User talk:The strokes

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[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] Sage of Ice

Sage of Ice and I worked out our differences eleven days ago by staying cool and trying to find common ground. I'm sorry if I caused you stress in the past, but let's let bygones be bygones. I actually planned on apologizing to you, but I respected your wishes for me to not edit your user talk page. (If you still want a full apology, let me know - I had one all typed up and ready to go.) Maybe just try reading what I write in a happy voice. Really, I think I'm a pretty nice person, and I think we just got off on the wrong foot. I know I'm not perfect, but please don't go around trying to damage my reputation. My reputation on Wikipedia isn't worth all that much trouble, and I'm sure we'd both prefer if you could spend your time improving articles, instead of making comments about other editors. As I said to Sage of Ice, carry on with the good edits, and have a nice day. --Muéro(talk/c) 05:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Was it really only eleven days ago? Time has crawled far slower than I imagined.

As Muéro said though, Strokes, we came to terms with one another, so don't worry about it. It was never really much of an argument to begin with. I mean, neither of us had really done anything to the other, so it was just casual discourse between editors. I try to keep myself as neutral as possible when dealing with others here on Wikipedia. I do appreciate the fact that you were just trying to help me out, however, so thanks for the thought.

I'm no longer relevant, though, so now it's up to you and Muéro to get things sorted out amongst yourselves so no one has to clash in the future. Best of luck to both of you.

One thing perplexes me though... how were you, Strokes, brought to my talk page so randomly and... how did you, Muéro, become aware of Strokes's message so quickly without anyone mentioning it? Are you guys on each other's watchlists or am I the one under vigilance here? Either way, carry on... Sage of Ice 07:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Age in infoboxes

I just happened to see a hockey player page with the birth date and age formatting, and I thought it would be helpful to have the age listed. But, if infoboxes are for critical information only, you're absolutely right, it shouldn't be included. I really don't care if it's there or not, it was just the way I preferred it. Could you give me a link to where you found that infoboxes shouldn't include age, or are for critical information only? I won't bother arguing since it's not a big deal, but I would rather see the rationale so I can learn something new and become a better editor. Also, thanks for letting me know I should stop before I did any more. --Muéro(talk/c) 04:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I too would like to know where this is stated. Of course infoboxes can't contain just about anything, but I still don't see why age can't be included. After all, the height and weight of an athlete is usually given both according to the metric system and in US customary units and that's hardly critical either, since it's fairly easy to convert. Equally non-critical and redundant is the practise of having the nationality accompanied by a flagicon. --x-Flare-x{Talk) 03:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
The Date and age template is used in a lot of infoboxes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Birth_date_and_age. I believe it was probably for that the template was created. --claes 06:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What?

What are you talking about. Where do you come in? I see, I did make a mistake, but are you the IP or just a different user. I was going through and messed up. RedSkunktalk 19:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry... so here!

Sorry for mistakenly posting a vandalism template on your user talk page. RedSkunktalk
Sorry for mistakenly posting a vandalism template on your user talk page. RedSkunktalk

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[edit] Image:Rob schremp.jpg

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[edit] Re your comments

No need to be sorry, by all means. As for my gang analogy, I was being sarcastic to make a point; that point being that this is not about ganging up on you because they watch each other's back, it's about your unwillingness to accept the possibility that these two editors might just happen to see eye-to-eye without influencing each other through their need to conform. It's also about your unwillingness to accept that they might just happen to be correct. Instead, your comments suggest that their backing each other up is all part of an elaborate scheme to push their collective point across while disregarding their individual views.

Also, I don't deny that you have made some constructive edits in the past. My remark about you being on the disruptive side was meant to reflect your near past edits. This is my sentence from RG's talk page: You just happen to be on the disruptive side right now (emphasis added). So just like I can't deny that you've made constructive edits, you can't deny that you have been disruptive. I mean, you've even admitted to being disruptive in your own edit summaries. One particular instance states: "don't stop agitating me, I'll keep vandalizing your page Addhoc. This is my new username, and it's this for a reason". In addition, most, if not all, of your last 50 edits consists of vandalism on your part and/or feuding with Ccwaters, Addhoc, and RG to push your point across. Now how is that not being disruptive? — It's the very Wiki-definition of disruption.

Lastly, you may accuse RG of being immature for his comments, but making comments such as "I feel better about this disagreement knowing for sure that you're a ********; insinuating that RG is a hypocrite, labelling the three as Wikinazis; and resorting to vandalism when other editors disagree with you under the victimization ruse, neither reflects positively on *your* maturity level, nor does it lend credibility to your claim of endeavouring to reach amicable solutions. — Dorvaq (talk) 03:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't sound like this gang mentality is all in my head. He admits to keeping a lookout for his peeps from "idjits" (I can only assume he meant idiots, but didn't want to be accused of making a personal attack)
So let me get this straight; you're denouncing RG and Ccwaters for conforming to a anti-vandalism gang? Again, I'm not sure what your point is or what exactly you are trying to achieve.
I'm comfortable with how this reflects on my maturity level on wikipedia, because I (unlike some others) realize that this is a pretend world, where people easily manipulate who they really are; any "brownie points" I may accumulate by acting out of character don't mean squat in the grand scheme of things.
So why do you continue? Why are we still having this conversation if you care so little about this? Why have you persisted so much if it "don't mean squat in the grand scheme of things". You are trying to sway me into believing that you're the wiser and more mature by not caring about what others think of you, yet your actions betray your words, my friend. If you care so little about what others think of you in this "prentend world", then why were you so quick to rebut my comments on you being disruptive? Why was it so important for you to legitimize your actions? Again, why do you continue?
You know what however, you don't even need to answer as I could less. The whole point of my intrusion in your discussion with RG was to give you a friendly warning; being, that divulging RG and Ccwaters's not-so-secret, secret of protecting each other's pages against vandals or sharing many similar points of views in ongoing discussions isn't going to get you very far. One can only speculate that your subtle threat towards RG was meant to inform him you would be taking steps towards having disciplinary measures and/or sanctions imposed on him and possibly Ccwaters as well for their actions... it won't happen. You may be comfortable with how your disruption reflects on your maturity level, but I can tell you that if you continue at your current maturity level, you will not gain the support of those who have the power to impose such actions.
And, if it's not what you are attempting to do, then I'll ask you again; what *are* you trying to achieve? Are you trying to gain the sympathy and support of other disrupters living the same frustration *that they don't really care about* in order to better push your point across — are you actually telling me that you are trying to form a gang? Again, no need to answer.
Lastly, I'm sticking with my friendly warning and pulling out of this conversation. I'll allow you to have the last word, because I know you'll want to have it that way anyway seeing as you care so little about this. I wish you good luck with your endeavour, and please continue in your search for amicable solutions. You make the pretend society of Wikipedia proud. — Dorvaq (talk) 04:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CCwaters

I agree with you on your point about CCwaters, as he and his cronies have tried to gang up on me too. However, I have been able to counter them with civility and they rarely say anything to me unless I posted something erroneouly. Your incivility and rampant vandalism doesn't prove anything you wish to get across or that they are incorrect. It actually proves to them that they are.

JaMikePA 16:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

meh, I was bored (and tired of wikinazis). Even if it didn't prove anything, it served its purpose (to inform them that people know of their 'gang') The strokes 23:52, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I am sick of their bullshit. Giving each other awards for "diligence" is retarded. They have threatened me with reporting my supposed incivility, but they never even try. They hope to get me to write something over the top, but I stay right below the radar. That's how you get under their skin.

JaMikePA 05:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your username...

Might be inappropriate under WP:USERNAME unless you are really a member of The Strokes - you might want to think about changing it. exolon 18:49, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] My concern about your username

Hello, The strokes, and welcome to Wikipedia!

I hope not to seem unfriendly or make you feel unwelcome, but I noticed your username, and am concerned that it might not meet Wikipedia's username policy. After you look over that policy, could we discuss that concern here?

I'd appreciate learning your own views, for instance your reasons for wanting this particular name, and what alternative username you might accept that avoids raising this concern.

You have several options freely available to you:

Let me reassure you that my writing here means I don't think your username is grossly, blatantly, or obviously inappropriate; such names get reported straight to Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention or blocked on sight. This is more a case where opinions might differ, and it would be good to reach some consensus — either here or at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User names. So I look forward to a friendly discussion, and to enjoying your continued participation on Wikipedia. Thank you. BsroiaadnTalk 06:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:Infobox NHL Team Outline

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[edit] Template:Infobox Ice Hockey Player

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[edit] Personal attacks in edit summaries

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[edit] ovechkin goal

As per the above comment, there has been a move to delete the image. I strongly believe the image should stay-- I figured you should weigh in since you are the uploader.PStrait (talk) 01:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)