Talk:To Write Love on Her Arms

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on May 9, 2008. The result of the discussion was Keep.

I have no affiliation with this organization whatsoever. In fact, I was curious about them and found that no Wikipedia article existed, so I started a stub with information readily available on their website. This article needs a great deal more information in it, but it shouldn't be deleted altogether. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travishearne (talk • contribs) 08:16, 4 January 2007

  • please SIGN your name on TALK pages. If you want the article to be kept
  • find information regarding this organisation from places other than their own website
  • use that inforation to improve the article
  • provide citations to your improvements

Good luck with keeping and improving the article. If you need help with citations let me know!Garrie 00:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Please keep this article

Please keep this article. TWLOHA is a great organization, and I've spoken to the founder face-to-face only a few months ago. They are an amazing group of people with an excellent cause.

Notability isn't a problem, they are notable, they just have not been around long enough for much new information to be added. Renee, the young woman who the organization was started for, has successfully been treated for cocaine addictions and depression. Her life has taken a 180 turn because of this group, and if that isn't notable, I don't know what is.

Please do not delete this article. Any further questions can be directed to this page or straight to my talk page. I'll do the best I can to defend this organization. Streetsabre 05:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the page is notable enough as well. I took out a few of the bands in the list of supporters (a list of 30 bands seemed excessive... there's still too many, but I couldn't decide which ones to remove), and reworded the part about the Anberlin tour, as it's over now. I'd upload their "Title" image (like the one on this shirt [1]), but I'm not sure about copyright. TheContralto 22:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Founding date?

I heard of the organization in August 2006. Where do they get the date OCTOBER 2006? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.251.247 (talk) 20:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I changed it to March of 2006, as that's when their MySpace was registered. I know I heard about them before October '06 as well. I'm assuming that date came from when they were set up as an official nonprofit organization, though they existed as a "movement", I suppose, before that. TheContralto 23:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I saw a TWLOHA shirt during the spring break of 2006 (April, I guess) in Orlando. If they already had shirts printed, they must have been around a bit long than that. AshleyScripter {talkback} 17:12, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bands

Maybe the bands involved with TWLOHA should have their own catagory. There are so many of them, and people keep adding/subtracting the ones in the main article. I don't want to make that dramatic of a move, but its a thought for someone who's bored.


It could possibly be rearanged that way, however the bands dont present themselves as agents of TWLOHA. However you can't truly classify them to much of any degree beside supporters.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.19.177.254 (talk) 20:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Actual activities?

Can anybody tell me what this group actually DOES other than promote itself?

From the TWLOHA FAQ "Q. Where does the money from T-shirt sales and donations go? A. Initial profits went to cover Renee's rehab expenses. We continue to help support her as she gets her feet on the ground. Beyond that, money essentially goes now to two places:

1. Operating costs: production, management of online store, promotional expenses such as printing and shipping of flyer cards, legal fees, design fees (t-shirts, web, flyers), booth for Cornerstone (and future events). Also, we often send shirts to hurting kids, so when we do that, we cover the production cost plus shipping. Jamie, Trisha David and Lauren are now working on this full-time drawing a salary, determined by a board of directors. The need is great, and we hope to add more staff as soon as possible.

2. Meeting financial needs. Our goal for 2007 is to contribute $100k to the treatment, recovery and support of young people facing depression, addiction, suicide and self-injury."

To judge the notability of this charity, I think it's important to know how much money it takes in and what percentage goes to operating costs (publicity) vs. functional spending. Of the money that goes to "treatment, recovery and support," how is that spent EXACTLY (e.g., do they give money directly to kids, fund clinics (and if so which ones), etc). Also, what exactly is Renee getting money for now? Food, housing? At what point will she be judged "on her feet"? Sorry to sound suspicious, but this is all awfully vague for a charity. Radosh 00:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

one activity that is actually coming up very soon has been posted on facebook. the event is called "to write love on her arms" it promoted/encourages people to literally, write "love" on their arms, and to go around and tell people they are loved. the date for this event is scheduled as February 13th, the day before valentines day. a day, which i`m sure you may all agree with me, has fairly high suicide rates seeing as how social pressure may crush the single depressed teenagers. azndragon11491 03:41, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


They recently posted a big update on their MySpace blog (which unfortunately, I can't link to), detailing where the money is going, currently:

"Last month, thanks to your support, TWLOHA donated $28,500 to the treatment and recovery of young people struggling with depression, drug addiction, self-injury and suicide. The money was split between several organizations, all of which we're committed to supporting each month for the rest of 2007. Those organizations are:

NATIONAL HOPELINE NETWORK (1-800-SUICIDE) - WWW.HOPELINE.COM The National Hopeline is a non-profit organization that fights suicide at the front lines. Their toll-free call line is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and links the caller to the nearest crisis hotline in their area. To date, they have received over 2 million calls from individuals struggling with thoughts of suicide.

TEEN CHALLENGE - WWW.TEENCHALLENGEUSA.COM Teen challenge is a rehab program with locations in 70 different countries. "Teen Challenge endeavors to help people become mentally sound, emotionally balanced, socially adjusted, physically well, and spiritually alive." Many Teen Challenge centers offer treatment for free, and that is made possible through donations.

MERCY MINISTRIES - WWW.MERCYMINISTRIES.ORG Mercy is a non-profit organization for young women who face life-controlling issues. They provide residential programs free of charge designed to address the whole person: spiritual, physical and emotional. Mercy homes are located in the USA, Australia, and the UK. Construction is underway for Mercy's first home in Canada.

S.A.F.E. (Self-Abuse Finally Ends) - WWW.SELFINJURY.COM / 1-800-DONT-CUT "S.A.F.E. Alternatives is a nationally recognized treatment approach, professional network and educational resource base, which is committed to helping you and others achieve an end to self-injurious behavior."

KIDS HELP LINE (Australia) - WWW.KIDSHELP.COM.AU / 1-800-55-1800 Offers free, confidential, anonymous 24-hour phone and online counseling for young people (5-25) in Australia.

INDIA: Back in January, three of us travelled to Kolkata, India, as part of a group there to experience the work being done in the fight against human slavery. We partnered with two different organizations, and as part of our commitment to the children we met and the work we experienced, 5% of the money we give away will go to those organizations: Apne Aap - WWW.APNEAAP.ORG Sanlaap - WWW.SANLAAPINDIA.ORG

-TheContralto 03:41, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Working On Crafting Page

To everyone who has expressed concern about the content of the page and the purpose of the organization, our team is currently working on re-doing this page. We appreciate your patience and past assistance with crafting it, but we would like to make the information as accurate as possible. Thanks -Michael Michael@twloha.com --TWLOHAmichael (talk) 19:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Religious sponsorship

Is TWLOHA based upon a framework that originated from a religion? I am curious as there is no mention of TWLOHA being a christian organisation, yet they are supported by christian bands. Can anyone clear this up?--CapFan (talk) 21:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

From their FAQ [2]:
Q. Is TWLOHA a “Christian” organization?
A. We feel that the story (and the rest of this project) speaks for itself. Identifying something (such as a band, store, venue or project) as "Christian" often alienates those outside of the church/Christian culture, and we don't want to do that. TWLOHA aims to be inclusive and inviting. This is a project for all people. This is a project for broken people, and it is led by broken people.
Many of the organizations they claim to support financially are Christian ones. I'm not sure if this rates a mention on the page. Zimbardo Cookie Experiment (talk) 22:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. The same would be done if they supported NGO's or charities etc - thanks for clearing that one up CapFan (talk) 13:09, 26 May 2008 (UTC)