Talk:Thirteen (film)

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Note that the title is lower case, and should stay thirteen, not Thirteen. RickK 05:56, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)

This seems a little ambiguous. Yes the poster is lower case, but just about everywhere else (including the Fox Searchlight site) has it upper case. --Lee Hunter 14:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Anyone else think this movie was horrible? I never saw the point. A girl gets high and becomes a whore. Wow, thats what some real people do. Best movie ever? I'm not sure... I don't get why the acting is so "great" either... Honestly the truth is quite sad, it isn't that difficult for an average 15 year old girl to act like a slut...

The point is quite clear: The effects of disfuntional family, drugs, peer-pressure, and deception on an adolescent child that is growing up way too fast. The film neither blantantly glorifies or shuns these themes, but rather puts them forth in a satirical sort of way that is chalk full of visual symbolism and relentless scenes. The acting is considered great because of the realism. It almost seems spontaneous and un-deliberate, much like the life of a young teenager. Who would of thunk-it. SousaFan88 08:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Editing AntonioMartin's edits 2 Controversy 3 References 4 Intentionally misleading? 5 Title is UPPERCASE!!! 6 I love this fuckin movie 7 Airduster 8 Plot 9 Poems in the film? 10 "Behind the scenes"

[edit] Editing AntonioMartin's edits

Changes: revert title to proper lowercase; remove lesbianism referece (which was very short and very minor plot point in movie); fix wording and bias (e.g.: "It should be noted that the parents had problems of their own." (para)); remove inaccuracte reference to Nikki Reed's character's "mother" (cousin raised her, not mother): cousin was unemployed actress and employed bartender, not stripper. 69.140.241.69 06:59, 3 May 2005

[edit] Controversy

I added as much as I could to the "controversy" section, but it can defiently be expanded. Anyone who can help with it, please do. --Courtkittie 07:08pm, 11 July 2005

This is the worst movie ever made. --i8pgump 06:20am, 05 February 2007

[edit] References

There is a discussion taking place at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Films#References_in_Popular_Culture_Project about such sections, to which you are all invited to contribute. The JPS 12:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Intentionally misleading?

How exactly? Did it have trailers making it out to look like a comedy or something?--Josh 19:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Gymnastics- exactly where in the film is there any reference to Tracy taking gymnastics? Anorexic- Evie does not introduce Tracy to anorexia. Apart from her occasional refusal of food Tracy does not display any sign of suffereing from this disorder.

[edit] Title is UPPERCASE!!!

Yes you heard me right. The title of this film is uppercase. According to the studio's official site http://workingtitlefilms.com/film.php?filmID=29 it is written in uppercase. There are plenty of films that are advertised in uppercase or lowercase. These are just for marketing purposes. I suggest we change this to Thirteen (film). Parable1991 02:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Having it in lowercase seems to be a too literal interpretation of the poster.

Peter ^Isotalo 12:57, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Agree. Changed. ConDem^Talk 19:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I love this fuckin movie

I love this movie..........It is my favorite movie.i watch it last .......me and some friends did some of that stuff in the movie......that shit was fun............

[edit] Airduster

In the beginning, they're inhaling compressed air, but in real life if you've ever heard someone talk after inhaling compressed air (at least some brands), it deepens their voice. I don't know if this is notable. And if you don't know what it can do, I suggest reading this. Dangerous stuff. But as for whether or not to note this difference, I can't decide. Zchris87v 04:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

I am not sure that I agree with a few of the elements of the plot summary, but before wading in and modifying other peoples' work I thought I would run some elements to change past the Community:

• I got the impression that the cutting began prior to meeting Evie as a response to things going on her life already.
• I would not characterize her as "a tad naive", particularly with the home situation that she had, a mother in The Program, with a boyfriend in the half-way house, divorce, etc. This implies a bit of life-experience, and bit of understanding of how the world works. She is just a kid. Prior to meeting Evie, her priorities were playing with Barbie and getting good marks.
• I never saw this "deep jealousy" she feels toward Evie. When Evie leaves her alone, she feels lonely and not accepted. She feels insecure, alone, and not accepted. This is the motivations I saw in the film.
• As for her "bad reputation", I am not sure that that was portrayed at all in the film (the value judgements of peers were not really emphasized.) Her old friends were disappointed, but not really judging, and her new friends thought she was great.

It is just the way that the plot summary is phrased that shades it in such a way that I do not find it captures the film. (Besides the elements in the plot summary that I just found lacking factually from the film.) However, I am afraid that if I try to write a whole new plot summary, it will turn out that others find it equally shaded, but I would like to correct out the elements that I just did not see. I am not sure how long to leave for comment on this point though (in WikiCulture). Anyway, I will give it a week or so and see if I can take a stab at writing something that does match my experience of the film.

142.68.51.12 (talk) 19:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

The plot description is rather incomplete24.90.116.17 (talk) 03:03, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Poems in the film?

Some girl in my English II claims she wrote the poems used in the film , and her brother published them . She claims they were used because the "film was an indie." Is that bs.71.149.161.4 (talk) 12:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Behind the scenes"

I think this section should be removed from the article. It is clearly just a trivia section (see Wikipedia:Trivia sections), and it doesn't cite any sources. Jack324 (talk) 06:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, someone recently changed the name from "Trivia" to "Behind the scenes," probably trying to avoid it getting removed. If someone doesn't want it removed, most of the things can be cited to the commentary of the movie (of which I have listened to and most things in "Behind the scenes", I think, come from it). You can read this stuff on IMDb anyway, and as there's a link to it on this page, I agree that "behind the scenes" can be removed. --Zoton2 (talk) 14:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)