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You could go to the Cleanup Taskforce, but the articles are in fairly good shape. I'll go though them if I get the time. Hut 8.5 19:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I've done some work on that one. For a lot of things there is no hard-and-fast rule as to how the article should be written, so I've left a lot of the original text there. It would be good if you could provide an infobox for the article - see some other warship articles for examples. Hut 8.5 20:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Welcome to WP:Ships!

I noticed you joined WP:SHIPS today, and wanted to drop by and welcome you. Your new articles are looking nice. A small request per convention, for the ships which served in the US Navy: rather than the naval jack, we use the {{USN flag}}. The syntax is just {USN flag|year} with double curly braces. Also, a question: do you have some reason for starting the infoboxes after the intro to the article? It doesn't look bad to me, but it does look different from most ship articles; an awful lot of the Royal Navy articles don't even have an infobox, so I don't know if you were aware that infoboxes are usually the first thing in the article. Maralia 04:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Captain class frigates

Yes, that's the kind of thing I was talking about. Make sure you cite all sections thoroughly. The Wikipedia citation guidelines and the Military history WikiProject citation guidelines. Carom 15:26, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

It looks good now. If you want to go for a GA-Class which i believe you could in the future, you might want to read WP:LEAD. The lead section should summarise the whole article in about three paragraphs. You might need to tackle the number of redlinks as well. Well doen so far!! Woodym555 00:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, i noticed there were a few!! Good luck with them, i will add some stubs if i come across some pertinent information. Good luck with the article and if you need help don't hesitate to ask. Woodym555 00:28, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I would echo Woody's comments about the lead - you may also find it useful to have a thorough copyedit by another user when you have finished major text additions. Carom 01:13, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to the Military history WikiProject!

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[edit] Captain class / DE page

I'd suggest joining WP:Ships, that's the main wikiproject I associate with, and there's a lot of people both knowledgeable on the subject and in the finer points of Wikipedia etiquette, the Manual of Style etc. I'll have a wee squint at the article regarding your suggestions just now. Emoscopes Talk 22:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll have a wee look later when I get a chance. Lenton covers the D-day conversions in a separate section of the book (under Landing Ships rather than Frigates), which I've yet to get round to incorporating into the article. I'll see if there's anything additional that it can lend to the article. Emoscopes Talk 13:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
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...is hereby awarded to User:Thefrood for their herculean editing effort on the article Captain class frigate, by Emoscopes Talk


I noticed that you added Captain class frigate to the Review page, so I've taken a cursory look at it. It's quite an impressive article; the amount of information far exceeds most ships class articles I have seen. I would like to give it a full copyedit soon.

I thought I would go ahead and mention some recurrent issues I noticed in my brief read-through:

  • citations should come after the punctuation at the end of a sentence.
  • there are 3 builders listed in the infobox, yet 4 are mentioned in the article.
  • ship types (destroyer, corvette, submarine, etc) have been indiscriminately capitalized at times; I believe these should always be lower case.
  • in section titles, only the first word should be capitalized, aside from any proper names ('Royal Navy alterations' yes, 'Normandy Invasion' no).
  • in the U-boat sinkings table, 'lost' and 'survivors' have been inconsistently capitalized; they should be lower case.

My preference would be not to just clean up grammar, but to copyedit it with FA criteria in mind, as the content is certainly approaching that level. I know you are still working on it though, so let me know if/when you want me to dig in. Maralia 02:49, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I've just made a first pass at the History section. A couple things I wanted to mention:

  • Take a look at what I've done with the first paragraph, last couple sentences. My intent was to end that section with the 'half the cost' statement, as I felt that was where the emphasis should be, but I'm not entirely satisfied with how I've rearranged it. Let me know what you think; maybe you had a good reason for ending with the armament change.
  • I think the content about the return of the ships to the US after the war would perhaps be better placed in a separate section at the end, so as to chronologically follow after the tables describing their service to the UK. It might be worth a brief mention in the lead, also.

Moving on to the other sections now, if I can get the time while my son naps. Maralia 20:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

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