Talk:Timeline 191's Common Characters
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[edit] Battle of Antietam
Great page, but in the summary section, I had to make a change; there was no Battle of Antietam in the timeline. Antietam occurred in our timeline because McClellan was able to catch up with Lee after finding Order 191. McClellan was not able to catch up with Lee in Timeline 191 until Camp Hill.--Bjeversole 19:53, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Name
This page needs a different name. 132.205.46.166 22:13, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Shel Silverstein?
In Settling Accounts: Return Engagement, a character by the name of Sheldon Silverstein makes an appearance. I believe he's the doctor who treats Morrell after the assassination attempt, but I might be wrong. This would seem to be a pretty obvious reference to the poet, but he'd be far too young to be serving in the war, since he was born in 1932. What are your thoughts?
[edit] Patton's existance
I've read Patton's family on his article, and it seems he could not exit in this timeline. His mother's father was a famous politian from California, thus since the CSA won his parents would never meet. The one listed might be the same one one in our world but of course with a diferent mother and I guess, facial features. Anyway, can somone please confirm this to me. unknown user
- A lot depends upon where his mother's ancestors themselves are from. If when you trace back to 1860 in our timeline and find that a plurity of them are from Southern states (or pro-slavery but living in states that stayed in the Union), it's a close enough match. (Even with exact linage, DNA of everyone born after 1862 is subject to change and the enviormental changes will be greater still.) Jon 18:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge Common Characters and Characters in the Southern Victory series
Their basically redudant. Jon 17:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. Turtledove seems to take some pains to point out historical ironies and oddities, and seeing the differences between how people turned out historically and how they turned out in this alternate timeline is a big part of that. Like with FDR - it's commented in the narrative at a couple of points that "people felt that he had a great political career ruined by being a paraplegic" and how robust he is despite that. But in reality, FDR was a paraplegic (though he carefully hid that fact) - and still managed to win four consecutive elections and become one of the most popular presidents in history; and likewise, his involvement at the top wore on him terribly, a change we can see paralleled in Al Smith. Consequently, I think it's organizationally important to take special note of the people who are in common between Timeline-191 and the real world, since that is a major if subtle theme of the books. The Mink Ermine Fox 15:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
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- I've taken out the merge tag as stale. There was no enthusiasm for the merge anywhere. --Stephan Schulz 23:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Real World Descriptions
Some of the entries describe the relevance of their real-world counterparts, but many (probably most) don't. I'm going to work on adding those, but a lot of the people I don't know anything about. If anybody wants to help with this, that would be most appreciated. The Mink Ermine Fox 15:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- I realized that everybody on the list has a dedicated wikipedia article, so instead I just went in and added links to all of the names. The Mink Ermine Fox 22:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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- It looks like an aon editor added a section about someone without a dedicated wikipedia article, and so I've deleted that paragraph. A real dedicated article (at least a stub) such be created about the real person before adding him here. Jon 18:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hitler
Why is this unamed orderly supposed to be Hitler, just because he hates jews and has an Iron Cross 1st class? I don't think so. [unknown anon editor]
- Read the revelant passages from the novel; there's a lot more details there coresponding with Adolph's physical and mental charatheristics than can be listed here. Jon 13:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Material including the "In at the Death" timeframe
Some sections, more noticably George Patton & Forest's appear to either have material from the as yet unpublished "In at the Death" or else be speculation. If the fomer, this is premature until the book gets published. If the later, even more reason it shouldn't be here. Jon 21:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and reverted the article to right before the last anon editor added that content. Jon 21:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Lindbergh
Any thoughs why Charles Lindbergh doesn't appear at all in the books? Maybe he doesn't even exists in the ATL?--150.244.23.139 23:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)