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Contents 1 Personal catcher 2 Lost season? 3 Scapegoat? 4 Pitching Style 5 How can one "strike out four batters in one inning"

[edit] Personal catcher

Need to update "personal catcher" discussion of Doug Mirabelli now that Doug has been traded—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.78.77.2 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 20 December 2005.

For now, just updated the tense, "Mirabelli *was* Wakefield's personal catcher"... when the 06 season starts we'll see the new situation. Not sure if Flaherty will be "Wake's catcher" the way Mirabelli was or not.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.59.86.5 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 20 January 2006.

[edit] Lost season?

Does anyone know why Wakefield didn't play in the 1994 season? Darwin's Bulldog 09:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

sent back down to the minors—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.248.190.62 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 2 May 2007.

[edit] Scapegoat?

Quote: Most (including himself) thought Wakefield would be labeled the scapegoat following the 2003 ALCS

Can anyone provide a reference to a suggestion that 'most' thought Wakefield would be labeled a scapegoat? Overwhelmingly, Grady Little (manager) was considered the scapegoat as soon as the game ended.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 162.136.192.1 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 17 November 2006.

[edit] Pitching Style

It's not really that important, but where the article talks about the environmental factors on the knuckleball, it says "knuckles", i always heard and used the term "tumbles". Like I said, not that important, but does anyone know what the proper term is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.143.47 (talk) 11:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone apparently thought "knuckles" describes the movement of the ball but that is a mistake for two reasons: 1) the verb knuckles has a very different meaning than the usual descriptive "tumble", "flutter", "dart" etc. 2) the origin of the term knuckleball is due to the original grip for the pitch which involves using the knuckles -- nowadays everyone (even oldtimers like Niekro) would use their fingernails. So I replaced "knuckles" with "flutters". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.120.178.13 (talk) 04:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How can one "strike out four batters in one inning"

Can somebody explain the bit about:

He is one of just a few pitchers in history to strike out four batters in one inning. Because the fluttering knuckleball produces many passed balls, several knuckleballers share this honor with Wakefield.

How does one "strike out four batters in one inning" without ending the inning after the third strikeout? What is a "passed ball" and how does the knuckleball style make this possible? I think more elaboration is needed, or at least a link to another page that explains this phenomenon. -- Adam Katz 18:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Explanation found on passed ball. I made that a link in the article. The third strike gets called, thus a strikeout, but the catcher failed to catch the pitch (the "passed ball") and the batter steals first, thus no out. -- Adam Katz 18:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)