Talk:TNA

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 08:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

TNA (disambiguation) → TNA — There are multiple items that use the acronym TNA, not just Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. Naming conventions (acronyms): Acronyms as words in article titles states because of that, the article TNA should be a list of what could TNA stands for.PepsiPlunge 05:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC) PepsiPlunge 05:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Survey - in support of the move

1. Support - I would suggest that the most common usage is actually the one which is currently on top of the list, and not the wrestling reference. Chris cheese whine 07:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

   That would be T & A and T and A, not TNA. TJ Spyke 01:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Actually, I've seen it as T&A, T and A, and TNA. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 02:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Maybe you have, I have never seen TNA used for it. TJ Spyke 05:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Of course that means that it's not important, right? Chris cheese whine 05:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

2. Support. I suspect the wrestling thing might be the most important, but not to the exclusion of all others. As per WP:MOSDAB, "If there is extended discussion about which article truly is the primary topic, that may be a sign that there is in fact no primary topic, and that the disambiguation page should be located at the plain title with no "(disambiguation)"." --DeLarge 11:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

   There is no extended discussion. No one had a problem with this until this user unilaterally change the page. TJ Spyke 01:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   The TNA history log begs to differ from you opinion that no one has a problem with TNA redirecting to Total Nonstop Action, since there have been several edits by multiple people redirecting it to TNA (disambiguation). PepsiPlunge 02:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   That doesn't constitute a extended discussion, or any discussion actually. TJ Spyke 05:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Wikilawyer much? Chris cheese whine 05:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   That's not wikilawyering. Comments in an edit summary is not a discussion. TJ Spyke 06:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   You're putting forward an asinine argument about what does or does not constitute "discussion", in a rather lawyerly fashion. It walks like a duck, it talks like a duck ... Chris cheese whine 14:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

3. Support. As per Chris. I feel like a pervert now. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 20:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
4. Support tits and ass is the most common meaning of this (also spelt TnA, T'n'A).. and Trinitroaniline would also be more significant than wrestling. I dare say, someone could be searching for some form of nucleic acid as well (Threose Nucleic Acid). 70.51.8.242 10:06, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   No it isn't. Tits and ass are almost always "T & A" or "T and A". I know Google searches aren't conclusive, but a search for "TNA" has 9 of the first 10 being for the wrestling fed (the 10th was for the Texas Nurses Association). TJ Spyke 22:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Yes, because you're clearly the ultimate arbiter on how people render "tits and ass", right? Exclude the word "wrestling", and the top 10 includes The National Archives and an "adult BitTorrent tracker" called PureTNA. Since you want to deal in personal experience, I asked a dozen red-blooded males what they thought I meant by "TNA". I got 11 "tits and ass", and one who said "tits and ass, though I think it has something to do with wrestling too". Chris cheese whine 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Getting a little defensive, aren't you? I said Goodle isn't conclusive, but most of the hits for "TNA" are for the wrestling fed. In fact, "TNA" -wrestling drops the count from 5.1 million to 1.78 million (so the strong majority are for wrestling). TJ Spyke 00:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

5. Support - Too many other articles share the TNA initials. Besides, TNA is not that big at all. Mshake3 02:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
6. Support. Seems totally the right thing to do here. Vegaswikian 02:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey - in opposition to the move

1. Strong Oppose Total Nonstop Action Wrestling is the most common use for TNA. There is already a link at the TNA Wrestling article for those who might be looking for other uses. TJ Spyke 05:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

   Are you saying that as an unbiased observer or a wrestling fan? PepsiPlunge 02:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Both. From what i've seen, TNA has been used almost exclusively for Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. TJ Spyke 05:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   You can't be both. Chris cheese whine 05:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Bullocks. TJ Spyke 06:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   You are being biased. Tits and ass is the most common usage. 70.51.8.242 10:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Tits and Ass (from what I have seen) is always T & A or T and A. TJ Spyke 22:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

   Not for the rest of us. I'll admit I have never even heard of TNA as wrestling. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 01:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

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