Talk:Thule (disambiguation)
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History and current events never were my best subjects, but this surprised me:
- On the 22nd of January 1968 a B-52 crashed 7 miles south of the Air Force Base. Nuclear bombs were lost and debris scattered over the area in the accident.
Is that true? Hmm, I felt compelled to do research, and found this. Huh.
Can someone find a citation for Thule being identified with Greenland? I do not believe this suggested identification was made until the nineteenth or twentieth centuries. And, besides, the ancient Greeks were unaware of Greenland (and probably Iceland, too).
While it's obvious which meaning it refers to, could someone make the link from foreign relations of Greenland make sense? (to summarize: why is Thule a sensitive area in Greenland's foreign relations?) Tuf-Kat
How come this is under category "Nazism"? Just wondering.
Ultima Thule was the title of one of Sir Richard Burton's books.
According to a theory first proposed by Lennart Meri, it is possible that Saaremaa was the legendary Ultima Thule, first mentioned by ancient Greek geographer Pytheas, whereas the name "Thule" could have been connected to the Estonian language word tule ("(of) fire") and the old folk poetry of Estonia, which depicts the birth of the crater lake in Kaali, Saaremaa. Cheers, --3 Löwi 20:06, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Thule would belong under category "Nazism" for the Thule Society, a forerunner of the Deutsche Arbeiter Partei, later NSDAP. The Society believed that the Aryan race originated from Thule, and that it was still possible to contact the inhabitants there, endowed with great occult powers, in order to conclude a pact with them. Under reference Richard E Byrd I made a reference to the Thule found by Pytheas, since it is an outside possibility that if the inhabited Arctic Thule exists, then it may have its counterpart in the Antarctic, and he may have found it. Geoffreybrooks 19 June 2006.
[edit] Thule, the Period of Cosmography
The text on the page is described as a poem, and appears in The Oxford Book of Short Poems (see reference on main page). It's also familiar to me as a madrigal by Thomas Weelkes; madrigal texts frequently appear in collection of poetry, and the inclusion of the text from the Andalucian Merchant (the second part of Weelkes' two-part madrigal) makes me suspect that the madrigal, rather than a piece of poetry without accompanying music, is the source for the text that appears in the book. If anyone has a copy of The Oxford Book of Short Poems, could they please check attribution? The date I found for the madrigal and the dates posited for the poem coincide, and it would be interesting to see which came first! Squeezeweasel 12:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- The attribution in The Oxford Book of Short Poems is exactly as in the article, in a section titled "Anonymous printed 1599-1610" with no further information. It looks like your info may be better than that in the Oxford book. JMiall 00:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I've been to the library, and the Grove Dictionary of Music attributes the words as well as the music to Weelkes, and narrows the date down to 1600. I've made the relevant changes. Please note I've changed the section heading as well - 1600 is a bit late for the heading 'Middle Ages'. (I'm updating the Weelkes page as well.) Squeezeweasel 15:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thule as possibly related to the word thyle
If 'thule' was considered a name for Iceland, I wonder if it were called "thule" do to its form of goverment being an assembly, or 'thing' run by speakers, or "thulr" aka thyle. I've always wondered about a connection between these two words. Nagelfar 12:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Must be a concidence. The Icelandic "althing" was formed in 930 C.E.---over a thousand years after Pytheas's use of the word "Thule." The Norse and Icelandic word "thyle" (wiseman or sage or speaker, whence "thing" and "althing"), is not recorded earlier than about this same time.
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