Talk:Thumb piano

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[edit] Incorrect name

This title is a misnomer (comparing an African instrument to an unrelated European one), and should be moved or merged. Definitely a highly disfavored term. Badagnani (talk) 21:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

The name "thumb piano" is still common in the English speaking world but is being displaced by mbira and kalimba. "Marimba" requires disambiguation from the marimba xylophone. I suggest fusing the pages under "Thumb Piano, Mbira, Kalimba" and adding a disambiguation and link from "marimba"Redheylin (talk) 01:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

You want commas in the new article title? "Mbira" might work as a common name. Badagnani (talk) 01:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Badagnani, you are so quick! I do not care about the commas. Your article has better African details, the Kalimba page has some details of interest to "westerners" and will help them understand what is meant, especially if they are given a few links like Shona and Mapfumo.

I made the disambig from the Marimba article. Do you know in which ethnolinguistic groups the term marimba refers to the lamellophone (as opposed to the xylophone)? Badagnani (talk) 01:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Regarding separate articles, I do support articles for the individual instruments, as they have their own techniques and repertoires--the way we have different articles for the classical guitar, acoustic guitar, twelve-string guitar, mandolin, banjo, etc. Right now we have this for Agidigbo and Tom (musical instrument), for example. However, I agree that there should be one main article. Lamellophone is okay, but it contains Jew's harps and a couple of other non-mbira-type instruments. Badagnani (talk) 01:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I think in the first place just add a description of the different types and their locations, perhaps with typical artists and records. If it gets too big then, more pages. I do not know offhand the ethnolinguistic usages of marimba, but mbira is certainly a term that should be in the title - it is getting well known in the white world and may eventually erase "thumb piano", but the latter should be kept right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redheylin (talk • contribs) 01:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

However, I see that the lovers of the "marimbula" are also unwilling to merge pages with mbira, so perhaps some linking and information sharing is needed instead, and a category lamellophones, if it does not exist. Redheylin (talk) 01:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

It DOES exist, and there are already pages for marimba, marimbula, mbira, kalimba. There is very little use for this page that I can see. It should be merged into lamellophones if anything. Redheylin (talk) 02:03, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The jews harps do not matter!Redheylin (talk) 02:05, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

What does exist? Why do Jew's harps not matter? Your last two postings don't make sense. Badagnani (talk) 02:15, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry; I missed your post. The category page "lamellophones" exists and it should be top of this tree. It does not matter that Jews Harps are also included since this is in fact a kind of one-note mbira that uses the mouth as a resonator. "Thumb Piano" is a catch-all English term for African lamellophones, and does not really require its own page IMO. I am sorry I spoke before I looked at the range of pages. Redheylin (talk) 01:11, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't agree; the Jew's harp is not closely related to the mbira-type instruments in that they are not mounted on a board or box and are blown through. Badagnani (talk) 01:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)