Talk:Tip of the tongue

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 Tip of the tongue was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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The creation of this page was a group project of Dr. Kent Norman's Spring semester 2006 course, Thinking and Problem Solving, at the University of Maryland, College Park.

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[edit] Three stage neural network model

The "Quantitative Neural Network Model of the Tip-of-the-Tongue Phenomenon Based on Synthesized Memory" paper by Petro Gopych has 5 citations, 3 of which are authored by Petro Gopych and 2 of which are not in English. Since typically models like this are confirmed or critiqued by other scientists and that doesn't appear to be the case for Gopych's research (there are so few citations), I think that having a detailed discussion of Gorpych's research on Wikipedia is inappropriate and this section should be removed or replaced with a few sentences and a citation. What do you guys think? - Connelly 02:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I am not a neuroscientist, but I felt the level of detail covering Gopych's work was a bit much. The section's mention of an "artificial neural network" that is supposedly involved in the recall process seemed odd, also. I second removal of the entire section. Eli lilly 01:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

This article is looking good. Shouldn't History really include the Brown and McNeill paper rather than having a whole section with their names? Then I think that you can expand a little on the two other sections. It would be nice to include the Three-Stage Neural Netowrk model, but I don't know if any of you read Russian. User: Klnorman


Brown and McNeill merged into the History of TOT section. Expanded Current TOT literature section. I do not think we have knowledge of Russian, LOL. User: Dcflyer

[edit] Final Comments 10 May 2006

Very well done. The article reads well and is very interesting. I think that you have done an extremely good with the details and the theories. Final points for the Group part = 49/50. --User:Klnorman

[edit] Good Article nomination has failed

The Good article nomination for Tip of the tongue has failed, for the following reason(s):

It's a very interesting article, but it needs a lead section which summarises the article's contents in about three paragraphs. Worldtraveller 12:06, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback. I will follow your suggestion. -- Dcflyer 22:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Does this article really need a picture of a tongue?

I don't see how a photograph of a tongue bears on the article. I vote to have it removed. It's just a picture for the sake of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulrich kinbote (talk • contribs)

You are correct. The photograph has absolutely no bearing upon the information of the article. It was added so as not to have just a text article. It can be removed. -- Dcflyer 22:54, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
You need a sense of humour. Add the tongue back. -- 201.69.46.21 (talk) 10:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tongue removed.

I removed the image of the tongue as irrelevant to TOT experiences. See discussion.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulrich kinbote (talk • contribs)

[edit] Confusion

I thought the section on the Three Stage Neural Network Model was slightly ambiguous, and hence could be confusing to some readers.

[edit] Dysnomia

The "dysnomia" entry in Wikipedia is a (somewhat incorrect) stub. This article, however, should mention that mild forms of dysnomia, for example the inability to elicit a proper noun on demand ("that actress, what is her name ...?"), are the same experiences as "TOT." Mild dysnomia is a common side effect of medications like mood stabilizers and antidepressants. The difference between the terms, I think, is that TOT is an experience, while dysnomia is a condition. Joseph N Hall 21:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Experiencing TOT

I remember a site from a few years ago that had a small quiz of obscure words to see if readers would experience TOT. I wandered onto this article tonight and had to find that site again here http://mindbluff.com/tipof.htm It might be an interesting addition to the article. It made me feel TOT once or twice while reading it. --Piroteknix (talk) 02:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Darren Brown

I removed "TOT has been utilized by the magician/mentalist Derren Brown to cause subjects to forget their own names in the subway segment of "Mind Control"." because it was uncited and doesn't really add to the article. Before you argue to put it back in find a cite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.106.132 (talk) 19:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)