Template talk:Timeline history of international cricket

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[edit] Suggestions for change

Pakistan in India (1st Test),~& 1st Test in which England did not play"

It is not immediately obvious that it is about the 'first 1st Test'. Is it important enough a fact to deserve a mention here ?

"1970 - South African rebel tours"

This should be about South Africa's suspension from ICC (was that in 1970 or 71?). The series which are generally called the rebel tours happened in the eighties. Tintin 10:07, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

The first Ashes Test was in 1882/3, when Bligh toured Australia. George Vernon first toured India in 1889/90, and the first mention of a cricket match in India was in 1721. South Africa had to leave the ICC in 1961, when it ceased to be a member of the Commonwealth. Tintin's right about the rebel tours being in the 1980s, not the 1970s. Why aren't Zimbabwe's and Bangladesh's Test debut's mentioned? Need to mention that the 1975 World Cup was the first one. Bodyline must be worth a mention. First Twenty20 International? World Series Cricket ended in 1979. The Olympics isn't at all important, jguk 12:39, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Regarding the Ashes. We talk about Ivo Bligh "recovering" the Ashes in Australia in 82/83. Does that not mean that the 1st Ashes series preceeded that ie. Hornby/Murdoch in England in 82? What am I missing? -- —Moondyne 13:17, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

The first Ashes Test is generally considered to be the first Ashes Test. The 1882 Oval Test was not for the Ashes as there were no "Ashes" as such until the game was over, jguk 15:11, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree with what you say, but I think what the reader of the timeline really wants to know is which Test started the Ashes story. Stephen Turner 15:29, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

You could use the same argument for Tests. Players did not know they were playing in Tests until many years after - indeed some had probably died. But these matches were retrospectively called Tests. The obituary which created the term The Ashes relates directly to the 1882 Oval Test and it seems reasonable to call it the 1st Ashes Test. -- —Moondyne 02:05, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Do we need Walter Read's tour and Lord Sheffield's tour ? Don't seem too important (unless we bring in something about Sheffield shield for the latter) Tintin 14:11, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Other notable dates could be - first black to captain the West Indies; first professional captain for England (of the 20th century); ICC having a different president from the MCC (ICC independence); ICC leaving Lord's; first recorded 100, 200, 300, 400 in Test cricket; first Women's Test and World Cup; the last international game in South Africa before isolation was the New Zealand Women's tour in 1971/2; first planned international tour (planned England tour of France in 1789); start of the ICC Trophy and ICC Intercontinental Cup; start of official Test and ODI tables; first Super Series; first day-nighter (limited overs and first-class); 500th, 1000th, 1500th Test (similar for ODIs?); Cronje betting scandal; first overseas MCC tour; last overseas England tour where England were styled "MCC", jguk 15:24, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

It does seem rather weighted towards the 19th century to me. And it's getting rather long, so I feel that some of that should perhaps be cut. Stephen Turner 15:10, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm just going to Be Bold and cut out some of the 19th century lines that seem least interesting to me. Stephen Turner 15:59, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree it's too long - —Moondyne 16:02, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bug in linking

While adding some hyperlinks, I found a bug in the code that generates the template. If there is a hyperlink on a line, the whole line is linked instead of just the blue word. Worse still, this means that a second link on the same line is ignored. Can we do anything about that? Stephen Turner 15:12, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

I noticed that also. It only seems to accept the 1st link. Help is here but this issue is not mentioned. I've asked a question of User:Erik Zachte, the developer of EasyTimeline. -- —Moondyne 15:39, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

yes, it is a limitation in the software (having 1 link per datapoint) -- —Moondyne 00:07, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

—Moondyne