Talk:Thrivent Financial for Lutherans

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[edit] Cleanup

Hello, I just placed two tags at the top of the article; is there any way this can be re-edited or rewritten to sound less like a brochure or a public relations piece? Thanks a lot.Msr69er 01:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I'm with Thrivent Financial for Lutherans. We will be updating the content, but I'm interested to know which parts of the entry you feel relate as advertising. I appreciate your comments. Also, I do have a question on how to edit the logo on the right side of the screen (next to our opening sentences). We have an updated logo that I'd like to add, but can't figure out how to remove the old logo. Any help is appreciated as well. Thank you! TFFL33 17:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Please upload the new logo image, and replace the old logo. Contact me (click my talk link), and I will arrange to have the old logo deleted. I uploaded an image of the Thrivent sign from Hwy 41 in Appleton. I didn't know where to start to explain how about how this is a marketing piece, so I did the major cutting myself. References need to be either a website or a periodical (marketing literature would suffice for this purpose). Royalbroil ^{Talk  Contrib} 04:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm wondering if it's ever possible to speak to someone about the parameters around what copy is acceptable or not. I've read all the documentation on the site, but still have questions - mainly about why some feel that our copy was too heavy on what seemed like advertising. Obviously, that's not our perception, but we also don't want to post anything that is not within your framework of rules. we want to do right by the Wikipedia users and it would help tremendously if we could speak to someone over the phone to talk about what is acceptable and what is not, rather than post something we think is fair only to have it altered or removed by someone else. Is that possible? Thank you for your help; I appreciate the clarification! TFFL33 20:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I no longer feel that the article is heavy on advertising. Is your question "Why did people feel that they had to edit the article to clean it up?"

I bolded some quotes that were especially bad: Thrivent Financial exists to improve the quality of life of its members, their families, and their communities by providing products, services and resources that focus on financial security, wellness and caring for others, naming a paragraph '"Caring for Others"', "Thrivent Financial for Lutherans builds on its heritage by offering high quality financial products and services and by creating, managing and funding programs and resources that enable its members to demonstrate their care for others" (is extremely POV), no addresses or phone numbers are listed for any company.

Feel free to add referenced statistics that talks about the company's public financials (if you have a book/magazine/website/etc. reference that is available to the public - not internal), number of employees, position in the market, etc.

You can contact me by going to my user page and sending me an email. I commute into the Appleton area, so I could arrange calling you (or vice versa) if you'd like. The main rule is that this is an encyclopedia, so it needs to read like an encyclopedia: Facts and figures. Royalbroil ^{Talk  Contrib} 22:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I removed this image because I felt that my image of the Appleton location was more flattering. Feel free to switch the two if you disagree.

I have also removed the logo, and replace it with a photograph of the entrance sign which shows the logo. I did this because I think the sign does a fair good job of representing the image, while logos are frowned upon in Wikipedia (if possible don't use one - see WP:LOGO for further explanation). Royalbroil ^{Talk  Contrib} 23:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)