs to talk more about not only is solo career but also about Dc talk. 3.It needs things like how he started in the music industry.and these aren't the only problems. Anyone else agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.235.118 (talk) 18:20, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Just a simple yes or no. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.146.211 (talk) 18:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

This isn't a very active article, so I probably wouldn't expect a flood of responses... In any case, at a quick glance, information on the Diverse City Band only takes up one small section, so I'm not sure anything needs to be done about it. dc Talk already has its own article. I think the section here should be limited more or less to Toby's involvement, not a detailed history of the band. And there used to be more information on his solo career, but as it was copied directly from other sources, I removed it. Maybe some detail should be added back, but not if it's going to just be copied from other sites like before. --Fru1tbat (talk) 22:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
In response to you all, I agree, this article really could use a re-write, a task I'm starting on now (I'd appreciate it if anyone has input on it!) I do think there should be a decent section about dc Talk, being that they were so influential and it's basically how Toby got started in the music industry. This is a general biography about him, though (not just his solo career), so his influence with dc Talk and solo works should be equally emphasized on, although there will probably be more to mention about his solo music, record label, etc. Anyway, tobyMac isn't on my back burner anymore. :) Leave me a message on my talk page if you have any suggestions as to what to do (I'd like some help with this). --JamieS93 16:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio

I previously removed two sections that were copied wholesale from other websites. I've just noticed that much of the remaining biographical content was taken from http://www.dctalkunite.com/tobymac/biography.html. It wasn't copied quite as completely as the other sections, but it definitely needs to be dealt with. Any suggestions? Since some of it was reworded slightly, and I'm not sure where the line is between rewording and copying, I hesitate to edit it myself... --Fru1tbat (talk) 16:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Alive and Transported

Should we mention Toby's new c.d. Alive and Transported now or after it comes out? The K.O. King (talk) 23:28, 25 May 2008 (UTC)