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[edit] Pawnee Bill & Signatures

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[edit] Miller Brothers 101 Ranch Wild West Show

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[edit] WikiProject Oklahoma

I encourage you to have This article picked up as part of WikiProject Oklahoma.(talk) 20:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 101 Ranch

THe Ranch needs to be a separate article from the Miller Brothers 101 Ranch Show. This way a more knowledgeable person can provide an article on the Ranch (including the wild west show). Jcmcapital (talk) 15:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

It has been suggested that I communicate my suggestions about the 101 Ranch article directly to you. Why I do not understand, but I promised that I’d give it a try.

To this point, I recommend that you/we change the image (The Miller Brothers 101 Ranch Wild West Show wagons) to this:

101 ranch Wild West Show Brochure.
101 ranch Wild West Show Brochure.

. It is more suitable for the subject.

I also recommend that you/we expand the presentation on the 101 Ranch Oil Company and E. W. Marland to this: “The ranch also held extensive oil reserves that were discovered by oil exploration pioneer E. W. Marland who in 1908 founded the 101 Ranch Oil Company. The company’s 1911 oil discovery in North Eastern Oklahoma opened up oil development in a great region in the Eastern and North Central Oklahoma and lead to the founding of the Marland Oil Company, later renamed the Continental Oil Company, Conoco”. This is from the Wikipedia page on the 101 Ranch Oil Company. It offers a broader presentation. Perhaps a footnote referencing the 1960 Moody’s credit rating page (on the Continental Oil Company) would be appropriate. I am writing and expanding the section on the 101 Ranch (not the Wild West Show). I’ll deliver and edit the page when it is ready.Jcmcapital (talk) 02:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

The reason Wikipedia editors instructed you to contact me directly is because Wikipedia strives to present accurate, scholarly information. A scholarly article is based on works written by scholars in order to report research results. Academic papers, as well as scholarly books and articles are the preferred sources of historical data. They are characterized by publication by a professional society, association, or press. Such as the University of Oklahoma. There is a vast difference between a scholarly work and popular writings based on hearsay and written by lay people. Scholars and published academics have established credentials in their field. Wikipedia is not an avenue for lay people to publish hagiography. Lay people who wish to publish this type of thing may want to consider getting their own website. Then they can publish anything that occurs to them, regardless of its basis in fact. An example of misrepresentation is that hand drawn brochure. It is a colored drawing that does not represent the facts. The photographic evidence provided is representative of the actual Miller Brothers 101 Ranch Show.--Tintle (talk) 14:42, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

You are right! I have done some original research, and discovered that what I produced on the 101 Ranch was not good (in fact is was very poor). (Other than what I offered on the 110 Ranch Oil Company and Marland Oil). I will offer a more proper Ranch presentation later.Jcmcapital (talk) 15:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Your note about the acreage is not correct. It should read: Founded on the Cherokee Strip in 1870’s by Colonel George W. Miller, a Confederate veteran and one of the earliest cattlemen in the area, the 101 Ranch grew from a Cherokee Strip cattle ranch operating on 50,000 acres leased Indian lands to include 110,000 acres of which, by 1932, 17,492 were owned by the Miller family with the rest being leased from the Ponca, Pawnee, Otoe, Indians in Kay, Noble, Osage and Pawnee Counties. (This is from Collings' book).Jcmcapital (talk) 02:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

If you submit your original research in academic format to a peer-reviewed journal then you can have it published. Try American Historical Review, Journal of American History, or Great Plains Quarterly.--Tintle (talk) 17:44, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the portion on the ranch (not the show) was not original research. It was footnoted from Collings' work of 1937. That should work here! Please help me understand what is the problem with using Collings' work and footnoting it? ThanksJcmcapital (talk) 00:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

The expansion on the 101 Ranch Oil Company is fully supported by the Moody's footnote and my own family files (all of which have been donated to the CONOCO museum in Ponca City).Jcmcapital (talk) 00:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not allow the use of "family files". Probably there are genealogy sites where you can post your family records. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research --Tintle (talk) 15:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)