User talk:TKarrde

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Contents 1 Tekkaman Blade media 2 Hey 3 Xenogears gears and vehicle pages 4 Miang 5 Krel/Ram 6 Userbox 7 Pegas 2 8 Re: Userbox formatting code 9 Hey 10 thanks for the barnstar! 11 Re: Userboxen 12 Image copyright problem with Image:Gallery06_big.jpg 13 Welcome back 14 On deleting atheist userbox 15 on atheism in general 16 Userbox spacing 17 Editing issues 18 I did not add "nonsense" to the Nick Berg article. 19 re: Vandalism chage again Danny Lilithbourne 20 Teknoman to Tekkaman Blade! 21 Re: Battlefield 2 gripes

[edit] Tekkaman Blade media

If you interested in editing other Tekkaman Blade stuff, there's:

Category:Anime soundtracks - Tekkaman Blade osts in that cat

Uchuu no Kishi: Tekkaman Blade - video game

Teknoman - One dude is making a lot of changes. Not sure I agree with them since it's mostly concentrating on Teknoman instead of Tekkaman Blade but it seems harmless.

--Dangerous-Boy 07:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

*tips hat* Thanks for the heads-up. I'll have time to fix a lot of the edits soon, though I don't know whether Anonymous will come back to revert to his changes. Some of them don't make any sense at all (such as taking the link tags out of a link to Tekkaman Blade but leaving the text there - methinks that was part of his whole attempt to separate Teknoman and Tekkaman Blade into different pages.. a good idea but I'd prefer making Teknoman a footnote at the bottom of the Tekkaman Blade page, seeing as the original series merits more attention). Maybe if he registers with a nickname we can work out a compromise :P Don't suppose there's any way to get admins to help protect the page if Anonymous'es get vengeful and start vandalizing it out of spite? TKarrde 10:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I think you can get him blocked if you want. There's a page on wikipedia to block vandals. I think think that teknoman should be mentioned at the end too and a tiny bit the first paragraph. The names changes list and episode list should stay in my opinion. Afterfall, without Teknoman, a lot of people wouldn't know about tekkaman blade. Good luck on your edits. --Dangerous-Boy 12:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Teknoman was actually how I got introduced to anime, so I'm a little biased whenever anyone asks which is my favorite. ;) I used to get up early on weekends with a bowl of cereal to catch episodes on UPN :P I'll have to wait until I get the night shift at work again (a few days) so I'll have plenty of time to sit around editing wikipedia, heh. And this method of carrying on a conversation could use some improvement (after all, I dunno when you'll check back here). I don't want to keep spamming up your talk page with copy-pasted duplicates of everything here :P TKarrde 12:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

The TBII deletion artist is the same guy. Jjjsixsix 15:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Alright, read through it, seeing [1], not many changes from old version at all. The Tekkaman Blade II page isn't the problem, the Tekkaman Blade one is, and as of now, has nothing on it. Again, as I stated on Dangerous-Boy's talk page, I have a Template:user anime-0 on my user page, so I really don't know much, but I did notice that one anon was repeatedly tearing down the Teknoman wiki without saying what he was doing. As for Tekkaman Blade II, those look like good faith edits, as in, switching spellings from int'l versions to US versions? (Ah, spelling disputes. I got involved in one of those once, not touching those again.) So yeah, those are my two cents on an issue I honestly have no clue about. -- Jjjsixsix 23:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, see, the issue with the spellings and names are that the US spellings/names belong to "Teknoman", which is a very butchered and mangled, Americanized and truncated version of the original show. The original series had either six or eight seasons (I forget exactly) - Teknoman had two. Also, Teknoman changed the gender of a character who had a crush on the main character just to prevent the American masses from having to deal with the horrifying specter of homosexuality in "cartoons" (Rebin to 'Maggie MacPherson', male to female). Also, the English versions of the show emphasized more action and more or less did away entirely with most of the plot and backstory behind the characters' conflicts, which left the show feeling pretty shallow compared to the original, IMO. The list goes on and on, but in the end it basically leads me to believe that Teknoman is best represented by a mention in a page dedicated to the original, unmangled series - Tekkaman Blade. The edits in the Tekkaman Blade II page that I was referencing were minor, true, but unhelpful and largely hinting at someone not too experienced at editing to begin with - the results, IMO, were actually a step down from what they sought to edit. Anyway, I'll have plenty of time to get around to fixing all of it in about two days (when I've got the night shift at work again :P). TKarrde 14:46, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

For reference, the Anonymous I'm referring to that has been problematic is 220.238.11.15. The other Anonymouses that have made changes to the TBII page have been mostly helpful (I'm willing to let them have their way with the Firstname first, Lastname last issue, but it's sloppy editing and erosion of quality that really get to me, like with the aforementioned IP). TKarrde 14:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Hey, that would be awesome. I look forward to seeing the Miang page! Deckiller 12:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Gotcha. Look forward to it in about a week (two tops) - I'll start working up some drafts. Unfortunately until my personal computer gets fixed (probably two months) I won't be able to contribute any pics to the article, you might need to find those yourself. TKarrde 12:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Xenogears gears and vehicle pages

I agree; there should be less plot information on these pages. Deckiller 01:41, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miang

I just read the background section, it looks awesome! Deckiller 16:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeesh, that scared me. I was just clicking on your name to add a comment saying I'd posted a draft :P Any ideas as far as the other stuff goes? I don't know what plans you had for the format of the rest of the page - I'm assuming from the Disc One and Disc Two sections that you planned on explaining in detail her involvement plot-wise over those two discs, but that would also entail spelling out the entire plot, really.. I was thinking that a timeline of Miang Awakenings would be neat, from the original Kadomony being to the final reunited Elly-Miang being, with all the known incarnations in between (like the Miang twins from the Zeboim era). I can do that pretty much from memory, but like I mentioned before I don't have access to a personal puter at the moment so pictures will have to come from elsewho. :P TKarrde 16:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, a timeline of sorts would be awesome. As for the detailed analysis/plot summary, I'm torn on the issue, because some video game articles do and some don't. I might post something about it on the CVG project page to see what everyone thinks. Deckiller 16:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, see, my thinking is that game scripts already exist. Gotta keep in mind Wikipedia's purpose - it's a place to go to gain better understanding of something - not meant to be an entire substitution FOR that something :P That's just my opinion, anyway. In any case, something like that wouldn't belong in Miang's page, it'd belong in a general Xenogears page or a plot-related page, or maybe this CVG thing you're talking about (haven't checked that out yet). TKarrde 16:32, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I posted a question on the WikiProject talk page; we might be able to get a better idea as to how to officially handle plot summary and all. I've seen so many different styles; FF8 doesn't really spoil anything, while the Sephiroth page spills the beans. Hopefully we'll get a true response. Deckiller 16:37, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Heya, I found a pretty good guideline that may help us out: Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). Deckiller 16:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Hmm.. Well, if you really feel like writing a plot summary for something as time-spanning as the Xenogears story, by all means, don't let me tie your hands :P I just don't think it would belong on the Miang page, that's all. :P Also, can I get a link to that wikiproject talk page you mentioned? TKarrde 16:43, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry (forgot to include it): Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer and video games. Deckiller 16:45, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Krel/Ram

Hey, you may want to talk to ArcTheLad; he wrote the Ramsus and Krelian pages. Deckiller 16:44, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Righto, I'll get in touch with him. He'd be the first I'd suspect to have an objection to a rewrite of those pages, but I was also trying to get a feel for whether the community at large would want the changes I'm suggesting. Thanks again :) TKarrde 16:45, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

How about adding background sections but not deleting the info about what they did in the game? ArcTheLad 17:32, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

The problem as I see it is that the articles are too cluttered. Naturally I won't change anything without your permission (you obviously spent a lot of time writing up those pages), but in my opinion character pages by their very nature should be kept as small as possible while trying to fully explain the character concept. Yours goes above and beyond the call, going so far as to actually follow the characters step by step through the entire game's plot (and Xenogears has a heckuva plot), so when I read it it feels excessive :P This is all opinion, of course, feel free to disagree :P I just think the pages need to be slimmed down a bit ;) TKarrde 17:38, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I think that certain characters such as Krelian and Ramsus are complex and interesting enough to warrant a complete, straightforward biography that adequately explains their actions/reasons. If you don't like my formal writing style, I don't mind if you change it, as long as none of the meaningful content is lost. Mainly I would like to see the Background and Pre-disc one sections of the Miang article established similarly in the Krelian and Ramsus articles—as sections that lead up to the current Disc one and Disc two sections. ArcTheLad 04:52, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it again, but I still stand by my previous assertion that the Krelian and Ramsus articles are a bit longwinded, making it difficult to get a good idea of the character from a glance, which is what character bios are meant for IMO. Lots of information there, that's not the problem.. just needs to be streamlined. Anyway, like I said, I won't make any changes to your contributions without your permission (I know how much I loathe random IPs coming in and scrambling mine), but maybe I can get you to see my point of view :P TKarrde 14:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

I had a different one, but that one does look better ^_^ Deckiller 21:24, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pegas 2

I can't seem to find any pics of him at the moment. Will look later. --Dangerous-Boy 22:15, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

'Kay. Like I said, any pic of the original Pegasus will probably suffice. I doubt anyone is a big enough anime geek to be able to tell them apart from a mugshot (watch that comment come back to haunt me), but pics of Tekkaman Blade in general are pretty hard to come by on teh intarbutt. Maybe the Japanese side of the Web would have more, but I can't read Japanese to save my life. TKarrde 14:14, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Usually, I can at least find one but for some reason, no pics are showing up. --Dangerous-Boy 21:52, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Userbox formatting code

No worries. I stole mine from somebody else, too. –Abe Dashiell ^(t/c) 19:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Add info on aforementioned characters' Gears, whether in the same page or as new pages in themselves. Hey, I just wanted to comment that a bunch of people agreed a while ago that they should be merged into lists (I even had to split playable gears into their own article because it was so long due to fancruft). But yeah, we need to expand some sections in a lot of the Xenogears lists. Deckiller 19:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Aye, point a few out to me and I'd be happy to help. I don't think the Gears from the Nortune Battling Arena are worth mentioning (there are so many and such little information on any of them save Argento and Regurus), and the Seraphs probably don't belong in a Gear listing, since they're not technically Gears (even if you do battle them in Gear-sized battles - note the absence of Gear-sized Chu-Chu in the Gear list). Ideally, pictures of every Gear mentioned would be included, even if small ones. Smaller-sized pictures should be head/mugshots. I've got half a mind to rewrite the entire list, due to poor grammar and spelling issues throughout (as well as some speculative info/fancruft that you mentioned), but I'm saving that for a day where I'm feeling really worker-bee-ish. TKarrde 20:02, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I've put off all the work on the Xenogears articles because I've been focusing on some of the Xenosaga ones, but now you're interested, we should be able to improve them. Deckiller 20:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for the barnstar!

Thanks. --Dangerous-Boy 21:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

You earned it :) I don't know where I would've found all those pics for the TBII page. Keep up the great work :) TKarrde 21:55, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Userboxen

Thanks for the info about the userboxes. Though you could have been a little clearer, I thought you might be crazy until I tried the page in Opera. :P Well anyway, it should be fixed now. That is unless it's broken in a browser that isn't Firefox or Opera. Again though, thanks. I likely never would have realized the break. - ZoeF 22:20, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Gallery06_big.jpg

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[edit] Welcome back

Good work with the cleanup; I'll rejoin the Xeno-cleanup wagon in a few days (I've been sidetracked with lots of other wikiprojects). I greatly appreciate your help though; finally someone besides me is interested in cleaning up the pages. One thing I recommend is making sure gamefaqs info is deleted as well. Deckiller 23:24, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, its tough to walk that fine line between plot info and excess spoilers. I think the Final Fantasy pages generally do a good job with plot info balancing. Deckiller 23:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On deleting atheist userbox

It is divisive, harmful to the project, and is now a candidate for speedy deletion, as per Jimbo's dictum. See WP:CSD. --Improv 23:54, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

• I point you at the golden rule of last resort -- he who has the gold makes the rules. Jimbo's judgement trumps any consensus that might ever occur. He has weighed in on this issue, and devisive userboxes must go. It's not of any dislike for atheists -- eventually these divisive userboxes will all go away. I am starting here, and moving to delete/protect others after a bit, getting my toes wet a bit at a time. I think you'd be surprised at my actual positions on faith, religion, etc -- I am telling you they are not relevant to the userbox discussion though. --Improv 00:07, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Eventually I intend to do just that, but not singlehandedly. I am asking you to trust me that I have nothing special against atheists, and that this is certainly not an attempt to single them out. It is purely a matter of policy. The corrisponding userboxes will go too, be patient (or delete them yourself, and I'll back you up). --Improv 00:15, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I understand your concern, and it is a reasonable concern. If you really want, go digging on Google for the name "Pat Gunn", and you'll find that we're more similar than you'd think. I realise that this issue is very painful for the community, and I don't enjoy these matters, but I worry about the project and think that userboxes represent a great harm for it. I want the help of everyone I can get to purge the threat, and feel that people will understand afterwards. --Improv 00:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
• You may call this a panic by Jimbo, but I don't think it is. I think he sees a growing threat to the project, and has taken reasonable steps to deal with it. People who have a sense of entitlement are just being human in their opposition to it, and I don't blame them, but I am with Jimbo in trying to counter the threat, and am hoping to convince other people that it's necessary to do what he has called to be done. In any case, it is his site, and it is not for people to question that judgement. --Improv 00:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi, you mentioned that to avoid bias, it would be best to take my current stand on the atheist userbox and apply it to other similar userboxen. Might I ask you to help me out by making a hitlist on my talk page? Thanks! --Improv 06:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] on atheism in general

Believing in the absence of god/gods/whatever still falls under the religious realm of your personality. Atheism is a religious belief. Cornell Rockey 05:19, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox spacing

You had a couple extra carriage returns in there -- the spacing should be uniform now. Cheers, JDoorjam Talk 05:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editing issues

Yeah, I've been having the same problem. Deckiller 22:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I did not add "nonsense" to the Nick Berg article.

Hello. I see you've added a message to my talk page about "adding nonsense" to the Nick Berg article. I was merely removing a large chunk of Italian text, which someone foolishly added. Please understand. I did not add gibberish to the Nick Berg article. I merely removed some gibberish. - XX55XX 21:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Vandalism chage again Danny Lilithbourne

Your charge of vandalism against Danny Lilithbourne was highly inappropriate. Please do not describe good faith edits as vandalism. If you have a content dispute with another editor, take it to the talk page, but do NOT call it vandalism. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 16:38, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Seemed like vandalism to me. Running all over the site removing content he doesn't immediately agree with and citing "fancruft" as a blanket statement to cover his actions sure as heck doesn't seem like good faith editing to me. The section on Millia Rage that he deleted would've been gone a LONG time before he came along if it had truly been fancruft, and it's been verified anyway. Take it up with him, not me. teh TK 20:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dalbury"

Edits made in a content dispute are not vandalism. Please see What vandalism is not. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 21:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

• The only reference to Millia Rage's sexuality comes from documents given to Bridget and Kuradoberi Jam by I-No in XX's Story Mode; hardly a reliable source. Pretty much all of the information was exaggeration and not meant to be taken as true. Before you simply cry "vandalism" in reply to someone deleting contributions, you might want to consider quoting your sources, which would have saved you a whole lot of pain. If you can't produce more evidence than allusions, that addition violates NPOV and is clearly fancruft. I'll leave the sentence there until you respond. Danny Lilithborne 00:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
• I didn't say that Story Mode was an unreliable source, I said that I-No was an unreliable source. Just to double check, I went through all the win quotes and endings myself and I fail to find anything that even suggests Millia is homo/bisexual other than I-No's false bounties. Again, I need something very specific, or I'm deleting it again. (this was also posted on Danny Lilithborne's talk page) Danny Lilithborne 06:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I went and "did my research" like you asked, and found absolutely no evidence of Millia's bisexuality in XX. Check the talk page. I cannot find winquotes for X, but lack of evidence against does not equate to evidence for. I removed the claim. You're welcome to re-add it IF you can find me a quote of Millia hitting on Jam or some other thing that hints to her sexuality outside of the probably false claims of I-No. Danny Lilithborne 00:57, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm a little too busy IRL to go to the trouble, but I'll be sure to leave a note on your talk page when someone else does. teh TK 18:07, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Teknoman to Tekkaman Blade!

Let's make a drive to change Teknoman to Tekkaman Blade. It's correct name of the series. The DVDs will soone be coming out for it. I see no reason why we shouldn't change everything to Tekkaman Blade. All the lists of the changes are there. Also, if the character sections get big enough they should probably get there own pages or go into a separate list page.--Dangerous-Boy 07:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm kind of conflicted as to the best course of action regarding Teknoman/Tekkaman Blade's representation on Wikipedia. On the one hand, it's true that Teknoman is a bastardized, largely watered down and butchered version of Tekkaman Blade with a lot of content and subtext missing entirely that was in its source (about 3/4ths I'd estimate), but on the other hand a lot of people's first introduction to Anime in general could very well have been through Teknoman, as mine was. I don't know whether to make separate pages for Teknoman and Tekkaman Blade, or just make a page for Tekkaman Blade and then include Teknoman as a footer (that'd be one looooong page though). I do agree with the general assessment that the current Teknoman page is in dire need of a cleanup, as it's inundated with spelling and grammatical errors and it largely rambles on about plot points that aren't necessarily required in the overall article (read: spoilers). Let's throw a line out on the talk page and see if anyone else has any objections to a large, wholesale restructuring of the Teknoman page (or alternatively, its deletion and recreation as a Tekkaman Blade page, depending on the course of action we end up pursuing). teh TK 07:33, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

You can put it on the talk page. I don't think that many people if anyone will reply. The anonomous user who keeps editing never bothers to reply. Anyway, I cool with changing it to tekkaman blade. There's always redirects for people who type in teknoman in the search box.--Dangerous-Boy 07:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I put the message up on the talk page.--Dangerous-Boy 03:32, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

No one's objected to the change. Do you want to help me change the article to tekkaman blade?--Dangerous-Boy 18:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Bascially changing the names, any plot differences back to the original, and the dates. Probably might want to make a template later like:

v • d • e Vampire Hunter D Animated Titles Vampire Hunter D  · Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust Light Novels & Books Volume 1  · 2  · 3  · 4  · 5  · 6  · 7  · 8  · 9  · 10  · 11  · 12  · 13  · 14  · 15  · 16  · 17  · 18  · 19 Dark Nocturne  · Other Short Stories  · Art and Guide Books Manga Series Hideyuki Kikuchi's Vampire Hunter D Video Game Vampire Hunter D Music & Audio Dramas Vampire Hunter D OST  · Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust OST  · Vampire Hunter D Audio Dramas

--Dangerous-Boy 20:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Moved teknoman to Tekkaman Blade. check for any errors or rewrite whatever you see fit.--Dangerous-Boy 05:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Good luck on moving! stay safe!--Dangerous-Boy 19:00, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Battlefield 2 gripes

Speaking as a fan of FPS: you should take a look at America's Army. The developers have gone to some lengths to portray bodily damage (especially movement speed and firing accuracy after being wounded). The overall experience is very realistic, and is easily one of the harder FPSes that I've played, in terms of not being able to go Rambo. :)

I do agree that the gripes about bodily damage and spawn camping are not unique to BF2, and I agreed with the decision to remove them (the paragraph in question wasn't mine the first place; I was rewording an earlier editor's additions.) I'm compiling critical reviews and general concensus on strengths and weaknesses of the game as a product, and I'll re-add the 'Reception and criticism' section when it's done. Nice to meet ya. ~ Flooch 08:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Fortunately, I've never been shot, so I can't disagree with that!

In the end, AA is a product; it's a compromise between reality and game balance. (Getting shot in a non-essential bodypart and having to sit out the round would suck from a gamer's POV.) Despite being a fan, I too, have gripes about its realism. For one, I would've liked to see more emphasis on the rank hierarchy and following orders of your superiors (ultimately teamwork). Funny that the higher ranks are usually the last chosen... Battlefield 2 is superior to AA in this respect.

One of my acquaintances specialised as a network admin in — and then worked as a private contractor for — the Marines. He once told me that the word "Army" stands for "Aren't Ready to be Marines Yet". Comments? D: ~ Flooch 13:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I wonder why countries divide their military forces. Would it offer advantages over unified armies, say, like the PLA or IDF (or even the USMC?) Certainly there must be times, during joint operations, where conflicting orders are given from different HQ's. I came up with the conclusion that it's organised this way so that in the event of one of the forces starting a coup d'etat, the other three could join forces and stop the rogue army. (Would make an interesting movie in any case.)

Would it make better sense to have four USMC-like organisations? Having that versatility in each of the armies could be useful. Or maybe it's easier to administrate with them split up as they are currently. ~ Flooch 08:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)