Talk:Tippler
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[edit] Failed AFD
This article was nominated on AFD but failed to gather consensus for deletion. Johnleemk | Talk 12:38, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Alcohol?
Isn't a tippler someone who drinks in moderation or something?
- A tippler is someone who drinks liquids containing ethanol, not necessarily in moderation. Maias 11:11, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Possible cruelty
Continuous flying is certainly unnatural. There may be questions as to whether this sport is cruel. The birds fly willingly in a similar way to the way fighting bulls, fighting dogs and fighting cocks fight willingly. They are bread for endurance flights and cannot reproduce unless they fly very long.
- I've moved the above section here to the talk page so it can be discussed further to decide if it really should go with the Tippler Pigeon article? My opinion is that editors personal opinions on animal cruelty should not be showing up in encyclopedic references. We are not all vegetarians. I personally don't want to be constantly accused of being cruel to animals everytime I bite down on a hamburger. Wouldn't animal cruelty comments be better served appearing on pages actually designed to reference animal cruelty? Otherwise we wind up with people tagging every single article related to a breeder directed animal that has not been the result of natural selection. But even then mother nature can be far crueler. Also, I think "bread for endurance" should read bred for endurance? Anyhow, off the soapbox. Over to anyone who would like to comment further on this. Sting au 23:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Sting totally. I have been breeding and flying Tipplers for many years and have always treated them with much dignity and respect. The tipplers are surely selected for endurance flying but it is not like they are forced to fly long hours. The "good ones" do it voluntarily with some training. Selection based on some predefined criteria happens in all shapes of reproduction, even in natural environments by mother nature: survival of the fittest. Tippler 07:34, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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- G'day Tippler. Thanks for your support. I also keep the breed (among others) but I'm more into the exhibition side of the hobby. I think the editor that was wanting to include the section on cruelty into the main article had their own agenda for doing so? Tagging articles with OPOV comments should be discouraged. I find what happened to be a form of vandalism. Albeit a sophisticated form but still vandalism none the less. Anyhow, on a more positive note. Lots of work to be done on the various pigeon articles. I've started work on a few but they are still mostly at the stub stage in development. List of pigeon breeds I could do with some more photographs as they are lacking of even some of the more common popular breeds. There is a good supply over at Wikimedia under the Dove breed category. Here's a link http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dove_breed If any pigeon photographers are reading this and can help then uploading any spare photos (your own) and in effect giving up the copyright to public domain (so I and others can legally use them) then that would be appreciated. The pics need to be tagged with a GNU Free Documentation License (demo below). Wikimedia requires you to sign up separate from your Wikipedia account but that's not too difficult. Sting au 22:52, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Jack Boden info
There is a red link to where Jack was supposed to be in the "Types" section. It reads as Handsword. No such place right. It's either Handsworth, West Midlands or Handsworth, South Yorkshire. Anyone know for sure so it can be changed? Sting_au Talk 06:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks to Tippler for emailing me the correction. Sting au Buzz Me... 22:10, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
