Talk:Tin Woodman

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I have made extensive revisions to this article as part of an effort of mine to upgrade and improve the articles for Oz characters. The old article was basically only about the character as he appears in the classic books. I have added information about the subsequent movie as well as the modern revisionist works. --MatthewUND 05:24, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

I've moved this article from "Tin Woodsman" to "Tin Woodman". Though both names are in common use, "Tin Woodman" was the original name penned by L. Frank Baum, who thought it would be entertaining to have an oxymoronic name (is he tin, or is he wood?). If I ever find the relevant quote from the annotated edition, I'll add it in here. The article looked a bit silly under "Tin Woodsman" when the image was so clearly labelled "Tin Woodman". Finally, there were slightly more wikilinks to the page through the old "Tin Woodman" redirect. --Woggly 09:05, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

I added some bibliography and references to the political allegory interepretation (carefully noting that it is disputed territory). Not disputed is the fact that the Tin Man has a long history in European and American culture before 1900. RJensen Rjensen 02:56, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 McFarlane toy removed 2 Commercial 3 Paradox in Oz 4 Literature's First Cyborg?

[edit] McFarlane toy removed

I've removed the following from the article:

• In Todd McFarlane's action figure line "The Twisted Land of Oz", the Tin Woodman is a zombie with machinery attached to him; in the accompanying story, he was a mad scientist in a past life who took people's body parts and attached them to his own failing body.

I don't think that this toy line is sufficiently notable to merit inclusion in the article for the Tin Man, and have already asked if there are any objections at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oz and Talk:McFarlane Toys. If anyone has evidence that this toy line and its accompanying story were particularly noteworthy (e.g. coverage in mainstream media), it can be restored. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commercial

A Chef Boy R De commercial shows him being dressed as a can of the tinned food being chased by kids and adults. 65.163.112.225 07:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

And that's mentioned in the article. See Tin Woodman#Depictions on stage and screen, seventh paragraph. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:00, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paradox in Oz

I've removed the following paragraph from the "Classic books" section:

In Paradox in Oz, a rather sinister version of Nick Chopper is discovered as the body guard of the Evil Wizard who rules the Grim Obsidian City that has replaced the Emerald City. Apparently human still, he is armed with an axe that he shows no hesitation in using, attacking Ozma on the orders of his wicked master. When the fairy girl tries to plead to the good man she knew, Nick is unmoved, because he "has no heart."

I assume this is referring to the 2000 book by Edward Einhorn, published by Hungry Tiger Press? If so, it really ought to be in the "modern fiction" section, if it's notable enough to merit inclusion at all. Can someone verify that the 2000 book is what's being talked about here, and judge whether it merits inclusion in the article? Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 03:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

That is the book referred to. It's widely available (carried by most comic shops, though it's a novel with illustrations), and is more or less an orthodox Oz book that delves into the concept of parallel universes. --Scottandrewhutchins 13:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

D'you think it's important enough to be included in the "Modern fiction" section? (Ideally, we'd determine this by finding reviews, etc., but the article isn't quite up to that standard yet.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 03:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Literature's First Cyborg?

Since the Tiktok page mentions the fact that Tiktok is literature's first robot, should Nick's page mention that he's literature's first cyborg? Unless that title is held by someone else (which is highly unlikely), I don't see why that little fact shouldn't be mentioned. --Promus Kaa (talk) 06:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)