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Assessment comments The following comments were left by the assessors: (edit · refresh) Contents 1 Explanation of Rating 2 comic titles? 3 censorship issues 4 Voice Credits 5 Not Absurdist 6 The City a place for rejects? 7 AFC suggested article 8 Tick (Live Series) comparison to Seinfeld 9 Merging material from The Tick (comic book) 10 Characters appearing in all incarnations 11 Nature of The Tick 12 Adjusting the list of characters 13 David Burke 14 Time Paradox? 15 Fair use rationale for Image:TickSpoo.JPG 16 Fair use rationale for Image:Tickvhs.jpg 17 Requested move 18 Creating new Tick articles [edit] Explanation of Rating This is a decent article but it definitely needs some work. Better references Restructuring (the data is all over the place and needs some structuring, and planning) Partial rewrite (rewriting some of the sections might be needed to bring out the articles full potential). Please note I am leaving this rating. IF you have any feedback or responses, please put them on my talk page if they are related to me. I will not have this, or the article that was rated on my talk page. It is unlikely I will see any messages directed towards me unless they were put on my talk page.businessman332211 20:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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• 'Not In The Face!' also came from Blazing Saddles

This page, and really this category needs work. I've gone through and wikified all of the character names, but a few still need clarifying (because the names/terms already exist in other universes/entries), all of the entries for the characters need to be created, a list of creative personnel should probably be added, and eventually the page should probably be split into comic, cartoon, and show pages. In other words, someone needs to grab a copy of Circus Maximus and some tapes of the episodes and go nuts :)

I agree on the comic/cartoon/live action split. Also, what about a page for the character The Tick as opposed to the media he's in. I'll keep an eye on this and add to it when I have the chance. I'll also try to fish out my old books and comics. Glad to see work finally go into the best cartoon and comic character ever :P -Mee Ronn 19:21, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed all the redlinks from the article. First of all, this improves its appearence and adds to its readability. Secondly, since many of these characters appeared in only a handful of issues, if the articles begin being created, I'd recommend merging them into Minor characters in The Tick (comic) or something of the like. --InShaneee 20:19, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

This page should probably be split 4 ways - The Tick (comic), The Tick (cartoon), The Tick (tv), and The Tick (character). There should definitely be a page where you get ONLY information about the character.

[edit] comic titles?

We have the titles of the episodes from both the animated and live-action series. It is possible for whoever would know where to look to get a list of titles for the original comic books?

There is a 3 part The Tick's Big Xmas Trilogy #1, #2 and #3 from December 2002 in colour. The Tick Days of Drama No.0 (The Brewing Storm) and #1 (Welcome to Rosebud. Population 1) from July 2005. The Chroma-Tick Special Edition No.1 (January 1992, a colour reprint of the original first issue, the intro makes mention of a #2 to come out that I haven't seen, but my comic collection is downloaded so might just need more uploading). The Tick No.2 (September 1988)(HiGHRiSE HiJinX). The Tick No.3 August 1996 Special Tenth Anniversary Edition (NIGHT OF A MILLION-ZILLION NINJA) (not in colour). The Tick No.4 tenth anniversary reprint (A BIG FIGHT)(Either I fail to see or the guy failed to upload the page with the dates and proper full name of the issue). The Tick No.5 (August 1989)(EARLY MORNING OF A MILLION ZILLION NINJAS). The Tick No.6 (VILLAINS inc.). The Tick No.7 tenth anniversary reprint (The Moon Menace, or perhaps in full Case 3117 "From the files of Angus MacGuire" The Moon Menace). The Tick No.8 (a matter of cosmic import....and other stories.....). The Tick No.9 (ROAD TRIP)(March 1991) (On a side note inside is a picture, black and white as the comics, of Lucia at 25. Alexandria Egypt 1963 Lucia Millet Edlund October 27, 1937-December 6 1990). The Tick No.10 (SOME OBSTACLES AND A PARTIAL RESOLUTION)(October 1991). The Tick No.11 (TWO STRANGE WARM MEN and the CITY of their DREAMS). The Tick No.12 (One Man's Treasure... ...is Also Another Man's Treasure). Thats all I got, if someone less noob than me wnats to work this stuff in somehow, cool. I'm not exactly sure how, or about the legality of it, but if any pics ar needed they're pretty much all jpegs on here, so ask and we'll figure it out. Also, for most things I have written down exactly as appears in that comic, woth capitilization and using No. or # Highlandlord 12:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I have a complete list of every Tick comic ever released (as I own almost every Tick comic ever released). I played around with putting the list in, put I think it will make the article too unwieldy: the list I made came out to about 7 printed pages, and that's without the graphic novels or spinoffs. Do you think it would be useful to put the list on a different link? I can do it, but I need to figure out how, as I am very new to this. I would also like to put more information for each issue (artistic credits, characters, summary, trivia, etc.). Does this sound OK? I'd appreciate any ideas/help.Ballabosh 21:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I definitely think this is worth doing. There are similar lists, episode guides, etc. all over wikipedia. Creating the list is easy, just do a search for a title like "Tick: List of published material" or something like that. Wikipedia will say it can't find such an article, but would you like to make one? Paste in you list and hit make article. You can clean it up after you take a look at it. Then go into the original Tick article and make a link to it. Interwiki links are simple, just pu the name of the article in double brackets [[ ]]. Malnova 01:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. Please let me know how it looks and any suggestions. I put everything I have on hand, but will double check to add some stuff (dates, links, etc.) later. I will also add stuff as I compile it. Thanks for the help. Ballabosh 16:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I took a look and I think your links to the article and the article itself look pretty exhaustive and polished. No complaints. Malnova 22:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] censorship issues

Thus so far I have counted three instances where The Tick has suffered the network's axe. First was the removal of Bi-Polar Bear's appearance in the Episode 1; second was the cleaning-up of Die Fladermaus's failed pick-up line with Eclaire in Episode 33; and third was the complete dissappearance of Episode 23, "The Tick Love's Santa!". Sweetfreek 07:30, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

UPDATE--Episode 23, "The Tick Loves Santa" finally aired Sunday, October 10th, 2005 on ABC Family at 11:30AM EST. It seems to be unedited. Sweetfreek 06:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

repeated dec. 12 2005 on cartoon disney. Gzuckier 16:10, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Been doing some digging around... apparently this show was cut up a bit more than I originally thought. In addition to the aforementioned, it seems that Anti-Castro clip was cut from Episode 36. Also, I suspect that there may have been some mishandling of some sort in Episodes 4 and 29--in Episode 4, Mr. Mental breaks open a gumball machine and eats one which he declares was "cherry" flavored; and in Episode 29, the Aztec Labyrinth had a passageway filled with chopping mechanism and lava pools, upon seeing them the Tick utters "Eww!" (text remains in the Closed Captions)--but without my VHS copies (made from the original Fox broadcasts) handy, I don't have any way of verifying these two details. Sweetfreek 08:16, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

A lot of channels are reluctant to show Christmas episodes in syndication outside of the holiday season. Not sure why that is, but it's not really censorship. It's just tradition. I've noticed this with several shows I watched as a kid that I started re-watching as an adult; the Christmas episodes are much rarer to re-run. In fact, 'Pete and Pete' syndication was cancelled before they got to December, so they never showed "O Christmas Pete". 64.95.27.5 15:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)sean

[edit] Voice Credits

After taking a look at the extensive lists of villains and superheroes in the animated series, I wondered if note should be made of who did the voice acting for each character. Of course, it'd take some time to finish the list, but I could add a few already. I've several Tick episodes and I can scan the credits for the voice talents. All I'm waiting for is somebody's approval or agreement that I should go ahead and do this. --InvaderJim42 00:00, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Go ahead and print 'em! Most of the villains were voice by Jim Cummings (Mr. "Mel" Mental, Thrakkorzog, etc.), and Tony Jay (from that TV Series, "Beauty and the Beast") voiced Chairface Chippendale. Jenniffer Darling (English Dub voice of Aeka/Ayeka from "Tenchi Muyo!") as Minda Mental. Some characters like Author and the Breadmaster had different voice actors in different seasons. And so on... Sweetfreek 06:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

This might just be my ears, but is that Bobcat voicing the Uncle Creamy guy im 36? Highlandlord 11:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Your ears are correct, that's Bobcat. Kuru ^talk 12:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Should there be a list of "celebrity" voices? Bobcat Goldthwait, Dan Castellanetta (Homer Simpson) and all 4 members of the Firesign Theatre have done voices for the animated series, and Peter Bergman of Firesign Theatre was in the live-action series in the unaired episode The Terror.Brian Westley 04:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not Absurdist

Let me say that The Tick is not "absurdist" at all. I am changing "absurdist parody" to "surrealist parody" simply for the fact that if you look at "absurdism" in the philosophical sense, you will find that they are entirely mutually exclusive of one another. Besides the link already goes to "surreal humor" so why not reflect that in the hypertext? -MasonicLamb 18:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The City a place for rejects?

I don't know about that. American maid seemed quiet capable and she was in The City and was asked by the government to stop that pineapple guy. Where does it actually say The City is for rejects? I always thought most of the heroes’ ineptitude was more the norm for all the super heroes in cartoon’s continuity not just the city.

Don't the Aztecs belong in the Cartoon Super Villain list, sure they aren't really super, but alot of his villains aren't. Also for the cartoon, if you listen carefully, Stalingrad doesn't say hes not a villain, he merely states that he is not Stalin but that hes based his studies after him, and given his attitude and attempt to vote for himself to be the leader, I would say he probably is a villain. Highlandlord 09:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFC suggested article

From AFC. --maru (talk) contribs 16:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Jim Rage was a character from the hit 90's cartoon "The Tick".

Jim Rage was a government special agent tasked with destroying The mustache, but after 15 years of failure his funding was cut. He didn't bother to tell his team, Project Shave, that they were no longer a legitimate government operation, and so Holly, Kitty, and Crystal continued to hunt the mustache with Jim.

Perhaps the Tick sums it up most concisely; "you're just a jerk who hates my mustache!"

Appearances: That mustache Feeling

Jim Rage was voiced by Brad Garrett

[edit] Tick (Live Series) comparison to Seinfeld

Would it be desirable to discuss the Live Action series in comparison with Seinfeld? Both half-hour programmes feature a central character supported by three colleagues, one bald, pudgy, and bespectacled; one a self-absorbed misfit more interested in his existence than holding down a regular job; and one a neurotic female mosly concerned with her sex life (or lack thereof) than anythng else.

In both shows, things might happen but mostly nothing acually does--that is except for our four friends hanging out at a diner and chatting.

What do you think? Does this have legs?

[edit] Merging material from The Tick (comic book)

There is currently a parallel article at ''The_Tick''_Comic_Book, focussing, as you might expect, on the comic. I've tagged both articles for a proposed merger, since they belong together (and the other article has a bad title). --Gavia immer 17:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I wrote ''The_Tick''_Comic_Book. The reason I put it on a different page, is because I thought it would make this main page too long and unwieldy (I think it's too unwieldy already) . Plus, I plan on doing a similar description for each series of Tick comics, would would make it even longer. If this doesn't seem a problem, then sure, combine them. I'm also curious as to why it's a bad title. Ballabosh 16:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

The title is kind of a problem, because you used multiple single quotes instead of double quotes (and the quotes don't need to be there anyway). Pages titled that way tend to be hard to search for (people working on this article may not have known it existed, which is one reason why I put up the merger notice) and hard to link to, because '' gets interpreted as wiki markup, so you have to do extra work to make a link to it. The most useful title for the material, per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (comics), would be The Tick (comics), which is much easier to search for and link to. You (or I) can easily move it there if there's not some reason for another title. --Gavia immer 17:13, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I have moved it already as I came across similar titles in other comic book articles, and that made sense. Thanks for the advice. I also noticed that most of the other comic book articles, while they might mention issues, do not go into as much detail as I did: usually just a quick summary of the entire series with a publication range. Do you think in this case, I went overboard? Maybe it should be pared down and then, it would be easier to merge it with the main article.Ballabosh 17:26, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree that combining all that information into this article does seem like it would make the page a bit unwieldy. I suppose there's always the option of just adding {{details|The Tick (comic book)}} under the comic book section instead of trying to combine the two articles. --Aldryd 05:09, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Since you asked, yes, I believe the (comic book) artice is overboard. Most other comic articles give a high level synopsis of major storylines, without going into detail on an issue-by-issue basis (can you imagine how long the Superman or Batman articles would be?). If you pare The Tick down comparably, it would be appropriate to merge the two. While we're at it, this article is also a bit long, primarily in the list of heroes and villains. There are a lot of duplicates, and I'd wager most of them are not that notable. HalJor 00:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Perfect, thanks for the input. I had actually come to the same conclusion. I will pare that page as I get a chance. I still don't think that a merge will work. That is only one series of Tick comics, so if I summarize every series, as I would like to do, it will still be quite long. So I think, still have a separate page for comic summaries, but now have a single page for every story line instead of a separate page for each series. And, I absoulutely agree, the characters listed in the Tick article are too much. As far as the comics are concerned, you can get rid of The Ant, The Cape, Captain Academia, Crested Grebe, Hand Grenade Man, the Miti Men, the Sultan, Ulysses Bang, The Visible Man, Gomorra, King Crime and the Seven Hearts. These are all minor characters. Also Red Eye and Chainsaw Vigilante should be listed in some other category, not villians.

In the animated series, get rid of Bi-Polar Bear, Captain Lemming, Fighting Genius Time Commandos, Uncle Creamy, Members of The Tick's superhero class: Baby Boomerangutang, The Flying Squirrel, Gesundheit, Mr Exciting, Sarcastro, The Angry Red Herring, The Mad Nanny (Charles' controlled henchwoman), Amelia - Charles' sister and lab assistant, The Crease, Eyebrows Mulligan, Harriet Curse, The Heys, The Hotel Manager,Indigestible Man, Jack Tuber, The Man Of A Thousand Faces, Jim Rage, Agent of S.H.A.V.E., Joseph Stalingrad, Lava Man, Minda (sidekick of Mr. Mental), The Fortissimo Brothers (Octo Paganini's henchmen), The Sub Human, Swiss Industrial Spies,Terry (The Terror's grandson), The Evil Arthur Clone, Milo (sidekick of Venus), Wally, Whirling Scottish Devil.

These are all minor characters.Ballabosh 04:51, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Instead of merging the two, I just adjusted the layout a bit and added a link to The Tick (comic book)). As HalJor mentioned, if The Tick (comic book) can be shrunk a bit to just some summaries, it might be possible to merge it with this page. Aldryd ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it's possible that people could seek out information on just The Tick comics (which I've done and not found the info on this page). I think it might be a good idea to split this article into The Tick (comics) (which would give info on all the different The Tick comic series) and The Tick (TV) (on the two Tick tv shows). However someone would have to write the other articles

[edit] Characters appearing in all incarnations

"Apart from The Tick and Arthur, The Terror is the only character to appear in the comic book, the animated series, and the live action show."

I've added Dot, since she appeared in all three. Friendly Fire also appears in all three, although basically a minor part in the animated sereis and not much more than that in the comic books. Also, in the comic and animated, FF is a hero, while in the live-action, he's a sidekick, so we can even assume, they're different characters. I had thought the Red Scare was in all three, but I think I was wrong about the animated series, unless someone else can confirm it.Ballabosh 20:53, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

You know, I was almost sure the Red Scare was in all three too, but I can't find him in the animated series either. Oh well. --Aldryd 00:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nature of The Tick

It seems pretty clear from the animated series that The Tick isn't exactly a human in a body suit. The blue covering almost seems to be his skin, and his antennae seem to be real (e.g. his loss of balance when they're removed in at least one episode). I'm not sure how this was handled in the comics, but I rewrote the introductory line that calls him a man in a blue suit to make his nature slightly more ambiguous. I noticed the bit about the live-action series listing him as having black hair and blue eyes, but considering what I mentioned above about the antennae and such, unless someone has solid evidence to the contrary, I don't think he can be considered "a man in a suit" for the purposes of his overall character... -- Fru1tbat 15:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I think you've got it exactly right. In the comic book, it is handled the same way, as several people try to remove the Tick's costume, but are unable. Also, at one point Arthur complains about having to clean the blue scum out of the bathtub, implying that the Tick showers with his suit on. So yes, the TIck is more than a man in a suit. As Dr. Lovecraft says in Luny Bin #3, "The Tick is the mask!!! The mask is the Tick!!!"Ballabosh 00:02, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Where did it say he has black hair and blue eyes in The Tick live action? If you're referring to his Superhero license, I don't think anything on that can be considered canon since it was all faked and under the name "I.P. Daley". Also, in that same episode it shows him at the Police station - his mugshot clearly shows him being well over 7 feet tall, not 6'6" like is stated in this article. Although of course Patrick Warburton is only 6'4" himself, so adding platform boots that brings him to about 6'6" and he's not that much taller than anyone he stands next to. But his height is shown to be much taller according to (the only?) frame of measurement present. -----Moe Hunter, 11.53pm 30 April 2007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WhiteLynxFlame (talk • contribs) 11:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC).

There is a lot of ambiguity about whether The Tick is human or not. Obviously, his super powers would suggest that he is not, and his suit is often treated as being a part of him. However, at the end of the ninja storyline, he discovers that he has pockets (on his suit). So it is certainly hinted at that he is wearing a suit, and his physical connection to the suit (the antennae) could simply be written off as psychological. None of this accounts for his powers, though. If it is a suit, perhaps the suit has the powers and has taken over his personality. Or perhaps it is just an extreme case of mind over matter.

I haven't seen the live-action series, so perhaps some of this is explained there. Is that where the comment about his hair and eye color comes from? -- John Denton 2:05 PM December 1, 2006

[edit] Adjusting the list of characters

As mentioned in another comment, the long list of every character who ever appeared makes the article a little long with little to no information gained. I've moved that list to the new article List of minor characters in The Tick. It still needs a lot of work though. --Aldryd 02:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Burke

David Burke looks really good for such an old guy! And he does an excellent American accent. You'd almost swear he was American. You'd also almost swear he was several decades younger. Man, I need the name of that guy's surgeon! 70.53.108.163 15:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Time Paradox?

The beginning of the article says the TV series was created in 1996 and the comic book series in 1993, but the info box says the first appearance is in 1986. Which is it? --lancelottjones 15:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

He first appeared in a newsletter. DonQuixote 17:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

The Tick first appeared in the New England Comics News letter, an inhouse publication of NEC. He first was in issue 14 in 1986 and also appeared in issues 15 andd 16. The actual first issue of the comic book series was in 1988. For some reason, the dates keep getting changed in the article to 1994/1996. I don't know why. Also Chairface is constantly being changed to Chairhead. Ballabosh (talk) 17:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:TickSpoo.JPG

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tickvhs.jpg

Image:Tickvhs.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] Requested move

[edit] Creating new Tick articles

I was amazed to see that all the Tick information was crammed into one article. There was simply no reason not to give the 1994 animated series its own article, so I did. It was a very popular show that lasted three seasons, aired on two networks, spawn lots of toys and merchandise, and recently had DVD releases, so Wikipedia desperately needed an article devoted to it. Just so you know, I'll be removing much of the '94 series info from this article. I'm also considering creating an article for the short-lived 2001 live-action series and will probably create a Tick template for all Tick pages. Cale (talk) 08:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)