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[edit] Catiline vandalism and abuse

Hey Tim, me again. Wondering whether you could help me out with this one. I logged on to see what Wikipedia had about Catiline the other day, and was astonished by the POV rant that was the lead paragraph. Looking at the history I saw that it had been added quite recently by a user whose name was just their IP address; accordingly I reverted it to the last sensible version, explaining that the revision was POV. I didn't see it as being necessary to take the matter to the Talk page.

Checking back today I see that the same user has re-reverted back to their version several times, after numerous users have reverted it exactly as I first did, and violating 3RR over several days. Checking the talk page, however, I find a rather abusive (and historically questionable, but since I don't have sources to hand I don't particularly want to get into that debate) rant about myself and the reversions from the user.

As an admin, would you mind taking a look at the page, giving your comments and seeing whether there's any action that can be taken against this creature? Lordrosemount —Preceding comment was added at 11:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I've put the page on watch. As there haven't been any problems for 24 hours I won't protect it now but if the problem recurrs I'll put mild protection on. Some admins have left warning notices so if there's repeat action then blocks can be considered. Timrollpickering 12:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Wow, that was quick, thank you! I'll be watching it too; I hadn't actually noticed the admin comments, so thank you for alerting me. Lordrosemount 12:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vince Cable

I have to say that I have never seen him referred to as anything other than Vince Cable in the BBC and other national media. Since Wikipedia policy is to use common name for article titles (whether that is a nickname or not), I'm not sure why you consider Vincent Cable to be more appropriate. The name by which he is most commonly known by the population at large is Vince Cable, ergo that should be our title. -- Necrothesp 12:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I've seen "Vincent Cable" quite a bit, include tellingly his own website and "Vince Cable" has always seemed like "Ming Campbell" - a common casual form but rarely used in a more formal written style (a very different case from "Tony Blair"). Timrollpickering 12:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Although you will note the sidebar entries on his own website! That implies he frequently calls himself Vince. -- Necrothesp 13:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
And he's also using "Vincent" a lot - the three most recent news stories on the front page go for "Vincent" - and some go for both names in the same text such as the contact page. It's not the most consistent presentation of a single name form, but the URL and, more crucially, the banner headline go for "Vincent", suggesting that's the preferred form for writing but it doesn't seem 100% clearcut either way. Perhaps this is why his local party at times resort to "Dr Cable" - see http://twickenhamlibdems.co.uk/pages/MPlinks.html (although as they also have a page about "Sir Mingis Campbell" and other names - http://twickenhamlibdems.co.uk/pages/SirMingLinks.html - I wonder how much of that site has been put through any style guide or equivalent). Timrollpickering 13:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Wikipedians by alma mater and subcats

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Wikipedians by alma mater and subcats. Since you participated in the deletion discussion for these categories, you might want to participate in the deletion review. - auburnpilot talk 17:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shadow Cabinets

How do you explain this then?

http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/libdems.cfm

Maybe it's time Wiki changed all the relating articles? Qwerty1985 (talk) 11:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

This one has been an ongoing issue for ages. The Parliament website is using info the webmaster was given by the Lib Dem parliamentary party. The contentious nature of the assumed titles is an ongoing issue and this has been raised before - see the talk page for the frontbench team. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:06, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Names in infoboxes / Harold Macmillan

Hi Tim, I haven't been following the arguments, my concern, having seen increasing instances lately, was that such a change was put through as a minor edit, in breach of Help:Minor edit, which depending upon editors account configuration setup, they may not see. Dunno if you're aware of these Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) & Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Other non-royal names -- John (Daytona2 · talk) 11:18, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Names in infoboxes

Good idea. I'll comment there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesocialistesq (talk • contribs) 22:00, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject Universities Newsletter: Issue III (November 2007)

The November 2007 issue of the WikiProject Universities newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you for your continued support of WikiProject Universities! Noetic Sage 19:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities/COTF

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I have started the COTF project. Please nominate your article for the Editor Nominated Topic ASAP. We'll have results for our first COTF on Thursday, 06 DEC 2007. The First COTF will span from 07 DEC 2007 ~ 20 DEC 2007. This will give us time to experiment with the project and measure the level of our success. As always, I appreciate feedback. Sorry if the instructions seem like I'm the COTF dictator. I'm just trying to get things running...and when we get things on the road we can talk about rotating the moderator position as necessary. Thanks for your support thus far! - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 07:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Discussion - MMUnion

You may be interested in this

[edit] AfD nomination of MMUnion

An article that you have been involved in editing, MMUnion, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MMUnion. Thank you.

[edit] academics, scholars, etc.

Hi timrollpickering -- Some of the folks who commented on a recent CFD for Category:Journalism academics are continuing the conversation on organization academics versus scholars; the conversation is primarily at Category talk:Journalism academics. I noticed you had commented on Category talk:Academics a while back on this very issue & that you're still active in these areas, so I thought you might have opinions or perspectives that would be helpful to figuring out a good approach. Cheers, Lquilter (talk) 16:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Westminster St George's by-election

Hi, I've just added a brief page here on that by-election. It's very inadequate and, as I believe at some stage in the distant past, you expressed an interest in adding something, I thought I should say something. Out of interest which book is it you have with a chapter about it? Uncantabrigian (talk) 17:20, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

It's By-elections in British politics edited by Chris Cook & John Ramsden (UCL Press, 1997) ISBN 1-85728-535-2 and the chapter is by Gillian Peele. Timrollpickering (talk) 18:16, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas

Blessed editing, and...
Marlith T/C 00:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Next COTF Editor Nominated Topic

Hey! I was just reminding you that a new round of WP:UNI/COTF will start this Friday. Please feel free to nominate the next Editor Nominated Topic by this Thursday on the WP:UNI/COTF#Nominations page. Thanks! - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 03:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coningsby Club

Hi - just noticed your interest (if that's not too weak a word) in Conservative politics and wondered if you'd be able to add a well-sourced article on the Coningsby Club? I tried to stop the existing stub getting deleted a couple of weeks ago, but in vain (and being a LibDem myself, and a historian of the 16th rather than the 20th century, I wasn't sure where to go for reliable sources that would demonstrate notability). Or perhaps you think it isn't really that notable anyway? (I'd be happier with the assessment coming from someone who knows, rather than from an American undergrad who doesn't even know what a dining club is). --Paularblaster (talk) 11:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A new round of WP:UNI/COTF will start at midnight!

The current University Collaborations of the Fortnight are:
Editor Nominated Topic East Carolina University
B-Class Improvement Drive Mills College
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Every fortnight three higher education-related topics, stubs, or red linked articles are chosen for you to improve. Be bold!
This COTF is organized by Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities. (Nominate future collaborations or see past collaborations.)
This WP:UNI/COTF is effective: Apr 18, 2008 ~ May 01, 2008.

The new WikiProject Universities Collaboration of the Fortnight has been set and a new round will start on Dec 21, 2007 and will last through New Years until Jan 03, 2008. This will give our fellow editors time to celebrate as well as focus on getting Harvard University up to GAN/FAR.

Please express your opinions, problems, hardships, challenges, comments, questions, or other words of wisdom regarding this COTF to the COTF talk page's COTF 2 Talk Topics.


Happy Holidays and Happy Editing!

- Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 04:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] British English

Please help me improve the precision and nuance of my English language skills. To be quite clear, I'm not questioning your edit of an introductory paragraph in an article about a British academic. Rather, I'm wanting to make myself better informed so that I'm less likely to make the same subtle mis-step in future. Perhaps you will recall editing

I hope it's an easy question to address -- but I obviously don't quite appreciate the preference choice of "staff" over "faculty" in this SOAS setting. I'd appreciate it if you'd elucidate, if you have the time and inclination. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 19:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

The term "faculty" is hardly ever used in the UK to mean "academic staff" (on the rare occasions it is, it's almost always with an eye to US consumption). In the UK a "faculty" is one of the main academic divisions of an institution - e.g. "Faculty of Humanities", "Faculty of Social Science" etc... Using it for the staff is highly confusing. Hope that helps. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Something which may interest you

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[edit] Something which may interest you

WP:UNIONISMTraditional unionist (talk) 14:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks good. As I've created WP templates before I've got going on making that one workable. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] assemsent stats

look a bit off to me......Traditional unionist (talk) 23:49, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes this is a temporary thing until the assessment stat bot updates the table. It will get corrected automatically so don't worry about it for now. Timrollpickering (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
grand. well done on all the work!Traditional unionist (talk) 00:03, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kylie's OBE

Kylie is an Australian national. Australia is part of the British Commonwealth and therefore all commonwealth nations are eligible to receive the Queen's Honours - as she is their head of state. Please see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7163660.stm for confirmation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.127.44 (talk) 05:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I was under the impression that honours made on the recommendation of the British government (which is what an OBE is) are no longer given to Australian nationals, as per the request of the latter's government some years ago. Instead they're given Australian honours. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject Universities Newsletter: Issue IV (December 2007)

The December 2007 issue of the WikiProject Universities newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you for your continued support of WikiProject Universities! —Noetic Sage 23:25, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Station interchange

Regarding interchange at Forest Gate/Wanstead Park and Woodgrange Park/Manor Park. The former is suggested in the National Rail Timetable, the latter is not. As to whether it's "permitted" or not, the "authoritative" document on this topic (the National Routeing Guide) doesn't seem to include either in "permitted routes" - but then it's very poorly written and doesn't account for a lot of completely legitimate things. And it suggests you can travel to Southend to get from the GOBLIN to Stratford, which I might have to try. --Mr Thant (talk) 00:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I should also mention that the Online Journey Planner will happily suggest the Forest Gate/Wanstead Park change. The OJP is generally treated by staff as authoritative due to the Routeing Guide being nonsense, though officially it has no authority (officially they're meant to be exactly the same, which is also nonsense) --Mr Thant (talk) 00:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
IIRC some of the late evening C2C services divert from the normal route into Fenchurch Street after Barking to run via the GOBLIN as far as the connection near Forest Gate/Wanstead Park and then over the "one" route into Liverpool Street - is that what it could be referring to?
With the recent launch of London Overground a lot of maps and announcements have been updated but nothing I've seen has even hinted that Forest Gate/Wanstead Park is now an official interchange. What other "completely legitimate things" aren't accounted for?
Unfortunately ticket checks at both stations are rare (and when they are at FG it's at peak hours - hardly the time to be asking about legitimate interchanges, especially as I use a travelcard rendering the point academic) and I don't think the barriers at either Stratford or Barking are set to read whether the ticket has also gone through the Jubilee line barriers at Stratford even if interchanging at West Ham is the only legitimate (daytime) route between the two stations. Timrollpickering (talk) 01:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I got the Southend example wrong - it's a Walthamstow (and various nearby stations) to Romford (and various nearby stations) that I think is valid via Southend. The intended route appears to be Walthamstow QR-Barking-Stratford (on c2c)-Romford, but because of the way the maps are drawn it also allows you to go to Southend and back.
Forest Gate/Wanstead Park was listed before the LO changeover, it's nothing new. The anomalies and ambiguities in the Routeing Guide are too numerous to mention - Google will throw up lots. --Mr Thant (talk) 02:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year

Happy New Year!

[edit] Invitation

Hello there

I see you are interested in the Life On Mars Television Series, as I am.

At the moment I have A Life On Mars Wikiproject currently up for approval by the Wikiproject Approval Council. As you are interested in Life On Mars I was wondering if you would be interested in adding your name and joining. If you are interested you can find it on Wikipedia: WikiProject Council/Proposals its right at the very bottom you cant miss it as its titled ‘Wikipedia: Wikiproject Life on Mars (Television Series)’. And after your name is added to Wikiproject propsals please add it to the main page Wikipedia:Wikiproject Life On Mars

If you are interested by all means feel free to join

Regards

Police,Mad,Jack —Preceding comment was added at 23:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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