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gluwhale pradip somasundaran

Tintin. see the article now. pradip somasundaran is his real name. but since pradeep and somasundaram come to the tongue easily sseems his name is used in both ways at many places. saw a banner of a program in cochin where he is performing with other malayalam singers. his name is used as pradeep somasundaram. so i have mentioned that in the article.got a message from deepu on this... --GlueWhale 12:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Unlikely from the look of things but if you insist on knowing there might be, there is. I needed to do one or two pieces (Malayalam Britannica, Theodore Pappas etc.) under a patent ID. Do you have bots working for you? Cruxit 17:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Please check if I did it in the right way.Cruxit 18:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Did as you directed. It is laborious procedure. Maybe because I am new to it. Btw, Shrikanteshwaram (Shabdataravali compiler) (arguably the only genuine scholar of 20 the cent. Kerala) has no article on him. Cruxit 19:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Kuaichik: Old Malayalam Songs, etc.

Swapnam kandathalla. But it was actually on Deepu's talk page that I said so:

Also, my Amma and Appa always sing old movie songs (sometimes with very clever lyrics)...

I sometimes sing old movie songs myself. One of my favorites is "Thanka Thaazhikakkudam Alla" from Picnic. And of course, anything from Chemmeen (but especially "Puththan Valakkaare!"). --Kuaichik 12:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

By the way, what part of Kerala are you from? Are you from Kochi, too? Or from some other place? --Kuaichik 12:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


stop personal attacks

dear friend tintin, dont use wikipedias pages for exhibiting personal ventures.why you are showering personal attacks on someone . i dont think that chiricheppu is a bad magazine.im a subscriber.it is a good magazine. first you read it.then only attack. that magazine promotes a large number of cartoonists in kerala.you just contact a main stream cartoonist


Cartoonist may not be famous as Kolakolly komban

without a canvas who can draw. s.jithesh and chiricheppu provide canvas to a large number of cartoonists.especially to budding cartoonists.recently director k.g.george commented that g.Aravinden is best as a cartoonist than a film director.havent u read his cartoon strip cheriya lokavum valiya manushyarum(published in mathrubhumi weekly) an artist or a cartoonist may not be famous as a KOLAKOLLY KOMBAN OR A SEVENTH RATED FILM STAR.our journalism is such a type. you deleted the name of kozhikkode abdul khader from the list of famous keralites? i got shocked.

S. Jithesh

Hi, Thanks for the message. I put this up for deletion right after Chiricheppu. I noticed the sudden appearance of User:Adv sreekumar - you'd think lawyers in Kerala had better things to be doing. Dlyons493 Talk 08:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)



defamation is a cyber crime

what is the ground for your suggestion for deletion of an article of the cartoon magazine. == chiricheppu ==is the one and only Political Cartoon Magazine in malayalam.why you are fighting against cartoons and cartoon magazines.we wikipedians are consider that you and your friends are acting as the tools of some nasty politicians who are totally against Chiricheppu .I think this magazine is working as a terminator which destroying anti-social elements in the society.Afer Asadhu and Sarasan magazines Chiricheppu is blooming laughter in the minds of malayalam readers. malicious intention to defame a magazine surely comes under the provisions of cyber crime.search for the details of judgement of keralas firstly filed cyber crime in pathanamthita district court.

Adv. sreekumar, High Court, kochi



Story of Chaplin and tears behind smile

I love walking in the rain Because nobody can see me crying....Chaplin .Did this word touched any heart?Every smile has a story of tears behind... .We the loving readers of chiricheppu tries to realise this truth. go ahead ......No one can delete you from the minds of readers.why people are becoming so much monster-eyed sadistic . why we have to put off the streamig lights of virtue.remember friends....it is very easy to destroy.but creaion is devine and difficult

By

Nileena joseph

,a great fan of poetry and cartoons

Tintin Thanks

Thanks for chipping in on Gayatri's article. Have done two more. One is on Madhu Balakrishnan the rising star of the south. Also one on Hari Sri Vidya Nidhi School which is one of the most prestigious private schools of Trichur and Kerala in the ICSE stream. Please have a look. What is this cyber crime threat from the so called advocate? Vilikkatha sadyakku vannu, vadi koduthu adi vangikkunnnavare kurichu enthu parayaan???? GlueWhale 16:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes true. IAS officers fighting in Wiki! Strange. Have commented on the Deletion page. I will work on some of the names you mentioned. Sure. Madhu and Gayatri was easy as they were very accessible. Now I will move over to our old musicians who are not anywhere here. GlueWhale 08:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Cricket bios

Thanks for spotting those errors Tintin. I have done the Yuvraj and Raina pages as well now. Hopefully someday I can fix up the Ganguly, Dravid, Tendulkar, Inzy and Shoaib Akhtar pages as they mainly consist of vague judgments and anecdotal trivia-facts but lack a proper chronological description. Especially with those guys getting in so much politics with teh captaincy and attitude, etc. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 08:27, 16 August 2006 (UTC).

Hi Tintin. If you've got a spare minute or two, I've just expanded Harbhajan Singh for DYK which you can check for errors. There's still a lot ot be siad about him. Parthiv Patel made it as well the other day (Srikeit picked it!). I'm guessing if I can help finish off the Indian bios more quickly then you'll become a sysop more quickly as well. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 08:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Tintin. It was a copy in the State Library, which means that it can't be borrowed and taken home, so I an't use it as often as books which I borrowed - I can't remember what edition, but the cover was red and it was printed in 2002. For everything else after then, there is comprehensive reports on cricinfo. I also obtained a copy of the "A-Z of Australian cricketers" yesterday for 0.15 US after the library threw it out. :) Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 07:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Great, the cricinfo archive is non-existent for 2001, so we have what we need then. :).Blnguyen | rant-line 07:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

List of suspected socks of User:S.Jithesh

Its better if we keep an eye on these guys, since all they do is contribute to chiricheppu. --Ageo020 00:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Names

I've raised the issue at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Indic). --Soman 11:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Kochi

Take your time, Tintin. No hurry. The stuff given in the history section is pretty accurate, IMO. Only a small missing link about how the English took over Kochi through the Dutch treaty, when Mysore was controlling it. I think the answer is more or less obvious too - The dutch were probably still there and controlling the city while the Kochi King paid the annual loan to Hyder ali.
The article should also mention the stalwarts of the freedom movement in Kochi like Rajith said. -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK14:36, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

You didnt say anything about this. Do you feel more amendments are required for the histroy section? (forget about padmanabhan and the vijana koshams - the detailed history with all the specific details need to be given only in the History of Kochi article.) I did the lead a touch uo today.Now that the edit war has subsided, I hope to take Kochi to FAC in a few days.-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK13:28, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Tintin, I also need more info about the History of Kerala. So please keep me also in the looop along with Deepu. I think that Deepu misspelled my name.

Btw, the Thiruvananthapuram district article is almost ready.. It needs an extensive peer review now. Before going for the official peer review, I request you to review it once..

Thanks and regards,

-- Rajith Mohan :) (Talk to me...) 08:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. i will check that...

-- Rajith Mohan :) (Talk to me...) 08:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
ചിങ്ങമാസം വന്നേ.....ഓണം ഇനി ദിവസങ്ങള്‍ മാത്രം അകലെ... ഈ കാത്തിരിപ്പിനും ഒരു സുഖം.....പുതുവല്‍സരാശംസകള്‍ നേരുന്നു....ഈ വര്‍ഷം സന്തോഷങ്ങളും ഐശ്വര്യങ്ങളും നിറഞ്ഞതായിരിക്കെട്ടെ എന്നാശംസിക്കുന്നു-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK14:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)~

Mayavi

ROFLMFAO, 'am tempted to leave it like that. :)) -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK06:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Think so. I checked up an old issue that was lying around. It says: "Katha:Mohan; Chitreekarnam:Mohan Das". Are they one and the same?-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK07:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
It must still be them. People rarely retire from Manorama - KM Mathew still continues as the chief editor, right? ;-) -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK08:14, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed it is "hreem" too. But I always thought it was "kreem". Also, any idea what the forest was called (if it was called anythign at all)? -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK09:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Btw, who is Putalu? I'm not sure I remember. Is he the big fat giant who lives (or rather sleeps) in a cave? Also, are you sure if he is Lutapi's uncle? -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK09:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused now - did dakini come before kutoosan? Also, I didnt understand the second para of your earlier comment. You mean advertisements that appeared when Mayavi was going to start? I searched a bit, but couldnt find anything about the first Mayavi story. Btw, Madiyan chetto, jump in and edit!!-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK13:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, so is that how Mayavi became friends with Raju and Radha? Interesting...
I'll change the Manorama thing myself. - Finally ;-)) -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK14:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

No, not kapeesh. I never liked him much. Perhaps Suppandi. ;-P -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK14:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Hamo! Kidilan articlu!, lol. Adipoli is still a red link, though. ;-)
I'll send you a mail in a min. -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK13:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Noo... he could become invisible from as long back as I can remember. When he is invisible, he is shown in dotted lines. See the comic strip here.
Silly me. Why did I even upload it to imageshack? see here -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK13:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Maurice Leyland

Sorry, forgot. Will do over weekend. Johnlp 20:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pablo Pérez Gay Rossbach

Things like that just give more ammunition to the "inclustionists" who think that AfD is evil. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Sir Geoffery

Hi, yeah - that was my bad, think my source was incorrect, maybe he meant English batsmen - I thought there were only 2 post war, it didn't mention Bill Johnston (cricketer). I'd realised that, but forgot to change it. I'll do it now. [1]

Best, Mdcollins1984 12:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Malyalam calendar

Please see Malayalam era. in fact I made the edits first to that and then realised it should have been under malayalam Calender. So i reverted the edit there and put a merge template in the Malayalam era. So i think some text came with it from there. I have some general Idea but cannot cite any sources for the Time being. And the later sections in the article needs to be rewritten. activevoid (talk) 15:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Malayalam Era

The earlier article of Malayalam Era and Calendar had similar articles and that is why the article neede to be merged. I think its from kollavarsham the start of year became chingam. you can see the conflict between vishu(which is considered new year in some parts of kerala) and chingam . Era is linked to the present Malayalam Calendar so are direct should be fine Unless we ger some better reasons.activevoid (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Olakka

Ayyyoo!! Daivamae, aa book-u muzhuvannum ayicho? Pinnee, chettante panni kazhiju... inni, njan attu motham vaayikannam, attariyamo?
On another note, Jimboye kaanaan B'lore-il varunno? -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK06:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Me too, I'm doubtful about the trip. Would like to make it, though. -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK14:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Tintin, do you know how to do IPA? Ambuj feels the IPA on Kochi might be incorrect. Everybody seems to be on a wikibreak. Alniko came back as TrueVersion (talk · contribs) today. I want to get this through FAC as soon as possible.-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK08:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Aliyo, Olakayethi. Saadanam kollam, but vayikanakaariyam orthitu... :(
BTW, are you aware of anything important that happened in Kochi after 1960? Should the Coonan Cross Oath be mentioned? -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK10:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)~
And what about Madhavan chettan? Sangamagramma is somewhere around present day Kochi.-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK10:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)~
Shall I move Kochi to FAC? -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK14:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

It's there now. :)-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK18:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm not familiar with it either. It is however, mentioned in many sites. Though only one of them mention it to be Malayalam. Maybe it is Sanskrit? I'll remove that, and the sangamagramma stuff right away.-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK06:26, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
PS: Do you think I should change my sig?
Should the Paliath Achan's revolts be mentioned on the main article? He actually never fought an independence struggle. He only staged a protest against the coming of the Biritish into the region. He lost the battle, and was exiled to Madras too.-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK05:38, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Guruvayur Kesavan

I decided it to put it as fair as a historic picture and this is a very common image.This is the handful of images available of Guruvayur Kesavan. In fact i had got this in the net. But i have'nt used that one. So this image should be available commonly. When it is a very rare photo does it not qualify as {{HistoricPhoto}}—for unique, famous historical photographs. No problem removing it BTW.activevoid (talk) 15:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Gooch

Interesting. Do you think we shouldn't link to that page? But we still need a source for the claim that no other batsman has scored 100 and 300 in the same match.

Stephen Turner (Talk) 12:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Good work finding the reference, thanks. I've changed it in the article. Stephen Turner (Talk) 12:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Sources

Hi Tintin. Hope you're okay. I normally agree about reducing the list of sources but a lot of these player articles are still at the stub stage and have growth potential. Taking Brett as an example, I could certainly add much more info including statistics. The references would then nearly all come into play. To be honest, I went through all of these stubs about old-time players and inserted a list of sources after someone placed citation requests in a couple of them. I do tend to rationalise the sources if I make major additions to each article and that's probably the best approach as the list serves in the meantime to "protect" the article. It's like a lot of things on here: finding the right balance. All the best. --BlackJack | talk page 14:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Bobanum Moliyum, etc.

Is it really? I wasn't sure whether the Bobanum Moliyum site still existed :-D Thanks for visiting my website! I'm considering editing the page on Toms with more info about Bobanum Moliyum. I like some of those comics, but Appa tells me the old ones were better...

I just remembered that my grandmother (Sara John) edits and publishes a children's magazine called Baalamithram (which you may or may not have heard of). Apparently, it was the first children's magazine in Malayalam (or one of the first). It used to be popular throughout Kerala, but now it's running at a loss because my (Valiy)Ammachi is not very good in business :-D Do you think Baalamithram is relevant enough to make an article about? (I wish there was more information available about that magazine, but I think it's currently confined to what Ammachi and Appa can tell me.) --Kuaichik 15:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Balamithram has always been an independent magazine. According to the front cover of various issues, it was "established in 1920." I don't recall ever hearing of Ammachi write anything for any other magazine, least of all Balarama. It's only natural that you don't know about Balamithram, because it really lost popularity after Balarama came out. --Kuaichik 19:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
That'll be pretty hard since there's no information available online. But if I find any print info, I'll let you know. --Kuaichik 14:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Deville's RfA

Hi, Tintin, and thank you for the support on my recent RfA. The final tally was 72/1/0, and I have now been entrusted with the mop. I'll be tentative with the new buttons for a while, and certainly welcome any and all feedback on how I might be able to use them to help the project. See you soon, at The Quiz if nowhere else...:) All the best, and thanks again! — Deville (Talk) 00:26, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you and Onaasamsakal.Nileena joseph 12:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Timed out

Hi. I did an article on Harold Heygate anyway, because I think the story is such a good one. Johnlp 18:03, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Tintin. On the Grace obit question, I replied to you and JH on the Fuller Pilch talk page: you were right. On Heygate, Wisden says "there remained ample time to finish the match". I can probably add a few more paragraphs to that if you think it's interesting: Foot's book, for instance, has a mid-pitch conference between the two captains (Wilson of Sussex was the not out batsman) over whether Sussex had previously told Somerset that Heygate would not bat; he also writes that the likely source of the appeal for "timed out" was Len Braund. Johnlp 16:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you so much for the barnstar, Tintin. :)
Your help has always been invaluable.-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK 06:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar Thanks

Hello, Tintin. That was a surprise and much appreciated. Thank you very much. I have always valued my independence so, yes, oddball sums me up: that I am  ;-)

I'm currently looking at the history of the English county clubs as we haven't covered that off. Do you think there is similar scope for the clubs in India?

Thanks again and very best wishes. --BlackJack | talk page 06:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar Thanks II

Thank you very much Tintin, I'm very flattered. I still think of what I do as an elderly man's pottering, not as something coherent or useful. So I'm very grateful that someone should take the time to suggest otherwise. Johnlp 07:12, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Benaud

Sorry for the edit conflict previously. Copyediting/corrections welcome. --I@n 08:45, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually you probably didn't see it. -- I@n 08:45, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
He has written a few more books [2]. I don't know which of these are famous and which are not.
I don't know either, perhaps they should all be added. One of the books listed in that link says it's authored by "Louis Richard Benaud, Richie Benaud". Do you know if his full name is Louis Richard Benaud or is this another person? Cricinfo says his full name is Richard Benaud. -- I@n 06:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. -- I@n 06:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Godfrey Evans

Hi, Tintin. Evans is definitely not the man being interviewed (no idea who that is) but he might be the one second right standing next to Peter West, who is the interviewer. But as you say it doesn't really look like him. This must have been long after Evans retired. I don't know who posted the image but I presume it's his own shot, probably from the 1970s. --BlackJack | talk page 08:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I just spotted this discussion. Evans is definitely the cricketer second from right, and I'd estimate the picture in the mid to late 1960s, because by about 1970 Evans had grown substantial mutton-chop sideburns (it looks like he's started growing them in this picture, but they're not at their full luxuriance yet). Also the other people in the photo look 1960s rather than anything much later. Surely the cricketer on the right is Jim Laker and I don't think the interviewer is Peter West, who I remember having very smooth, unruffle-able, Brylcreemed hair. I think it looks like Frank Bough. Is the chap being interviewed Doug Wright? Or Fred Ridgway? I don't have a picture of Ridgway and the only one I can find of Wright looks a bit like this one, but only a bit. Johnlp 11:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello Tintin. I think John might be right though I don't know about Ridgway: can't recall what he looked like. But it does look like Laker's profile and, on closer examination, I think the interviewer is Bough. I assumed he was Peter West because of the cricket connection. Could it have been an International Cavaliers occasion, I wonder? I've copied this to John too. --BlackJack | talk page 13:54, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I found a picture of Ridgway, and it definitely isn't him! Wright is likely, as he's wearing a Kent sweater, and Jack's thought that it might be an International Cavaliers game is a good one, because I remember they were televised on BBC2 in the late 1960s before the advent of the Sunday League. Evans and Laker certainly played for them. So did Bert Sutcliffe of New Zealand, who looked a bit like our mystery chap, but I can't think why Sutcliffe would wear a Kent sweater. Johnlp 14:28, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

It suddenly looks the obvious answer when the 1960s is mentioned. It says in the image that it was taken in 1991. It assumed it to be true and did not even consider the possibility that the person who looks like Laker could be Laker ! Tintin (talk) 05:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Kerala

Yes, I thought of that too, but couldn't find a map of Idukki with Marayoor to confirm. So I kept my mouth shut.:P I just noticed that the article mentions Kerala as the southernmost state in India. That's not the case, is it? The southernmost state is TN, right?-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK 14:22, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

This might interest you. You can include it in your film list. BTW, Happy Onam!!-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK 05:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

"Onam dhina aashamsagal" (Hope it's not terrible.) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Achoo...no holiday for Onam? Kashtam, hehe. Evide payasathinnu nalla swaadu..aaahhh. ;-) -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK 05:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kumaranalloor Mani

Hi Tintin, even with your message, a well meaning admin is probably going to go around to close this. Would you like me to transcribe it onto today's AfD log so it stays open for another 5 days? -- Samir धर्म 06:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I think the best thing is to have the article merged into Mayilattam. The topic is so obscure, that I doubt anybody is going to come up to develop it. Later on, once we have solid refs, we can start the article again.-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK 06:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
PS: Do you also get a "new messages" bar on top of the AfD page? I tried clearing my cache, restarting my browser, but it's still there. Am I seeing things?!!
Phew, its gone now, when Samir edited it...-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK 06:31, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey, of course I clicked on it. C'moon, I'm not that dumb. I clicked not once, but five times. It was appearing ONLY on the AfD page too. Ahh..dunno.-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK 06:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting that crap from my talk page. :)-- thunderboltz(Deepu) 09:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

JPD's RfA

Thanks, Tintin, for your support at my RfA, which finished with a tally of 94/1/0. I hope I live up to the confidence you have shown in me in my activities as an administrator. JPD (talk) 16:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Tintin1107/Status

Hi there Tintin. I was a bit surprised that Yuvraj and Harbhajan were on the completed list before I expanded them (I still don't think they are completed), but I think every article needs to be mostly a chronological account rather than anecdotes and vague assertions, which means that the Dravid and Tendulkar pages aren't finished, let alone Sehwag, Pathan,......Anyway, I noticed that Yograj is still in the stub cat, and it appears Sreesanth and Munaf Patel aren't even on the list. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 04:54, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I've taken the rather amibtious task of fixing Dravid up at User:Blnguyen/Rahul Dravid and also Virender Sehwag - is it just me or I can't think of any ODIs which weren't like all the others? I can't think of much to say about ODIs - they'll both end up with 85% Test chronological career. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Is it just me or do you have problems identifying non-homogeneities in people's ODI careers? Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 08:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Sehwag is up for peer review - Wikipedia:Peer review/Virender Sehwag/archive1. We haven't had an FA on a modern cricketer so far so it might be good to set a mark. Also the Brian Close seems to be an FA with quite a few vagaries, so perhaps I should be more liberal.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:48, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Tintin. I'm not working on any writing atm, just monitoring my watchlist for the uncaught vandalism and bad edits but I will return. thanks, Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 07:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Onam

Belated Onam ashamsakal. Jisha C J

My look alike

Re: [3]

Perhpas - to some extent. Would you like to have my pictures. Please e-mail me. And, sorry for the very late response. I was listening to tin-tin-tin, and feeling happy talking to you. --Bhadani 13:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Roy Ullyett

Hi. Yes, possibly, though I wasn't a fan. He wrote an autobiography a few years ago, but I don't have it. I'm afraid the Daily Express was on the banned list in our house when I was a child as politically suspect! Johnlp 14:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Kiriku pidikathirikan oru Cric break

Hi Tintin! Could you take a look at User:Deepujoseph/sandbox1? I'm planning on a redesign of the technicalities behind the Kerala portal. You can notice that the selected article process is automated on this one. A simple code within the portal selects a random article from the selected pool and displays it each time the page is accessed. This techniques can help us save precious time in portal maintenence. I know the design's pretty sloppy.(not modesty here, but blunt truth). I was trying to make something different, as the present design of Portal:Kerala is ripped directly from Portal:India. Do you preffer these boxes or the present ones? What about the colour? If you prefer the India portal's design (like me), we can integrate the code into it. I need a few suggestions to move forward. -- thunderboltz(Deepu) 15:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Haha. No probs, take your time. I have my own share of vattu-s to deal with for now. :)-- thunderboltz(Deepu) 06:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Tintin, what do you say to an Afd for List of Nair and Ezhava Tharavadus? I seriously doubt their worth in an encyclopedia. Mostly unverified stuff too.-- thunderboltz(Deepu) 10:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

John Reid(s)

Thanks for pointing out my error - the other Reid was about six years old at the time, which would really have been a record! I've slightly reworded it before adding the info back to the correct article (John Richard Reid), but I do think it's reasonable to keep a mention of Mohsin Khan, since a) scoring 100 out of 135 (74% of the runs) is notable in itself, however many wickets fell, and b) since it's in the lead by a long way as the lowest Test total to include a century; the Reid-related 159 is still second on that list. Loganberry (Talk) 15:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey Tintin, I returned more than a month after and find the note you left me. 59.91.253.213 06:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC) It was a distasteful one- Savemalayalam. You helped me weed out one impostor.

T. A. Sekhar

You're absolutely right. My mistake. The spacing looks dead wrong to me, but looking at other articles, that does appear to be the convention. Sorry for the mix-up. I was just trying to get rid of a stale merge tag. Skeezix1000 13:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Kumaranalloor Mani

A belated thanks for this one. Many of the admins would have decided to retain it on the basis of votes. Mayilattam is a very obscure art form and even if you live in Kerala, chances aren't very good that you are familiar with it (I think I have seen it twice in twenty odd years). Apart from me, there was only one vote from a person in Kerala and he chose to delete. We did try to get others from this part of the world to comment but they didn't, probably because they weren't sure themselves. Good decision to give more weight to the complete lack of evidence than to the votes of editors. Tintin (talk) 08:42, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Wow, an admin got thanked for ignoring a vote count? Must be a Wikipedia first!...:D At least a first for me.
Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence. I would have liked to keep it, and I was hoping that someone was going to come through with a source, but (unfortunately for Kumaranalloor) there is that whole WP:V thing. Best, Deville (Talk) 14:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Prod?

Sounds like a hoax. But the person seems be a deletionist himself. Give me a day to go through Sreedhara Menon's Survey of Kerala history that I got my hands on just yesterday. I noticed it has a few pages on ancient ports in Kerala. BTW, should that guy be asked to change his username?-- thunderboltz(Deepu) 10:37, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Could you please take a look at the message he left on my talk page? I'm not too familiar with the word. BTW, we need a criteria for entry into List of famous Keralites. How famous should the person be? Should politicians be entered?(MA Baby made an entry today) What about actors like John Abraham, Vidya Balan and Asin?-- thunderboltz(Deepu) 11:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey Tintin and Deepu, Give a respite to your suspicion on Kuntayithote for a week or so. I am going to improve that article (with no original research thrown in, of course). Leave Sreedhara Menon alone, Deepu. He is a rightist text book writer of Travancore alone, and with a badly wretched agenda to boot. He might be a good peruser of erstwhile Travancore goverment's official documents (including those on dispensation to prostitutes), but hardly a historian. There was some invaluable papers on the matter in History Department of Calicut University. The last information I had was most of them being destroyed either by lack of conservation or by the hands of ignorant vandals. You must have heard of some controversty that appeared in the press about three years ago centring round the disappearnce of one palanaquin kept there. K.K.N. Kurupu (an extremely ignorant and psuedo historian cum EMS-quotation monger) raised a hullabaloo on that since the thing came out when his follower was in office. In fact, the research part (in mid 70's I doubt) is highly dubious and mired in mystery. M.G.S. Narayanan and K.K.N. Kurupu (at the time he was the protege of the former though now they never lose an opportunity to show their hostility to each other in public) kept the research and the findings off limelight because Ragahva Varier was the leader of the team that made the discovery. As you know, Mr. Narayanan was an undisputed voice (leftist too) in those days. Tintin, if you pronounce your name either in the original Belgian way or in the second hand French way, it would sound very coarse to some regional ears near Vatakara. I imply nothing other than mentioning in passing the deceptive jar certain sounds evoke. Still worse, thunderballz (thunderthighs is an Indianism in the same vein) in forum slang would mean very capable male genitalia. There is no offence meant in these comments, mind you. Both of you are rare speciamens of sensible users among a plethora of **** from Kerla.Kuntan 15:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Sandham and sandbox

Hi Tintin.

Wisden is a bit opaque on the Test question. The 1933 edition lists, as all preceding ones have done, the matches between England, Australia and South Africa, but also mentions that Tests were played between New Zealand and South Africa at the end of the 1931-32 South African tour of Australia. There is no mention of Tests between England and West Indies, New Zealand or India. The 1934 edition has all the Tests in and includes England v West Indies in 1928 and the four matches in 1929-30, as well as the New Zealand matches in 1929-30 and 1931, plus the India matches in 1932.

In the actual reports, the 1931 Wisden calls all the matches on the two 1929-30 tours "representative". But there's inconsistency here, because the 1929 Wisden calls the 1928 games with West Indies "Test matches", and the 1932 and 1933 Wisdens do the same for the home games against New Zealand and India the previous summers.

I have a suspicion there was an Imperial Cricket Conference (or some such) that did these things retrospectively around the time of Bodyline, but I'll have to dig elsewhere for that. Sandham's Test career would have looked pretty unimpressive without the West Indies tour, I suspect.

By all means use my sandbox for your murderous intent! I haven't yet decided what to do with the road accidents, and as jguk's list of the deaths of English cricket captains is under attack, I suspect our collection of cricketing morbidiana will have to stay under wraps for a while. I expect you've got Ashley Harvey-Walker already, have you? and Jeff Stollmeyer? I'll look forward to seeing it. Johnlp 20:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Tintin. Re Hookes, I think we ought to be cautious. Murder is a specific criminal offence and my recollection is that it was decided that no charges of that sort were to be brought in Hookes' case. So to say he was murdered is potentially libellous against those people who were identified as being in the vicinity when incidents happened. I've added another road accident victim, by the way, and have another that I'm trying to find in Cricinfo. Johnlp 11:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I don't think I would have anything on Rashid Patel and Lamba. In fact, I didn't know about the incident. Sorry. It sounds interesting. Johnlp 19:43, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Returning to the initial question rather belatedly (apologies, I'm badly busy in real life at present).

In 1909, the Imperial Cricket Conference adopted some slightly contradictory policies. Under "Rules for Test Matches", it said: "Test Matches are those played between Representative Elevens of England and of Australia and of South Africa, also between Elevens of Australia and South Africa." Under "Qualification for Representation" it said: "The governing bodies of cricket in countries within the Empire to which cricket teams are sent or which send teams to England are entitled to send two representatives of such governing bodies to the Imperial Cricket Conference." Under "Definition of Test Matches" it then said: "Test matches are matches played between sides duly selected by recognised governing bodies of cricket representing countries within the Empire."

On 20 May 1930, there was a meeting at Lord's of the Imperial Cricket Conference. This suggested new rules, of which the relevant one is: "Test matches are matches played between sides duly selected by governing bodies of Cricket recognised by the Imperial Conference as representing countries within the Empire." The new rules were "unanimously recommended" but then submitted to the various countries' boards for approval, and not to come into effect until that was done. At the end of the notes, it says: "Formal approval was given to the West Indies Tour in Australia during 1930-1931."

These new rules were formally adopted at a further ICC meeting at The Oval on 29 July 1931, to come into effect on 1 September 1931. Presumably the various boards of control had approved them in the intervening year.

I can't find any reference to when the various boards of control (which are presumably the "governing bodies of Cricket recognised by the Imperial Conference as representing countries within the Empire") were formed, except that the Indian board (Board of Control for Cricket in India) was formed in 1928, according to a report by Ron Roberts and Dicky Rutnagur in The Barclays World of Cricket book (which isn't always entirely accurate!)

Nor can I find any reference to when the matches played prior to 1 September 1931 were retrospectively granted Test status, though the fact that the West Indies tour to Australia in 1930-31 is singled out as "approved" suggests that a fairly relaxed view was being taken.

From 1931 to 1937, the ICC was notionally charged with approving all Test match players as being eligible; the 1937 ICC meeting decided to amend that particular rule so that governing bodies needed to submit for ICC approval only the names of players where there was the potential for dispute about eligibility.

All of the above comes from rather tucked-away reports in various Wisdens from 1930 to 1938, except for the bit from the Barclays book. Somewhere in the back of my brain I know there's a book that spells all of this out, but I can't remember what it is, or even whether I have a copy. Johnlp 20:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Here's something that might help this and your other discussion below. Second section. [4] Johnlp 20:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

India was represented at both ICC meetings in 1926, but the other "newcomers" (West Indies and New Zealand) both came up with proposals for Tests and tours, which suggests India wasn't in a position to do likewise. Presumably because no governing body had yet been formed? MCC were meant to visit India in 1930-31, and that is first mentioned in about 1929, again presumabl;y because a board had been formed. I'll try to look more at the weekend, but am badly busy during the week this week (and possibly over the weekend too). Johnlp 22:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Indian cricket team

Hey, I took a look at it and made a few tweaks and compared it with the history section on Manchester City F.C. (although that's a football team so it'll have different things to write on). I see your point but I'm not sure what exactly can be done. Nobleeagle (Talk) 05:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Anandji Dossa

If you want any more data on him, I might be able to help. Just send me some questions and I'll try and dig up some info for you to add to the article. Jayen Ashar 17:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


A surprise

May be pleased to buy Bhashaposhini 2006 september issue N' read page 74. Nileena joseph 14:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Kochi

Hehe.. I know I goofed up. I reverted before your message itself. Been sleep deprived for the last whole week. Looks like it's started taking toll on me. I read it as Vietnamese instead of Venitian. :P-- thunderboltz(Deepu) 07:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


Amarnath

Hello Tintin,

Got your message about Amarnath, thanks! I agree that we have conflicting information about whether it was a six. I have changed the wording to "boundary" rather than "six".
What is more important to me is the fact that he stood up to the bowling rather than being intimated. It would still be equally remarkable if he had missed the ball entirely and been hit again.

Regards,

Jayanta Sen 02:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

First-class cricket records

I had the same thought about Pettini and runs per over, but couldn't find any details either. Unfortunately the verifiability requirement means we can't report it until it's published somewhere; I shan't be too sad to wait until the updated footnote in Wisden 2007. I will put Kandamy in instead of Styris, as I agree with you that 52 at 100% trumps 53 at 98.1%! I will add a footnote about Pettini's 100%. --RobertG ♬ talk 08:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey Tintin, will you please check a worthy Malayalam reference and find what kuntan is about? Kuntan 07:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Aren't you aware that it is a proper name (specific to certain communities) in Kerala? Kuntan 08:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

You are wrong!

By refusing to leave messages on my talkpage, you are observing untouchability, I am afraid. We won't talk further until you leave the messages in their proper place. Kuntan 08:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Che che che, idiot I am. You left them in the right place. Sorry. Kuntan 08:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
When a dispute occurs around a word, I expect you to rely on references rather than on popular consciouness. Kuntan is not new to Malayalam. It has been there for a long time before it took the meaning you say it has in some slang. Most importantly it is a proper name still in use in Kerala. Your disgust has something to do with your background which may be alien to the marginalised communities, rather than with any inherent fault of the word. It is a pity that sensible users waste time on a non-issue. Kuntan 08:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:CRIQ

A courteous note to let you know it's still your turn... --Dweller 12:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


Amazing

Your knowledge in the field of Cricket is amazing! My hearty congrats. Nileena joseph 04:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

No

... that was Afzal Khan. Rama's arrow 12:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Btw, whenever you have time, please do me a favor and visit Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow 2 and the FACs of Kazi Nazrul Islam and Dhaka. Cheers, Rama's arrow 12:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Harris and the ICC

I'm afraid that I can't shed any further light on the subject of when India formally joined the ICC.. I based what I put in the Lord Harris article on [5]. I've had a look in Barxlay's World of Cricket, an encyclopaedia published in 1980. All I could find was: "...India had to form a central organizing body before she could be afforded Test status and the Board of Control for Cricket in India came into being in 1928..." I can't find any mention of when India formally was admitted to the ICC.

It's possible that the "Notes by the Editor" in editions of Wisden around that time might throw some light, and those are available on Cricinfo. JH 17:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Please, open your eyes, Sir !

I recently stumbled upon this message of yours : " I have followed dab's actions on and off for a few months and have never had any reason to question his fairness, culture or manners. Tintin (talk) 05:49, 19 September 2006 (UTC)" How do you explain, then, that Mr Dieter Bachmann has spreaded so much hatred and resentment around, that he has been obliged to block his own User-Talk page ?.. I personally consider Mr Bachmann as the worse kind of dictator, whose only aim is to impose on Wikipedia his own views. Let me quote an example having nothing to do with politics, or nationalism, or religion, etc. Please, go to the WP article on the Phaistos Disk. It's a well known fact that, for many good motives like the quality of its clay or the design of its hieroglyphs, most scholars think that this very old artifact (c. 1650BC !) is not the work of the Cretans/Minoans. But this is not Mr Bachmann's opinion. So, helped by his puppets-friends, he has deleted -for the false and ridiculous motive that any person criticizing his POV would be the sockpuppet of a specific banned user. No proofs given of that, of course !!!- the second part of a redaction respecting the NPOV, i.e. (I quote from memory) : "Mr X... believes that the Disk is certainly Cretan; but this opinion is not shared by most specialists ! Do you consider this as "fairness", "culture" and "respect of the NPOV-rule", Sir ? (An anonymous WP-user, who is not alone in thinking that Mr Dieter Bachmann is a disgrace to the Wikipedia spirit).


Please Note

See the page User talk:Joshigeorge. This man edited his own article Joshy George and supplied his own stupidities to wikipedia. I think it is pure vanity. please check! There is no proof to extablish his notability. Actually the original article was about a cartoonist.I had checked it before a month. But somebody blanked the page and made absolute change to the original article. Now the article seems to be the biography of a non notable american malayali. So this article should be considered for Afd .Am I right? What is ur opinion?I'm week in It field. You may be pleased to confirm his notability. Nileena joseph 11:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)