Talk:Thoroughbred horse race

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What means "main", as in "main form of horseracing"? Some quantification would be helpful. Trontonian Bold text


Why is there this entry as well as "horse racing in the UK"?

I second this. I know Wikipedia is often accused of being American-centric, but I found this entry to be sadly lacking in any information about US horse racing, with the exception of a handful of American horses included in the lists at the bottom. -jett


Hi, I suggested in the article that there are 2 codes of racing: flat and NH. Someone changed NH to steeplechasing. I don't think that that is right. The 2 codes are as stated. Within national hunt racing there is (1) steeple chasing, (2) hurdle and (3) bumpers. I have therefore changed it back to flat and NH. I hope that that has not annoyed anyone. Dr Spam (MD) 08:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Why is it back to "Steeplechasing", the correct divisions for racing in the UK are "Flat" and "National Hunt" (and possibly Point-to-Point) as stated above. Malc82 18:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

This article duplicates a great deal of material covered in horse racing and, to a lesser extent, Thoroughbred. I recommend it be merged. Montanabw(talk) 17:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I am against the merge. Instead those sections in the other article which are about thoroughbred horse racing should be merged into this article. --Philip Baird Shearer 14:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, the problem is that this particular article is of terrible quality. While I do admit there are many types of horse racing and Thoroughbreds are used for far more than just racing, so it makes no sense to merge either of them into this one, the problem is that this article needs serious work. And given that I don't even have the time to finish my current rehab article project, I personally sure don't have the time to fix this one.
Arguably, what could happen is that the TB horse racing material in the main TB breed article could go here, as could the TB-specific material in the horse racing article as well, making that article more of a portal or an overview of all types of horse racing.
But the bottom line is that any solution is a LOT of work. Montanabw(talk) 17:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


Which is why I put the "This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject." template on the top :-( --Philip Baird Shearer 19:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
The bigger problem is that it is simply redundant. See the other two articles...the problem isn't an expert, it's also just bad writing. But like I say, I have other fish to fry at the moment. Montanabw(talk) 03:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Merge Tags

This article is not redundant, it is in fact fundamental. Thoroughbred is a breed, you can't merge Chevrolet into automobile. the Horse racing article should be a disambig page listing the various types of racing. This is about a Thoroughbred race but its title needs changing to segregate it (flat racing]]) from Steeplechase racing. The article needs massive expanion and relative material from the Horse racing article shifted here. It is a huge job but must be done sooner or later. Hoever, I (and probably others) have left it alone until members of the Project have done more work on other subjects which will make this article's expansion a lot, lot, lot, lot easier. And we are getting there! Handicapper 15:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

One of the problems is that the Thoroughbred article has a lot of horse racing info in it, and the horse racing article is mostly about Thoroughbred flat racing. So there IS a lot of info out there and some rearranging is really, really needed. I am part of the project myself, but like everyone, time is limited and this article is a disaster! But I guess merging isn't the solution...sigh. Montanabw(talk) 18:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I am going to second the proposal to merge the articles. Thoroughbred horse racing should be a section of Horse racing. --AeronM (talk) 03:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I would agree with the proposal to turn Horse racing into some sort of disambig page with links to various other racing articles, such as racing in various breeds (TB, Quarter Horse, Arab, etc), racing in various countries (UK, US, Australia, etc), and various types of racing (steeplechase, flat, harness, etc). There could be short explanations of each thing, with a see:Main Article blurb at the top of each section. Something like the main Horse article? I realize that this will take lots of time that no one has at the moment...but it's my two cents on the subject :) Dana boomer (talk) 12:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree. That sounds much more organized. --AeronM (talk) 00:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)