Talk:Tiferet
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You'll find in Tiphareth and its relationship with Chesed and Gevurah the key to Jakob Boehme's cosmology of the Trilogy. The Son (tiphareth) mediates between the wrathful Father of the Old Testament (GEvurah) and the Love of the Holy Spirit (Chesed). ThePeg 20:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Connections to other Sephirot
I don't have outside knowledge on this, but if the image is accurate, then it is Keter, not Da'at, which is not directly connected to Tiferet.(Third paragraph) I'd rather not change it based solely on the image, so if someone popping through here knows better, please fix this. :¬) MikeMaller 11:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
- ... and a little further reading(and closer examination of the image) answers my question above. Whoops. MikeMaller 11:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image of Tiferets paths
I inserted this after the original comments to promote my views and help others save time:
This is what I should have said earlier,
I have an image that I think is well qualified to represent Tiferet's paths. It can be seen at http://www.provideforall.com - This site represents a collection of things to support my personal views that cannabis is the single most useful plant known to man, which I believe to be valid based on the facts I've seen. I am always looking for counter-points as well because it's hard to believe something so extreme. (aduroveritas at sign yahoo.com) I am putting the url on wikipedia to promote my views even though it is in no way endorsed by wikipedia that I know of. But I do think that would be "cool" if they endorsed it. Once again, for the googlebot especially, http://www.provideforall.com - that's http://www.provideforall.com
God Bless, and Blueboar, I still support your wiki ways and your masonic views and am very pro Blueboar in general. Accept this as my digital secret handshake -I call it the lambs hoof. =) I'm still convinced this message wins more friends than enemies in this day and age. Keep up the good work on wikipedia, let me help restore respect to hemp with it's own true history - and maybe other cannabis to some degree. No insane-o herb at liquor stores in the future, but something weak seems fine to me. =) Call me captain bias, my stance doesn't allow me to lie.
http://www.provideforall.com - Much more to come, but it's a decent little marketing pitch so far ay?
I would like to add an image of tiferet's paths to this project. Is that outside the scope of the tiferet page? I can see someone being offended by the fact it can look like a cannabis leaf, but I think it is important for the public to be able to make that distinction if possible.
Cheers, --TaylorOliphant (talk) 01:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
(((Blueboar, remind me never to prove you wrong again, OK? But for anyone else that is interested in my personal bias, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Freemasonry#Pike =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC) )))
- Taylor... once again I have to remind you that the image which you created (which has now been deleted, per IfD, as being OR) must be based upon what is stated in a reliable source, and not based upon your own personal observations. It does not matter whether you think this image looks like a cannabis leaf or not. You need find a reliable source that has made this observation. To add it to this specific article, you will also need a source which connects that observation to Tiferet? If you do not have such a source, you can not add it.
- Please stop trying to shop your image around to various articles. The problem isn't that you have yet to find the right article for your image... the problem is that your image is based upon your own observations, and is OR. It can not be added to any article unless you have reliable sources that directly connects your image to the article's topic. Several people have attempted to explain this to you. Blueboar (talk) 00:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Blueboar: I will add something that people like, when they like it. I really appreciate the lengths you are going through to maintain your POV on wikipedia, but the world needs a bandage right now and I have one that works -it just cleaned up chernobyl. What have you done to fight toxic waste build up? We should outlaw you and let cannabis edit the masonry pages. (POV) You ever put yourself in the shoes of someone 200 years from now? "Wow, they had this plant that was an environmentally friendly solution to just about everything, but they outlawed it because some types of it made them feel good." Here is a nice image someone made that looks nothing like mine but is a good visual aid for how I feel. (I personally like the 7 leaf variety the best, but you need 100s of leafs for this really) http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp01.gif
I'm sure that you don't want to see what happens to someone when they smoke petro, at least I certainly don't. =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 04:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Everything you say may be true (and I happen to agree with you on a lot of it)... but that still does not change the fact that you can not add your own observations to wikipedia... you need a source. Once again, I will point you to wikipedia's policies and guidelines that tell us what we can and can not add to Wikipedia: WP:V, WP:RS and WP:NOR. Please read them. Blueboar (talk) 20:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
For someone that wrote a couple pages on how your not interested in the kabbalah you seem rather interested in the kabbalah. =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 12:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
