Talk:Tino rangatiratanga

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Is it one word or two? In the title it appears as one word, but in the article, it appears as two words: tino raratiratanga. Danny

It should be two but the link I built off spelled it as one and I don't know how to fix it - it'd be good if you could do so! Lisiate

I just did it, but for the record "Move this Page" is on the link bar to the left. Click on that when you're on the main article page, and it will ask where you want to move it to and if you want to move the talk page too. Type in the new title and leave the box checked (almost always) so the talk page goes with it, and the page is moved. Tokerboy

Cheers for that, I'll be able to do it now!! Lisiate

TinorangaTiratanga is one word because we never wrote anything down (except maps maybe ,lol) but if you break it down it's 4 words -tino,ranga,tira,tanga, and can thoeretically be 8 -ti-ro,ra-nga,ti-ra,ta-nga NewB4Life 06:35, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toa Warriors?

Somebody speedy deleted an article, Toa Warriors, containing this:

The Toa Warriors are an Iwi based New Zealand gang, formed by the Tino Rangatiratanga movement who started off as a small group of rallying individuals and have since grown into a large united national Maori and/or Polynesian 'Union' or 'Alliance'. The Toa Warriors as a gang or mob like the Blackpower or Mongrel Mob is not recognised by any Warriors(Members)or any Associates or people associated with them, and that to be a Toa Warrior was considered a Great Honour and to be a leader or more or rather a Rangatira was the main goal, Māori youth of all kinds of backrounds aspired to be.

I can't find a way to verify it, but I got permission to undelete it and so I've brought the material here for discussion. Is this is verifiable, does it pertain to a movement among New Zealanders of Maori or more broadly Polynesian descent? Currently I've got the article Toa Warriors pointing at this article with a view to merging the information here, but don't want to insert inaccurate or unsourced material. --Tony SidawayTalk 16:10, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

  • They must be a fairly obscure group. As a New Zealander I've never heard of them. I'd hold off mentioning them here until you've got a bit more detail about them. Lisiate 21:00, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll delete the redirect (at least for now). If they're hithat obscure then they shouldn't be on Wikipedia. --Tony SidawayTalk 17:36, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Never heard of them either - Toa Warror seems a strange phrase. I don't suppose there's any connection to the fictional Toa Aotearoa of Once Were Warriors? 166.83.21.221

actually Tony, i'd love to see that redirect -i can't get enough of this internet thing. i just google'd [define:tinorangatiratanga] and, wuite frankly, i was disgusted at my findings btw. Oh and "does anyone have a friend who could put a nice link at the bottom of the "whakapapa" wiki-page to a good site for Maori' to track their geneology/"roots mun roots", 'cos i don't know atm where to go but 'the te-reo path' ,and it would be nice to see that link there? NewB4Life 06:32, 9 January 2006 (UTC) hi cn u plese tel me about tino rangatiratanga when?where?and what? plese thank u

Toa actually means Warrior in Maori, but id assume it came from Ngati Toa (Maori tribe, from porirua to blenheim)warriors..?

[edit] "Kawana" - Bad grammar

Kawana was also used prior to 1840 of the Governor of New South Wales.

Doesn't make sense?

  • Amended to now read "Kawana was also used prior to 1840 to describe the Governor of New South Wales." Lisiate 21:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)