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A few sections where the language style could be improved


Consider : "the book is certainly of the UFO abductee genre"

>> although the book is definitely a UFO one and


Consider "with numerous contemporary scientific theories"

>> The book is in considerable disagreement with a lot of contemporary scientific theories


This sentence is perhaps too long and somehow clarity suffers as a result:

>> "The author makes it very clear that the book is not science fiction, and that the beings who had abducted him had chosen him for the specific reason that they had considered him capable of writing an accurate and objective report about his experience during the 9 days he would spent on Thiaoouba."


The words 'would spent' are mixing past and future tense. The repeated use of 'had' shows that we are speaking in past tence - as does the use of the word 'spent'. Hence the word 'would' is not appropriate here as it is in future tense.

>> the beings who had abducted him had chosen him for the specific reason that they had considered him capable of writing an accurate and objective report about his experience during the 9 days he *would* spent on Thiaoouba.


Needs revision. Consider rewording "big problems"

>> it is extremely harmful to the cultivation of the mind; something that is so necessary for spiritual development and solving our big problems


Consider: "The Thiaoouban's stress that our material knowledge which we take pride in (eg: science and technology) is in fact nothing compared to spiritual knowledge. That this material knowledge must be balanced by spiritual knowledge, just as one would not give advanced weaponry to a young child."

>> We are told that our technology, while amounting to something, is nothing in comparison to what genuinely spiritually developed people have and are capable of, technologically and spiritually.


Consider usage of 'psyche' rather than 'mental'? This would seem more in line with the terminology used in TP

>> In short, we are told that the spiritual (mental) evolution of the individual man


Didn't Thao warn of a 'spritiual and moral' cotastrophe?

>> if we are not to collapse in a *mental* and material catastrophe.


Accurate, although consider rewording for style and clarity. I prefer to use the word 'psyche' as this was used in the english version and I feel it somehow captures the intended meaning better. I have changed 'mind' to 'mental' here for reasons of grammar.

>> and through focussing on the *mental* aspect of human existence

> The words 'would spent' are mixing past and future tense. The repeated use of 'had' shows that we are speaking in >past tence - as does the use of the word 'spent'. Hence the word 'would' is not appropriate here as it is in future >tense. >>> the beings who had abducted him had chosen him for the specific reason that they had considered him capable of writing an accurate and objective report about his experience during the 9 days he *would* spent on Thiaoouba.

v: I have made a typo with "spent"."Would" is appropriate, as long as spent becomes "spend".
y: Yes, you are correct.. 'would spend' is fine :-). Ok, sorry for the long winded stuff about past/future tense it was just that I seemed to remember a similar error in an earlier version.

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[edit] Dr. Chalko

When I was undertaking my Mechanical Engineering degree at the University of Melbourne (1984-1987), Dr Chalko was my lecturer in dynamics. Even in those days he had some 'unusual' ideas, including a theory which unified electromagnetism and gravity. On occasion he would promise a spectacular demonstration once he had developed a device which utilized the theory. He has not worked at the university for some time now. I think this article is incorrect to refer to Chalko as a physicist, my recollection is that he has degrees in engineering from Poland.Logicman1966 13:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Facts and events needed to be verified

The text below (inserted in a table to retain contextual integrity) was placed in the article itself by several editors, in particular User:QTEng. I'm not sure what to do with it, by it certainly does not belong in the article as it presently reads. __meco (talk) 09:41, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

To avoid cluttering and diminished readability, please follow-up on issues mentioned in the discussions that are enclosed by the frame, below the frame.

[edit] Origin of men on Earth

According to Thao, the alien master from Thiaoouba, the first men on Earth came from the planet Bakaratini of the constellation Centaur precisely 1,350,000 years ago.

"Michel, 1 350 000 years ago precisely, on the planet Bakaratini of the constellation Centaur, a decision was made by the leaders of that planet, following numerous conferences and reconnaissance expeditions, to send inhabited vessels to the planets Mars and Earth."

So far, there is no evidence from mainstream science to support this claim.


  • but i have been able to find some text from an other ufo contactee that corroborate this fact:


...Kashendo spoke about the various races we have on Earth and said, "This is an intriguing subject but some of the mystery is known to the Confederation. We know that long before we first visited your planet, there were other visitors. When our ancient pioneers arrived there, they found evidence that whoever came before them must have come from systems far beyond those known to us. It is possible that they wished to colonize Earth. We do not know for certain whether this explains the many different races, but we do know that the race which you call the Red Indian, had ancestors who came from a far away planet doomed to destruction. They were highly civilized and had mastered space-travel. They left their home planet in a giant craft to search for new planets to colonize and reached Earth and there they settled. It seems that they were abandoned by their people or were unable to return home, possibly for lack of fuel. Their craft was stranded and so they remained on Earth. They were forced to improvise and learn to live off the land. They made use of what they had and what they could find. They hunted the animals; and learned to use them for food and sustenance."


"We know about these people, for they were very in­telligent as a race, and one of the early ones to occupy Earth. But what about the many other races you have? We can only assume that they too were space travellers for we have definitely found the remains of many craft be­neath your desert sands. Gigantic craft which are not from the Confederation! Should these remains be discov­ered, they would cause a sensation on Earth as they are of enormous proportions. They must have carried thou­sands of people.

"It is possible," he suggested, "that they never intended to return to their homes. Were they banished and perhaps sent away as punishment? We can only guess at the reason for their presence but the evidence of their arrival from other planets is there, beneath the sands. This may be one reason why there are so many different races on Earth. Some of them are very aggress­ive and very primitive even in this day and age. I won­der if they were banished from their home planets on account of their aggressive behavior? And is this the cause of the aggression which is still evident today?"

"When the Confederation carried out patrols beneath the surface of your oceans, they discovered many craft buried in the mud of the ocean floors. There is much ev­idence which will not be found soon, and much that has been lost. In another transmission I must tell you about the abandoned cities which lie beneath your Pacific Oc­ean; mysterious cities which must have been of great beauty before they disappeared. What catastrophe befell Earth? Who were the builders of these matchless cities?"

From the rare, incredible book

UFO CONTACT FROM PLANET KOLDAS

By Carl van Vlierden

and Wendelle C.Stevens

[edit] The continent of Mu

On this subject, in [2] page 87, Thao said: "As I already explained during our journey to Thiaoouba, the Bakaratinians arrived on Earth 1 350 000 years ago. Thirty thousand years later came the terrible cataclysm which gouged out seas and caused the emergence of islands and even continents. I made mention also, of an enormous continent which arose in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. This continent was called 'Lamar' but is better known to you as the continent of Mu. It emerged virtually in one piece, to be shattered 2000 years later, by seismic shock, into three principal continents."

In "The lost continent of Mu" [1] page 58, Colonel James Churchward described the continent of Mu as: "From various records it would seem that this continent consisted of three separate lands, but where or how these divisions were made by nature there is nothing to show, except, possibly, an Egyptian hieroglyphic which represents three long, narrow lands running east to west".

About the original people who first inhabited Mu, Thao ([2] page 88) said: "About 250 000 Earth years ago, the inhabitant of planet Aremo X3 embarked on an interplanetary voyage of exploration penetrating your solar system. ... They moved on, continuing their exploration of the planet. It turned out, that the continent of Mu had most appeal for them..."

In [1], page 129, James Churchward believes that the civilisation of Mu dates back to more than 50 000 years old. His arguments are based on the discoveries of three civilisations by William Niven, buried one beneath the other, with strata of sand, gravel and boulders between them.

On the sinking of Mu, which James Churchward [1, page 51] believes had happenned 15 000 years ago based on ancient records (Troano Manuscript,Greek Record,Lhasa Record), Thao took Michel into a psychosphere, so that Michel can witness himself the destruction of Mu about 14 500 years ago.

[edit] Egypt

  • The colonisation of Egypt:

In [1], page 113: "Lower Egypt was settled from the Motherland via Mayax and Atlantis..."

"The Upper Egyptians came to Egypt from the Motherland by way of Burma and India".

  • United Egypt:

In [1], page 112: "From the time of Menes, when Upper and Lower Egypt became one kingdom, down to about 2700 B.C., there were two religious cults in Egypt, known as the West cult and the East cult. The belief of Lower Egyptians was that the soul traveled west to reach the place reincarnation. The Upper Egyptians claimed that the soul must travel east to reach celestial paradise. Both cults claimed that the soul must travel back over the same road, to the place of reincarnation, by which their forefathers came to Egypt."

[edit] The Exodus

According to Thao ([2] page 139):

"Moses led the Hebrews from Egypt much as it is described in the Bible--but, before proceeding, I must rectify certain errors, since we know that many people on Earth are greatly interested in this famous Exodus. First of all, the Pharaoh at the time was Ramses II, who was successor to Seti I. Next, the Hebrews numbered 375 000 and, when they arrived at the Sea of Reeds, and not the Red Sea, our spaceships, numbering three, opened the waters, which were quite shallow, by means of our force field. We allowed the waters to close again, but not a single Egyptian soldier drowned..." ... "The Hebrew did not take forty years to reach Canaan, but only three and a half years. Lastly, the story on Mount Sinai is almost true."

[edit] About Jesus

Thao ([2] page 115):

"Jesus, Michel, was sent to Earth from Thiaoouba almost 2000 years ago..."

([2] page 143):

"I know that, on Earth, there are people who believe that, from the age of twelve, until his return to Judea, Jesus studied in the monasteries of India and Tibet. This is how they try to explain the gap which exists in the Bible, when Jesus, from Bethlehem, simply disappeared.

He left his parents's home at the age of fourteen, accompanied by his 12 year old brother Ouriki, he travelled to Burma, India, China and Japan. His brother accompanied Jesus everywhere, until Ouriki was accidentally killed in China. Jesus took a lock of Ouriki's hair with him, for he loved him very much.

Jesus was fifty years of age when he arrived in Japan, where he married and had three daughters. Finally, he died in the Japanese village of Shingo, where he had lived for forty-five years. He was buried in Shingo, which is on the main island of Japan - Honshū, and beside his tomb is another, containing the little box holding Ouriki's lock of hair.

Those of your fellows who like evidence can go to Shingo, formerly known as Herai, in the district of Ayomoru.

But let's go back to our precise mission in this regard ... The only messenger we could send to Earth had to be one of us. The 'Christ' who died on the cross in Jerusalem, was called Aarioc."

One of the few people to actually investigate this claim was Dr Tom Chalko, who physically traveled to Japan, Dr Chalko claims in 1935 Kiyomaro Takeuchi discovered 1900 year old document stored in Ibaraki Prefecture, Japan, containing evidence, that Jesus (Joshua) born in Bethlehem to Virgin Mary is buried in Herai Village in Aomori district of Japan, The document contained also Jesus's will, requesting that his brother's tomb to be located next to his. The document was so authentic and news so explosive at the time, that the Japanese government banned the document from public view and kept it locked in a museum in Tokyo. During World War II Tokyo was severely bombed and the museum with all documents was allegedly destroyed.apparently the Takeuchi family made copies of the document before surrendering it to officials. Copies preserved by the Takeuchi family survived to this day.

According to "Thiaoouba Prophecy", Jesus (Joshua) born to virgin Mary in Bethlehem, after an "angel" from Thiaoouba (tyehova) implanted the embryo, escaped the slaughter of 2606 babies and arrived in Egypt. After surprising all scholars at the age of 12, he left his parents at 14 to travel with his 12 years old brother Ouriki to Burma, India and China. Eventually he arrived in Japan at the age of 50. He got married there, and had 3 daughters. Finally he died in Herai where he had lived for 45 years.

...

[edit] The Naacal tablets

The Naacal tablets mentioned once by Thao in page 52 [2]: "On an ancient stone tablet, which I believe is Naacal, it is written: In the beginning there was nothing - all was darkness and silence. The Spirit - Superior Intelligence decided to create the worlds and he commanded to four superior forces...'

Col James Churchward in [1] wrote: "Nacaal tablets which I discovered in India many years ago, a large collection of stone tables, over 2500, recently discovered by William Niven in Mexico. Both sets have the same origin; for both sets are extract from the Sacred Inspired Writings of Mu. The Naacal tablets are written with the Naga symbols and characters--and, legend says, were written in the Motherland and first brought to Burma and then to India. Their extreme age is attested to by the fact that history says the Naacals left Burma more than 15000 years ago."