Talk:Timeline of web browsers

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[edit] Page launch

The table I posted was the result of myself trying to get a handle on when the various browsers were released. I could not find a single source that listed all these browsers. It seems that most authors lost interest in the subject when the "broswer wars" cooled off. The formatting of table is rudimentary. Feel free to import the code into your html editor and reformat (with CSS). --Mikebrand 21:20, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Camino

Anyone against adding a camino timeline? I can try and dig up the dates for the major releases if you like...or I can email mike pinkerton and have him edit this page. Erik.hensarling 07:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I was not familiar with Camino, but it has a good article in WP and a Google search for "camino browser review" returns over a 1 million results. The only reason I included the phrase "most popular browsers" in the first sentence is that is what the table consisted of when I first created it. As less popular browsers are added, that wording can be changed. So, I vote, yes, please do add Camino (and the necessary dates seem to already be conveniently listed in the Camino article). --Mikebrand 12:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good Mike...This will be my first major edit so please forgive me if there are some obvious mistakes. Any feedback would be awesome. Erik.hensarling 22:16, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


Here is an interesting talk given about Camino and the history behind it, if anyone is interested. It spurred my interest in this article. Open Source Developers at Google Speaker Series: Camino


I am adding the Camino timeline this evening. Erik.hensarling 06:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mosaic & Lynx

This article should include NCSA Mosaic, as it was the most popular graphical web browser in early days, and Lynx, the text browser that was most popular. 132.205.93.63 03:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome to ad them. --Mikebrand 04:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SeaMonkey

Is SeaMonkey popular enough to be included in this page? 132.205.93.63 03:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

No popularity threasholds have been set. --Mikebrand 04:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Order?

I think this page is a good idea. Just curious if there was any reasoning behind the order of the columns? It's not chronological, it's not alphabetical, it's also not in order of (current) popularity. I think only chronological makes the most sense. Thoughts? I always thought Netscape came before Opera - can anybody track down the exact dates of v1.0 for each? Can someone also add the other browsers out there (iCab, OmniWeb, etc)?

I also think the SVG timeline is a cool way to see this information (especially all the forking), I just wish the SVG was oriented vertically (with the dates increasing chronologically down the page/image). Jeff schiller 14:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe the order of the columns was haphazard with the browser last added to the table going on the right side. You're chronological ordering is an improvement. --Mikebrand 03:01, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the SVG timeline, I have made an attempt at making a timeline illustration as well: User:Fred Bradstadt/Browser timeline. When finished, it might or might not be included in this page. Your comments are welcome --Fred Bradstadt 06:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minimum inclusion criteria

I removed Wyzo whose article is a stub and which is in Alpha development stage. To this point no formal inclusion criteria have been set. I would like to suggest the following:

  • Browser is in production release stage
  • Wikipedia article is substantive and has several authors
  • The browser has a history of at least one year (or it is a platform-specific version of a browser with a history of at least one year).

Those are just some initial thoughts --Mikebrand 04:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Safari

Why exactly do we have two different versions of Safari? Both Mac and Windows version use the same rendering engine and keep the same version number. That makes the difference the same as Mac/Windows/Linux/etc. versions of Firefox or Opera, yet we don't have different columns for them. I suspect the reasoning was based on the two different IEs, but they use different rendering engines and a different versioning system, thus justifying two separate entries. --ADeveria 11:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Good point. Perhaps it would be better to place an ^ (or other symbol) on (Mac)Safari for Jan 2007 with ^ at the bottom of the table indicating that was the date Safari for Windows was launched based on the same rendering engine and with the same version number. Then the WinSafari column could be deleted. --Mikebrand 12:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I second (third?) that. --Fred Bradstadt 12:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Firefox changes name...

It starts as Firefox, progressing to Firebird, morphing to Phoenix, and resting with Firefox. Even though the name changed during development, why doesnt it stay ONE name? And why does it start with the final version name, Firefox, and go to the pre-alpha names, and returning to the final name? I ask for a uniform name. Thank you. - I am in a public computer, and dont feel comfortable logging in. I am "FoolFromHell" --59.92.75.27 10:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)FoolFromHell

I think it should stay as is as the first heading is so people can find it easily and if they don't know about its previous names. I don't see what is wrong with the name changing as it reflects the history, so unless you want to create unnecessary columns for older versions I don't see whats wrong with the name changing.Robotboy2008 (talk) 00:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Early Web Browsers

The same info on early web browsers is displayed at top and bottom of the article in nearly identical format. Only once is sufficient. I'm inclined to keep the bottom table and delete the top "Up to 1997" table. Any thoughts? --Mikebrand (talk) 03:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Netscape Navigator

The first version of Netscape Navigator I used in December 1994 was Version 0.96. Also when did it morph & change it's name to Netscape Communicator? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acb58 (talkcontribs) 12:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)